# Flying a helicopter got ridiculous. Potential fix. **URL:** \ **Category:** PC\ **Created:** [November 29, 2013, 9:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/flying-a-helicopter-got-ridiculous-potential-fix/152305 "2013-11-29T21:11:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![DerFetteDetlef](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/8797f3/32.png) [@DerFetteDetlef](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DerFetteDetlef)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 6:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/flying-a-helicopter-got-ridiculous-potential-fix/152305/241 "2013-12-01T18:51:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _Re1iK said:_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _bcboy1962 said:_ > > This is BF 4…deal! > > So says the guy who can’t fly. I bet you really hate that you can’t don’t you. Burns you up when you get killed by aircraft huh?? lol 1. I’d like to talk to the person who created the original thread on that website first before I link anything in here, no matter you posted it in battlelog or not, sorry. 2. Please dont turn this into bashing people who don’t like choppers, only countering trolls with polite soberness will put you ahead of them, don’t lower yourself to their layer. Still thanks for the important informational material you delivered here. ---
**Author:** ![ConfigM](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@ConfigM](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ConfigM)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 6:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/flying-a-helicopter-got-ridiculous-potential-fix/152305/242 "2013-12-01T18:53:00Z")
no one, and i mean no one likes heliwhores. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![G-Gnu](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/g-gnu/32/102029_2.png) [@G-Gnu](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/G-Gnu)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 6:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/flying-a-helicopter-got-ridiculous-potential-fix/152305/243 "2013-12-01T18:54:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _SilverRook said:_ > dear OP stop flying your helicopter so freaking high making you a sitting duck for these things. > > you serve no purpose being that high only to shoot other helos and jets … which is stupid. > > hug the terrain where possible, use the buildings for cover. > > i have no problems flying attack helos. > > i have a problem with gunners or pilots(when i’m gunning) pilots wont pause to let me lock on with laser guided or cannon. they insist on swooping attacks with their rockets completely forgetting they have a gunner onboard we cant hit shit when you fly like that. and gunners that just use you as a taxi. grrrr > > maintain distance between you and your target - let your gunner do most of the work and pick off the tanks with zuni rockets. > switch to heatseekers when you need to fight off other helos etc … > > but dont try and take on jets. > > top tip if you keep getting rammed too or your dogfighting and the enemy helo insists on getting his cockpit glass to merge with your own… > > before you take off strap some slam mines to you chopper then next time you get rammed you just get YOU WERE KILLED… but you also get the kill as they ram into you. > > this slam technique works on all vehicles too… nice way to take out pesky attack boats or mobile AA. May i ask what maps you have played the AH on ??? Going low at for example Golmud will certainly get you killed/flipped by a Tank, and there is no Below Radar in this game, so going low will not get you any advantage more then maybe some small building to try to take cover behind. ---
**Author:** ![DerFetteDetlef](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/8797f3/32.png) [@DerFetteDetlef](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DerFetteDetlef)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 6:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/flying-a-helicopter-got-ridiculous-potential-fix/152305/244 "2013-12-01T18:56:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _BatmanOfIndia said:_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _SilverRook said:_ > > dear OP stop flying your helicopter so freaking high making you a sitting duck for these things. > > > > you serve no purpose being that high only to shoot other helos and jets … which is stupid. > > > > hug the terrain where possible, use the buildings for cover. > > > > i have no problems flying attack helos. > > > > i have a problem with gunners or pilots(when i’m gunning) pilots wont pause to let me lock on with laser guided or cannon. they insist on swooping attacks with their rockets completely forgetting they have a gunner onboard we cant hit shit when you fly like that. > > > > maintain distance between you and your target - let your gunner do most of the work and pick off the tanks with zuni rockets. > > switch to heatseekers when you need to fight off other helos etc … > > > > but dont try and take on jets. > > > > top tip if you keep getting rammed too or your dogfighting and the enemy helo insists on getting his cockpit glass to merge with your own… > > > > before you take off strap some slam mines to you chopper then next time you get rammed you just get YOU WERE KILLED… but you also get the kill as they ram into you. > > > > this slam technique works on all vehicles too… nice way to take out pesky attack boats or mobile AA. > > You have one hour of flying time. That’s like reviewing a highly complex product he has used for a short peroid of time. Makes no sense whatsoever. If I could, I’d just flag this for spam. I mentioned earlier that I’m a skilled pilot, not gonna go in detail anymore. Even flying with random people in a pub makes him seem like a total beginner for most helicopter pilots who know their stuff. ---
