# Everyone complains about shotguns... **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 18, 2017, 1:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/everyone-complains-about-shotguns/259109 "2017-04-18T13:49:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SodiumChlorideiy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SodiumChlorideiy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SodiumChlorideiy)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 1:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/everyone-complains-about-shotguns/259109/1 "2017-04-18T13:49:00Z")
And talk about that’s all they see yet… Shotguns are the least used gun in the game. Gadgets get more kills than shotguns and have more time used. ---
**Author:** ![TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/teknocode/32/103723_2.png) [@TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TEKNOCODE)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 1:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/everyone-complains-about-shotguns/259109/2 "2017-04-18T13:54:00Z")
People cry about everything. There has been a crythread for every aspect of this game except for the grass. ---
**Author:** ![GoofyMC123](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/goofymc123/32/102091_2.png) [@GoofyMC123](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GoofyMC123)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 1:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/everyone-complains-about-shotguns/259109/3 "2017-04-18T13:55:00Z")
> [@TEKNOCODE](#): > > People cry about everything. There has been a crythread for everything in this game except for the grass. That damn grass keeps killing me… wish Dice would nerf it ---
**Author:** ![TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/teknocode/32/103723_2.png) [@TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TEKNOCODE)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 1:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/everyone-complains-about-shotguns/259109/4 "2017-04-18T13:58:00Z")
> [@GoofyMC123](#): > > > [@TEKNOCODE](#): > > > > People cry about everything. There has been a crythread for everything in this game except for the grass. > > That damn grass keeps killing me… wish Dice would nerf it I stand corrected. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![OrionPherrit](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/orionpherrit/32/103042_2.png) [@OrionPherrit](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/OrionPherrit)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 2:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/everyone-complains-about-shotguns/259109/5 "2017-04-18T14:09:00Z")
What I don’t understand is why Symthic publishes such high figures for shotgun TTK. How are they basing this determination? ---
**Author:** ![lh20122012](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lh20122012/32/102637_2.png) [@lh20122012](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/lh20122012)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 2:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/everyone-complains-about-shotguns/259109/6 "2017-04-18T14:10:00Z")
This has to be the whinniest \*\*\* community I’ve ever been part of. There’s nothing they can’t make a cry thread about. I keep coming back for those few posters who share creative ideas and clever tactics. But more and more they just get drowned in a sea of tears from lazy players. ---
**Author:** ![hawcer](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hawcer/32/102178_2.png) [@hawcer](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/hawcer)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 2:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/everyone-complains-about-shotguns/259109/7 "2017-04-18T14:11:00Z")
the grass sucks…it impairs my vision all the time. Hasn’t dice ever heard of the “chain link fence” phenomenon? If you focus past it, it disappears. Since i’m on stupid things no one complains about…the foggy/misty eyeballs have to go. Since when do your eyes fog/mist over when it’s raining? Since this game, that’s when…it’s like we are wearing face shields or something,lol anyway…shotguns are only as good as it’s user. ---
**Author:** ![Sabotoeur](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Sabotoeur](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sabotoeur)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 2:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/everyone-complains-about-shotguns/259109/8 "2017-04-18T14:14:00Z")
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**Author:** ![DaMutha1](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/damutha1/32/101615_2.png) [@DaMutha1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DaMutha1)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 2:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/everyone-complains-about-shotguns/259109/9 "2017-04-18T14:41:00Z")
> [@lh20122012](#): > > This has to be the whinniest \*\*\* community I’ve ever been part of. cuz horses ---
**Author:** ![Sixclicks](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sixclicks/32/103500_2.png) [@Sixclicks](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sixclicks)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 2:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/everyone-complains-about-shotguns/259109/10 "2017-04-18T14:42:00Z")
The majority of complaints about shotguns come from players of the smaller game modes like Domination and TDM where shotguns are around pretty much every corner. The TDM and Domination communities are small relative to the whole playerbase, hence while many of the kills in TDM and Dom seem to be from shotguns, it has little impact on the overall usage stats. Shotguns in TDM and Dom are basically an easy win button. ---
**Author:** ![sas-assaultz](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/0ea827/32.png) [@sas-assaultz](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/sas-assaultz)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 2:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/everyone-complains-about-shotguns/259109/11 "2017-04-18T14:45:00Z")
Shotguns are fine, they should kill you one hit at close same as snipers can kill one hit from far, it’s annoying yes but tough ---
**Author:** ![SodiumChlorideiy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SodiumChlorideiy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SodiumChlorideiy)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 4:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/everyone-complains-about-shotguns/259109/12 "2017-04-18T16:02:00Z")
> [@Exequtoer](#): > > > [@SodiumChlorideiy](#): > > > > And talk about that’s all they see yet… > > > > > > Shotguns are the least used gun in the game. > > Gadgets get more kills than shotguns and have more time used. > > Then again we have only 2 infantry maps and probably people who complain are playing mostly on them. I’ve never seen somebody using A10h on Synai, but usualy there are at least 15-20 players on both sides using it on Fort de Vaux or Argonne Forest. Maybe on consoles it doesn’t make any diffrence, but on PC people actually have to aim, so using anything else than shotgun or automatico is rather trying to be a better player and working on your skills. Shotgun is all about positioning, nothing else. Once you master it, there is not much you can improve. Same playstyle over and over again. Maybe adding larger and more varied infantry maps would solve this issue. I use shotgun on weird maps, just like a few people I know. Im the type that would use a m97 sweeper on sossoin and use an MH or a 10x g98 sniper on fort de vuax though. ---
