Anyway for be fair, Tanks should be like this:
two machine gunners half exposed on the top, covered by an iron shield, with unlimited ammo but no IRNV. (maybe one as a spotter for airplanes.
the cannon should be exclusively for fighting other veichles and denying infantry coverages… with limited ammo, but able to use IRNV… and should explode after 2 RPG hit…
simple, because I take yours seriously even if they maybe wrong
and if you’re wanting to criticize him for saying that IRNV and FLIR take no skill why not mention the skill it takes for killing a tank, or a LAV or any vehicle at all?
Please show me one post where I have made a wild emotional exaggeration. You take me seriously because I am capable of having a reasonable discussion.
You are clearly not following the conversation. I am not criticising him for saying IRNV takes no skill. Please show me where I have done that.
I have also already mentioned the skill needed from both sides.
Stop tagging me if you are going to continue to put words in my mouth that I didn’t say. This is tedious enough already.
I upvoted this because of the fact we should be taking them seriously. but also I do too but you can’t have a really fun game if you don’t add in some unrealistic traits or mechanics to the game, but all traits and mechanics should be talked about if they cause a lot of trouble for the player.
true; but we need to understand that if we wanted realism we would join the military. so some unrealistic things need to be added to ensure for the most fun for all players.
your right and I never meant to and I’m sorry, but you keep saying that if someone posts something that is hard to understand or something that you just find stupid you think they shouldn’t be taken seriously. Which I don’t think that’s okay, but I am off topic.
Yes but its already enough unrealistic…
but IRNV in general its not unrealistic, its a real equipment, its just the fact that there are a tons of sights in game but the most of the players use the IRNV… there is no variety… like some equipment are totally forgotten cause this playstyle… All equipments should be different for different playstyles but seems that everyone is playing the same style… should not exist a “better weapon” but a weapon that is better for your playstyle… but if u see how peoples are playing now seems like they are blind and they need a “warm help”… it’s inflated!
I would have thought that it was quite well-known by now that the Mines and C4 and other Goodies that we haul out of our magical backpacks will have and hold our own body-heat within them quite well and for surprisingly lengthy periods of time demanding that we deliberate their deployment decidedly to deter detection by devices like Thermals , but I could be wrong on this . . .
. . . still , I Hide Mine 
I agree to a point, ever one has a different play style and it should be supported, just like every play style has its consequences
IRNV and FLIR have no consequences.
where did you get your information from?
@tempo_rarity
I would like to see that forum or document.
So you’re resorting to lies now? I just gave you two counters to IRNV less than half an hour ago.
Yes you right…
But when you see that all peoples are playing a too similar playstyle probably something is going wrong… because some equipments are not supposed to be forgotten… just watch how tanks are equipped… all the same… who still use the zoom optics? none…
no, you know well enough that smokes and flares don’t make a difference against any and all vehicles that have abilities
of FLIR and IRNV. and you even said that you don’t use them because you said you don’t need them. They don’t slow down tanks, they don’t prevent any vehicles from going through no fear to give from either smokes and flares.
so what equipment are forgotten?
There are not real counters for IRNV…
Like i said that not easily accessible white camo, its not the answer… the game is not balanced for that..
Are you incapable of forming an argument without twisting words?
Smoke will completely block thermal vision. I know this because I experience it regularly.
I said I don’t use the counters often because I can get the job done without needing to resort to smoke of flares.
Your post is 100% misinformation.
that’s not what he’s talking about, he’s talking about smokes and flares and their inabilities to do anything to stop or slow down the tanks.
Again. Not true. Are you doing this on purpose?
I’m talking about how smoke and flares ARE capable of slowing down tanks.
A lot of rifles that are not stable enough with IRNV equipped for example…
Or the zoom sight for tanks as i said…
If i go to check i can do a big list of equipment forgotten…
Also the camouflages… all the peoples that have unlocked the dice camo now are wearing it… maybe its a fashion for look clean during battles… i cant explain..