**Author:** ![RE1IK](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/3bc359/32.png) [@RE1IK](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/RE1IK)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 7:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/flying-a-helicopter-got-ridiculous-potential-fix/152305/245 "2013-12-01T19:22:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _DerFetteDetlef said:_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _Re1iK said:_ > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > _bcboy1962 said:_ > > > This is BF 4…deal! > > > > So says the guy who can’t fly. I bet you really hate that you can’t don’t you. Burns you up when you get killed by aircraft huh?? lol > > 1. I’d like to talk to the person who created the original thread on that website first before I link anything in here, no matter you posted it in battlelog or not, sorry. > 2. Please dont turn this into bashing people who don’t like choppers, only countering trolls with polite soberness will put you ahead of them, don’t lower yourself to their layer. > Still thanks for the important informational material you delivered here. You’re right..my bad. But yea..good luck trying to talk to the person who originally wrote it. > [@](#): > > _SilverRook said:_ > dear OP stop flying your helicopter so freaking high making you a sitting duck for these things. > > you serve no purpose being that high only to shoot other helos and jets … which is stupid. > > hug the terrain where possible, use the buildings for cover. > > i have no problems flying attack helos. > > i have a problem with gunners or pilots(when i’m gunning) pilots wont pause to let me lock on with laser guided or cannon. they insist on swooping attacks with their rockets completely forgetting they have a gunner onboard we cant hit shit when you fly like that. and gunners that just use you as a taxi. grrrr > > maintain distance between you and your target - let your gunner do most of the work and pick off the tanks with zuni rockets. > switch to heatseekers when you need to fight off other helos etc … > > but dont try and take on jets. > > top tip if you keep getting rammed too or your dogfighting and the enemy helo insists on getting his cockpit glass to merge with your own… > > before you take off strap some slam mines to you chopper then next time you get rammed you just get YOU WERE KILLED… but you also get the kill as they ram into you. > > this slam technique works on all vehicles too… nice way to take out pesky attack boats or mobile AA. You say don’t fly high but then you go on to complain about the pilot’s flying. What you are describing is the direct result of a pilot flying low…which will be completely erratic because of having to dodge lock-ons. Flying low or high in BF4 makes no difference right now. Flying high you’ll either get destroyed in one pass by the attack jet or ate up by the AA. If not one of those two…you’ll die the death of a “thousand needles” from tank/IFV gunners. One hour in the AH…no comment…“facepalm”. ---
**Author:** ![DerFetteDetlef](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/8797f3/32.png) [@DerFetteDetlef](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DerFetteDetlef)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 7:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/flying-a-helicopter-got-ridiculous-potential-fix/152305/246 "2013-12-01T19:28:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _ConfigM said:_ > no one, and i mean no one likes heliwhores. Sorry. This thread is not about anybody liking anybody. It’s about balancing the game. I am sorry you didn’t understand that. If you don’t like helicopters just go ahead playing infantry only (just use that in your server browser). ---
**Author:** ![RE1IK](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/3bc359/32.png) [@RE1IK](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/RE1IK)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 7:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/flying-a-helicopter-got-ridiculous-potential-fix/152305/247 "2013-12-01T19:53:00Z")
Ok…finally a pro-gamer comes right out and says it! Thanks goes to Munchies! https://www.youtube.com/embed/1bRYUPflDPg?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque [[youtube.com](http://youtube.com)] ---
**Author:** ![DerFetteDetlef](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/8797f3/32.png) [@DerFetteDetlef](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DerFetteDetlef)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 8:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/flying-a-helicopter-got-ridiculous-potential-fix/152305/248 "2013-12-01T20:06:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _Re1iK said:_ > Ok…finally a pro-gamer comes right out and says it! Thanks goes to Munchies! > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bRYUPflDPg](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bRYUPflDPg) > > [[youtube.com](http://youtube.com)] Every help is appreciated making this issue more glaring. ---
**Author:** ![RE1IK](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/3bc359/32.png) [@RE1IK](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/RE1IK)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 8:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/flying-a-helicopter-got-ridiculous-potential-fix/152305/249 "2013-12-01T20:24:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _DerFetteDetlef said:_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _Re1iK said:_ > > Ok…finally a pro-gamer comes right out and says it! Thanks goes to Munchies! > > > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bRYUPflDPg](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bRYUPflDPg) > > > > [[youtube.com](http://youtube.com)] > > Every help is appreciated making this issue more glaring. Trust me…I’ll do what I can to bring attention to this issue. ---