**Author:** ![Gforce81](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/gforce81/32/100952_2.png) [@Gforce81](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Gforce81)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/everyone-complains-about-shotguns/259109/13 "2017-04-18T16:41:00Z")
I really haven’t seen that many shotguns except for the maps you’d expect to see them on for a long while now. After the 10-A Hunter was “adjusted”, I really don’t see too many of them. Like @SodiumChlorideiy I’m the guy running the Sjorgen on Sinai. Absolutely love shotguns. Favorite weapon category in every FPS I’ve ever played. Honestly, I’m having a hard time returning to any of them after using the 10-A SLUG for so long. I used to have a real great judge of how far distances are; when to fire, when to stealthily approach. Was trying to work my way up the 12g leaderboards for a while. Now I keep thinking I can get away with shots that are further than I expect, and get awful damage in return. The Slug is just sooo good, its hard to put it down in favor of anything that uses buckshot ---
**Author:** ![MAGNUM\_MU5TACHE](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/magnum_mu5tache/32/101043_2.png) [@MAGNUM\_MU5TACHE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MAGNUM_MU5TACHE)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 4:47pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/everyone-complains-about-shotguns/259109/14 "2017-04-18T16:47:00Z")
Shotgun is cheap regardless of the amount of people that use it. Can we see a graph for gun type usage on Argonne forest only? That’s where the shotgun noobs use their choob gun. ---
**Author:** ![SodiumChlorideiy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SodiumChlorideiy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SodiumChlorideiy)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 4:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/everyone-complains-about-shotguns/259109/15 "2017-04-18T16:51:00Z")
> [@MAGNUM\_MU5TACHE](#): > > Shotgun is cheap regardless of the amount of people that use it. Can we see a graph for gun type usage on Argonne forest only? That’s where the shotgun noobs use their choob gun. I shall repeat what I’ve said a billion times… The only gun I am allowed to use on assault is the MP18 by the logic of others. SHotguns are not cheap, in fact if you aren’t a bad player you can beat them out in 99% of gun fights. A slight suppression on them and they become unusable RNG cannons of self hatred. > [@Gforce81](#): > > I really haven’t seen that many shotguns except for the maps you’d expect to see them on for a long while now. After the 10-A Hunter was “adjusted”, I really don’t see too many of them. Like @SodiumChlorideiy I’m the guy running the Sjorgen on Sinai. > > Absolutely love shotguns. Favorite weapon category in every FPS I’ve ever played. > > Honestly, I’m having a hard time returning to any of them after using the 10-A SLUG for so long. I used to have a real great judge of how far distances are; when to fire, when to stealthily approach. Was trying to work my way up the 12g leaderboards for a while. > > Now I keep thinking I can get away with shots that are further than I expect, and get awful damage in return. > > The Slug is just sooo good, its hard to put it down in favor of anything that uses buckshot Cool bro, you have to use OP guns to get kills. ---
**Author:** ![cammoses003](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/cammoses003/32/101449_2.png) [@cammoses003](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/cammoses003)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 5:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/everyone-complains-about-shotguns/259109/16 "2017-04-18T17:26:00Z")
people hate on shotguns more than rifles and that fact alone makes me LOL ---
**Author:** ![TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/teknocode/32/103723_2.png) [@TEKNOCODE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TEKNOCODE)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 5:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/everyone-complains-about-shotguns/259109/17 "2017-04-18T17:27:00Z")
> [@cammoses003](#): > > people hate on shotguns more than rifles and that fact alone makes me LOL I started using shotguns after I noticed the amount of cry threads about them. My character carries a box of tissues. ---
**Author:** ![SodiumChlorideiy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SodiumChlorideiy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SodiumChlorideiy)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 5:29pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/everyone-complains-about-shotguns/259109/18 "2017-04-18T17:29:00Z")
And now we can see, shotguns are literally the least used, and gets the least kills out of all primaries. ---
**Author:** ![cammoses003](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/cammoses003/32/101449_2.png) [@cammoses003](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/cammoses003)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 5:29pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/everyone-complains-about-shotguns/259109/19 "2017-04-18T17:29:00Z")
> [@TEKNOCODE](#): > > > [@cammoses003](#): > > > > people hate on shotguns more than rifles and that fact alone makes me LOL > > I started using shotguns after I noticed the amount of cry threads about them. My character carries a box of tissues. same, I always used them a little here and there, but after all these threads and hatemail I get in-game it’s only encouraged me to use them more - shotgun tears are the best. especially on big open maps ---
**Author:** ![SodiumChlorideiy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SodiumChlorideiy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SodiumChlorideiy)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/everyone-complains-about-shotguns/259109/20 "2017-04-18T17:31:00Z")
> [@cammoses003](#): > > > [@TEKNOCODE](#): > > > > > [@cammoses003](#): > > > > > > people hate on shotguns more than rifles and that fact alone makes me LOL > > > > I started using shotguns after I noticed the amount of cry threads about them. My character carries a box of tissues. > > same, I always used them a little here and there, but after all these threads and hatemail I get in-game it’s only encouraged me to use them more - shotgun tears are the best. especially on big open maps WHat I think is funny is that the people who use them all the time tend to like to grief the most. [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/everyone-complains-about-shotguns/259109.md?page=2)