# Firestorm Rotations Update - So long and thanks for all the Duo! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 9, 2019, 10:32am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/firestorm-rotations-update-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-duo/106919 "2019-05-09T10:32:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Butcher517](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/46a35a/32.png) [@Butcher517](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Butcher517)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 7:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/firestorm-rotations-update-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-duo/106919/41 "2019-05-09T19:31:00Z")
I paid for the deluxe edition of this game and so did my wife. One of the reasons was duos firestorm as advertised. One of my biggest reasons for being angry is there was no notification that this was going to happen. Also, to your point of not wanting fans to be irritated because they have to wait 5-8 minutes to play…my wife and I would rather wait ten(which never happened) and actually get to play the game mode we want to play. ---
**Author:** ![meh20382](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/bc79bd/32.png) [@meh20382](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/meh20382)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/firestorm-rotations-update-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-duo/106919/42 "2019-05-09T19:32:00Z")
> [@Braddock512](#): > > Butcher517 said: > This is bull crap. Y’all are some liars. “We’ll bring it back permanently. > We said it would come back “indefinitely”, as in there was no set time limit, but we would continue to analyze data - such as trends, peak/persistent simultaneous players, etc. > We don’t ever take these kinds of decisions lightly, contrary to popular belief, but the overall experience suffered when we had too many modes for folks to choose from in Firestorm. > > Does this mean Duo is done forever? No. Special events, special weekends, etc. can still drive it coming back. > What it does mean is that because folks play Solo & Squads more, the third option always available reduced matchmaking pools and increased matchmaking times. We don’t want anyone to have to wait 5-8 minutes to matchmaking into Firestorm. > > As we move through the next few weeks/months, we’ll continue to analyze more data and continue to refine how we handle modes and player engagement opportunities. > > -Braddock512- Well you’ll have at least two less players playing Firestorm. It may not be much in the grand scheme of things but the player counts must be abysmal if your thought process is “Duo’s is here to stay” to “duos isn’t played that much it’s gone.” Maybe this game is dying. So make it die faster with less choice and content. Brilliant. ---
**Author:** ![TrickyChandelier](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@TrickyChandelier](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TrickyChandelier)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/firestorm-rotations-update-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-duo/106919/43 "2019-05-09T19:39:00Z")
- This i\*\*s one big joke. Duo is a mode that is the only choice for a part of players. Why should I play against a friend against four players, this is not cool. The additional mode does not cost and allows you to choose what suits you best. I never had a problem to wait after 20 minutes until there is free space on the server. together with zyjjomym we did not see a problem to wait 5 minutes for the game. And you took it without asking for a sentence. Why do you do something against players? Every creator without a recipient will be lost. ---
**Author:** ![Skitelz7](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/skitelz7/32/103511_2.png) [@Skitelz7](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Skitelz7)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 7:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/firestorm-rotations-update-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-duo/106919/44 "2019-05-09T19:42:00Z")
It’s not that people aren’t playing duos. Seems like people aren’t playing Firestorm in general. ---
**Author:** ![LEXXZAN](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/91b2a8/32.png) [@LEXXZAN](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LEXXZAN)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/firestorm-rotations-update-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-duo/106919/45 "2019-05-09T19:46:00Z")
> [@Braddock512](#): > > Butcher517 said: > This is bull crap. Y’all are some liars. “We’ll bring it back permanently. > We said it would come back “indefinitely”, as in there was no set time limit, but we would continue to analyze data - such as trends, peak/persistent simultaneous players, etc. > We don’t ever take these kinds of decisions lightly, contrary to popular belief, but the overall experience suffered when we had too many modes for folks to choose from in Firestorm. > > Does this mean Duo is done forever? No. Special events, special weekends, etc. can still drive it coming back. > What it does mean is that because folks play Solo & Squads more, the third option always available reduced matchmaking pools and increased matchmaking times. We don’t want anyone to have to wait 