**Author:** ![Cannonball\_Delts](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/a88e4f/32.png) [@Cannonball\_Delts](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Cannonball_Delts)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 8:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/flying-a-helicopter-got-ridiculous-potential-fix/152305/250 "2013-12-01T20:27:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _ConfigM said:_ > no one, and i mean no one likes heliwhores. Sorry. I’m sure this post has something to do with something. ---
**Author:** ![DerFetteDetlef](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/8797f3/32.png) [@DerFetteDetlef](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DerFetteDetlef)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 9:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/flying-a-helicopter-got-ridiculous-potential-fix/152305/251 "2013-12-01T21:00:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _dgbea said:_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _ConfigM said:_ > > no one, and i mean no one likes heliwhores. Sorry. > > I’m sure this post has something to do with something. I don’t get it. Explain please. ---
**Author:** ![RE1IK](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/3bc359/32.png) [@RE1IK](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/RE1IK)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 9:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/flying-a-helicopter-got-ridiculous-potential-fix/152305/252 "2013-12-01T21:02:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _dgbea said:_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _ConfigM said:_ > > no one, and i mean no one likes heliwhores. Sorry. > > I’m sure this post has something to do with something. OOOkaaay? But everyone likes tank whores, IFV whores, attack jet whores, scout whores, boat whores…etc??? ---
**Author:** ![R3n019](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/a9a28c/32.png) [@R3n019](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/R3n019)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/flying-a-helicopter-got-ridiculous-potential-fix/152305/253 "2013-12-01T21:14:00Z")
I agree ---
**Author:** ![Dex\_Luther](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@Dex\_Luther](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Dex_Luther)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 9:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/flying-a-helicopter-got-ridiculous-potential-fix/152305/254 "2013-12-01T21:15:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _Mescalamba said:_ > I think DICE is trying to remove anything "skill based" from the game. > > Sniper rifles are one example, heli are another. They simply try to dumb it down as much as possible, nerf anything that ppl whine about. Btw. its just me or attack choppers are way slower now? > > Btw. in case you fly heli, you wont notice that much, but in jets that limited flyzone is really an issue. Worst is Dawnbreaker map.. thats like if you try to park jet into garage for Mini. Also not fan of that bullsh\*t of "jet starts in mid-air" (nowhere to land usually). > > But as I said, they try to make from it "game for kids". It went long way from BF2, with each version to the worse. Except netcode, thats almost as bad as in BF2. > > Just in case someone wonders, if you remove chance to show "skill" in the game, you will also remove will of good players to play and/or reason for others to try to match those which are better than them. Eg. leaving you with game that pretty much no one wants to play. > > DICE right now look like they dont know what they are doing. Or what they want to do. One thing that they really shouldnt do is listening to the whiners or "community" as they say. It really didnt improve game (yes in small bits, but hurt in most). > > If you want to create a great game, you must think on your own, you must be sure this is what you want to do and you want it certain way. Moment you let "community" speak into it, is moment you start to fail. In case you want some confirmation, you can look where WoW ended compared to "vanilla". If you try to please "everyone" you end with game, that pleases almost no one. I guess they dont get that. They will, as soon as sales will start to drop. Maybe BF5 or BF6, it will happen. Its bound to happen, unless they change. > > Yea I went bit "off-topic", but its as usually everything tied together. If you dont have firm idea "what you want to do" you end with this. With "this" being BF4. I think what they are doing (and maybe taking the wrong approach) is to remove the advantage air whores have over everyone else in the air. In past games Air whores with their air whore setups used to have a huge advantage over everyone else in air vehicles. Now air whores still have an advantage, but a lot less of one. It’s the one advantage consoles have over PC. Everyone has the same hardware. Once in the air, you don’t have to worry about being shot down by some dude that has a million hours in jets, 3 screens, and close to a full flight sim setup with joysticks and pedals and shit. ---
**Author:** ![MisterPomfrey](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@MisterPomfrey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MisterPomfrey)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/flying-a-helicopter-got-ridiculous-potential-fix/152305/255 "2013-12-01T21:22:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _Re1iK said:_ > Ok…finally a pro-gamer comes right out and says it! Thanks goes to Munchies! > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bRYUPflDPg](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bRYUPflDPg) > > [[youtube.com](http://youtube.com)] Did you really tried to prove a point with that video? He wants to play aggressive, he doesn’t want to play smart, like in League of Legends. And he said all that while he was crashing his little bird into things without being KIA the instant he did it (why I don’t see anything about that in “balance