5-8 minutes to matchmaking into Firestorm. > > As we move through the next few weeks/months, we’ll continue to analyze more data and continue to refine how we handle modes and player engagement opportunities. > > -Braddock512- I had no problem finding duo games on the afternoon. Always got straight into games. Why have ‘‘special weekends etc’’? Just make it permanent like you guys promised us after the voting you guys made. Don’t see the point of removing it. ‘’ the third option always available reduced matchmaking pools and increased matchmaking times’’ I don’t buy that. I got straight into Duo games, so it shouldn’t be any problem to get into games fast in Solo or Squads if this is so much more popular like you say. Please listen to the community and bring back Duo’s and fix your lobby countdown while you’re on it. Counting down from 60 sec when lobby is full is a waste of time. ---
**Author:** ![EpicNoodleNL](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EpicNoodleNL](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/EpicNoodleNL)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/firestorm-rotations-update-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-duo/106919/46 "2019-05-09T19:54:00Z")
> [@Braddock512](#): > > Butcher517 said: > This is bull crap. Y’all are some liars. “We’ll bring it back permanently. > We said it would come back “indefinitely”, as in there was no set time limit, but we would continue to analyze data - such as trends, peak/persistent simultaneous players, etc. > We don’t ever take these kinds of decisions lightly, contrary to popular belief, but the overall experience suffered when we had too many modes for folks to choose from in Firestorm. > > Does this mean Duo is done forever? No. Special events, special weekends, etc. can still drive it coming back. > What it does mean is that because folks play Solo & Squads more, the third option always available reduced matchmaking pools and increased matchmaking times. We don’t want anyone to have to wait 5-8 minutes to matchmaking into Firestorm. > > As we move through the next few weeks/months, we’ll continue to analyze more data and continue to refine how we handle modes and player engagement opportunities. > > -Braddock512- but why do you have to wait for 6 min to get into a Quad game mode and when i wanted to play duo with my buddy it only took 2 min? That isn’t because there are not enough players in the duo game mode. Every other Battle Royale game had Duo mode and the only game that says it doesn’t work is BFV? And you say the experience suffered. Is there a treat on the forum I don’t know about? Does the community say that the experience suffured or was it a group of guys or girls in your office that made that statement? ---
**Author:** ![kywildcatsxxx](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/df788c/32.png) [@kywildcatsxxx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/kywildcatsxxx)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 8:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/firestorm-rotations-update-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-duo/106919/47 "2019-05-09T20:11:00Z")
I dont get why they don’t take of the solo mode for this game. The staple of battlefield has always been teamwork, teamwork n teamwork. Dont make any sense to get rid of duos instead of solos. Do any of y’all even play solo mode on here? Storm camp galore smh ---
**Author:** ![MackieStevens](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@MackieStevens](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MackieStevens)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/firestorm-rotations-update-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-duo/106919/48 "2019-05-09T20:21:00Z")
> [@Braddock512](#): > > Butcher517 said: > This is bull crap. Y’all are some liars. “We’ll bring it back permanently. > We said it would come back “indefinitely”, as in there was no set time limit, but we would continue to analyze data - such as trends, peak/persistent simultaneous players, etc. > We don’t ever take these kinds of decisions lightly, contrary to popular belief, but the overall experience suffered when we had too many modes for folks to choose from in Firestorm. > > Does this mean Duo is done forever? No. Special events, special weekends, etc. can still drive it coming back. > What it does mean is that because folks play Solo & Squads more, the third option always available reduced matchmaking pools and increased matchmaking times. We don’t want anyone to have to wait 5-8 minutes to matchmaking into Firestorm. > > As we move through the next few weeks/months, we’ll continue to analyze more data and continue to refine how we handle modes and player engagement opportunities. > > -Braddock512- I have a better idea, just fix the low hanging fruit that is driving players away from the game. Get rid of the lobby, fix looting, add more weapons occasionally etc etc. You’re not addressing the “real” problem by removing this segmentation in hopes to get matchmaking times down. The root issues are still there…just fix them and your player counts will go up and inversely proportional to that, you’re matchmaking times will go down. This just shows how mis-managed this whole game has been from the reveal trailer to today. It is appalling to me how poorly everything has been executed with BFV. This latest move (removing duos) is just an example of pure laziness…it’s easier to remove that segmentation so that the 400 people who play this now only have two options rather than to actually spend some time and effort to fix what’s broken and increase from 400 to 1000. Shame on you, shame on you all. What saddens me the most is you guys just don’t learn, you keep making horrendous decisions after horrendous decisions. ---
**Author:** ![Skitelz7](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/skitelz7/32/103511_2.png) [@Skitelz7](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Skitelz7)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 8:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/firestorm-rotations-update-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-duo/106919/49 "2019-05-09T20:50:00Z")
> [@kywildcatsxxx](#): > > I dont get why they don’t take of the solo mode for this game. The staple of battlefield has always been teamwork, teamwork n teamwork. Dont make any sense to get rid of duos instead of solos. Do any of y’all even play solo mode on here? Storm camp galore smh I do. It’s my prefered mode. Don’t have to rely on anyone. Actually won a match yesterday: [![Video: Firestorm Solo Win](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/8/a/8a135144954dd6ff370fe4f46d3ca1afc2f06531.jpeg "Firestorm Solo Win") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St4UIqPhoqY) ---
**Author:** ![Wimston](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/wimston/32/107313_2.png) [@Wimston](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Wimston)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 9:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/firestorm-rotations-update-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-duo/106919/50 "2019-05-09T21:07:00Z")
> [@](#): > > hello I do not know what you think but in the battlefield community NO. > > - Now we understand why every time they are less in this community, due to your mistakes … ERROR + ERROR + ERROR > > (IN THE COMMUNITY WE WANT BATTLEFIELD MODE DUO, FOREVER) > > NOT TO ACTIVATE MODE DUO, NEVER PURCHASE A BATTLEFIELD AND … We are many, more than you imagine, who think the same. > > **YOU SHOULD KNOW MORE ABOUT PEOPLE AND LISTEN MORE TO THE COMMUNITY, DO NOT TAKE US MORE THE HAIR … AS ALWAYS** > > -I hope that with this I will recap you that the money is put by the community, we are the client and the one who pays the games, and the money makes you > > keep working … DUO MODE ACTIVATED NOW, and stop reraising us.A GREETING . ---
**Author:** ![EpicNoodleNL](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EpicNoodleNL](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/EpicNoodleNL)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 9:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/firestorm-rotations-update-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-duo/106919/51 "2019-05-09T21:07:00Z")
> [@Braddock512](#): > > Butcher517 said: > This is bull crap. Y’all are some liars. “We’ll bring it back permanently. > We said it would come back “indefinitely”, as in there was no set time limit, but we would continue to analyze data - such as trends, peak/persistent simultaneous players, etc. > We don’t ever take these kinds of decisions lightly, contrary to popular belief, but the overall experience suffered when we had too many modes for folks to choose from in Firestorm. > > Does this mean Duo is done forever? No. Special events, special weekends, etc. can still drive it coming back. > What it does mean is that because folks play Solo & Squads more, the third option always available reduced matchmaking pools and increased matchmaking times. We don’t want anyone to have to wait 5-8 minutes to matchmaking into Firestorm. > > As we move through the next few weeks/months, we’ll continue to analyze more data and continue to refine how we handle modes and player engagement opportunities. > > -Braddock512- but why do you have to wait for 6 min to get into a quad game mode and when i wanted to play duo with my buddy it only took 2 min? That isn’t because there are not enough players in the duo game mode, but there are in the quad game mode. Every other battle royale game has Duo on their mode select and the only game it doesn’t work is on BFV? ---
**Author:** ![Bozman123](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/a587f6/32.png) [@Bozman123](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Bozman123)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 9:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/firestorm-rotations-update-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-duo/106919/52 "2019-05-09T21:26:00Z")
> [@](#): > > spot on > This basically tells you how small the player base is honestly ---
**Author:** ![killacre](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@killacre](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/killacre)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 9:43pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/firestorm-rotations-update-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-duo/106919/53 "2019-05-09T21:43:00Z")
This is the most stupid thing I´ve heard. Bye bye firestorm. ---
**Author:** ![DjYose26](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DjYose26](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DjYose26)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/firestorm-rotations-update-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-duo/106919/54 "2019-05-09T21:44:00Z")
Its a mistake again, put duos please, listen to the comunity and dont do those bad things in the game, it was ok whith duos, now , matchmaking takes so long… ---
**Author:** ![krliathbirdeate](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/3ab097/32.png) [@krliathbirdeate](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/krliathbirdeate)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/firestorm-rotations-update-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-duo/106919/55 "2019-05-09T21:53:00Z")
stop touching the game like this game should go back development stage and stop selling ---
**Author:** ![Kowa1czyk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kowa1czyk/32/106122_2.png) [@Kowa1czyk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kowa1czyk)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 9:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/firestorm-rotations-update-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-duo/106919/56 "2019-05-09T21:57:00Z")
I don’t usually leave forum posts, but the decision to remove duos from Firestorm is goddamn . I, like many consumers, bought this game specifically to play with a friend on duos mode. We played the game hard for the last week and enjoyed getting back into gaming. For once, DICE did something great - but now that has been removed and for what reason? We tried squads before and didn’t enjoy it, we found that players either did their own thing, didn’t have a microphone or didn’t speak English, so we will certainly not be playing squads. Due to this, we refuse to play the game and have both uninstalled it. We will most definitely be demanding a refund. Let’s see if the analytical team pick up a decrease in traffic over the next few days. Great job DICE. You’ve it up once again. ---
**Author:** ![YourLocalPlumber](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/yourlocalplumber/32/103277_2.png) [@YourLocalPlumber](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/YourLocalPlumber)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 9:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/firestorm-rotations-update-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-duo/106919/57 "2019-05-09T21:58:00Z")
Lol. I’ve played ALOT of Duo Firestorm with a friend. We never had an issue finding a game in EU. It took us 1-2 minutes MAX to find the game, usually it took less than a minute. Obviously it took longer if we played at night, but even then we found matches within 5 minutes. Its just ridiculous, there was no warning, no notification or anything. You just removed it. We were planning on Playing a lot of Firestorm during our 4 days off work now, but here comes the surprise, we log in today and there is no Duo option. Thanks Dice. Playing in a squad with less than 3 pre-made is useless because 2 blueberries usually go about their day and die instantly. And winning 2v4 is near impossible. Jut another confirmation that listening to the community is the last thing you do. ---
**Author:** ![Bl4d3runn3r](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bl4d3runn3r/32/112746_2.png) [@Bl4d3runn3r](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Bl4d3runn3r)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 10:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/firestorm-rotations-update-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-duo/106919/58 "2019-05-09T22:00:00Z")
LOL, what are you doing to this game? I payed money for this and I want to play effin Duo mode. Limited time? Are you kidding me? Bring back the mode or this was the last EA game i will ever buy ---
**Author:** ![dazworld](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@dazworld](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/dazworld)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 10:43pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/firestorm-rotations-update-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-duo/106919/59 "2019-05-09T22:43:00Z")
Nooooooooo. Please bring duo back. Duo is perfect for me and another player, but usually my usual playing buddy. The two of us in harmony … until first contact that is with other players then we usually die lol. Please bring it back. BIG BF fan here. ---
**Author:** ![nikolavik](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/d26b3c/32.png) [@nikolavik](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/nikolavik)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 11:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/firestorm-rotations-update-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-duo/106919/60 "2019-05-09T23:04:00Z")
So this realy means FIRESTORM is going to be dead soon. Dice just pay to streamers to make Firestorm more popular and your matchmaking time will be reduce to less than min! I was playing most DUOS and SOLO. Bring back DUOS or RIP Firestorm. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/firestorm-rotations-update-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-duo/106919.md?page=2) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/firestorm-rotations-update-so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-duo/106919.md?page=4)