discussion”?). So if you agree with him you don’t want to play smart either. Which means people that say you want OP helicopters like in BF3 are right. And all this while you agree wit people that say “OMG they made this game for casuals”. Well guess what, helicopters in real life are fragile, they don’t “play aggressive” before the sky is clear. So you complain that playing in helicopters is not as casual as you would like, now you have to think. ---
**Author:** ![whistleklik](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/a88e4f/32.png) [@whistleklik](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/whistleklik)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 9:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/flying-a-helicopter-got-ridiculous-potential-fix/152305/256 "2013-12-01T21:32:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _Mescalamba said:_ > I think DICE is trying to remove anything skill based from the game.. Indeed. They have been slowing turning battlefield into a very casual shooter since COD became a huge cultural phenomenon. They want that for battlefield, nothing else is good enough for them. I don’t think they realize that will never happen for them. All they are doing is alienating current fans and new fans in this insane endeavor. I absolutely fear what the next battlefield will become. Also OP, I agree that the attack chopper is underpowered compared to the scout chopper. DICE has a whole lot of game to balance, because right now things are goofed. ---
**Author:** ![DerFetteDetlef](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/8797f3/32.png) [@DerFetteDetlef](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DerFetteDetlef)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 9:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/flying-a-helicopter-got-ridiculous-potential-fix/152305/257 "2013-12-01T21:44:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _MisterPomfrey said:_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _Re1iK said:_ > > Ok…finally a pro-gamer comes right out and says it! Thanks goes to Munchies! > > > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bRYUPflDPg](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bRYUPflDPg) > > > > [[youtube.com](http://youtube.com)] > > Did you really tried to prove a point with that video? He wants to play aggressive, he doesn’t want to play smart, like in League of Legends. And he said all that while he was crashing his little bird into things without being KIA the instant he did it (why I don’t see anything about that in "balance discussion"?). > > So if you agree with him you don’t want to play smart either. Which means people that say you want OP helicopters like in BF3 are right. > > And all this while you agree wit people that say "OMG they made this game for casuals". Well guess what, helicopters in real life are fragile, they don’t "play aggressive" before the sky is clear. So you complain that playing in helicopters is not as casual as you would like, now you have to think. You’re trying to prove him wrong, yet you’re speaking about little birds and playing smart. I want to play smart and aggressive. This is just campy tactics which don’t even apply to most of the maps in BF3, nor to any maps in BF4 (as there is a lower flight ceiling in BF4 and SRAW launchers). I don’t even know what you’re talking about from “So if you agree” onwards, tbh. ---
**Author:** ![PaulMezick](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/58956e/32.png) [@PaulMezick](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PaulMezick)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 9:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/flying-a-helicopter-got-ridiculous-potential-fix/152305/258 "2013-12-01T21:48:00Z")
The attack chopper has no role in this game. You’ll help your team more being on foot compared to being an AH. There is something seriously wrong with it. ---
**Author:** ![RivieraKid99](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@RivieraKid99](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/RivieraKid99)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 9:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/flying-a-helicopter-got-ridiculous-potential-fix/152305/259 "2013-12-01T21:50:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _MisterPomfrey said:_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _Re1iK said:_ > > Ok…finally a pro-gamer comes right out and says it! Thanks goes to Munchies! > > > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bRYUPflDPg](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bRYUPflDPg) > > > > [[youtube.com](http://youtube.com)] > > Did you really tried to prove a point with that video? He wants to play aggressive, he doesn’t want to play smart, like in League of Legends. And he said all that while he was crashing his little bird into things without being KIA the instant he did it (why I don’t see anything about that in "balance discussion"?). > > So if you agree with him you don’t want to play smart either. Which means people that say you want OP helicopters like in BF3 are right. > > And all this while you agree wit people that say "OMG they made this game for casuals". Well guess what, helicopters in real life are fragile, they don’t "play aggressive" before the sky is clear. So you complain that playing in helicopters is not as casual as you would like, now you have to think. agree. It is not BF3. The AH is a different type of weapon and you all need to relearn it. You cant take what you know from BF3 and apply it to BF4 so it doesn’t matter how skilled you were in bf3, this is BF4. ---
**Author:** ![Sarg\_Scorpio](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@Sarg\_Scorpio](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sarg_Scorpio)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 9:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/flying-a-helicopter-got-ridiculous-potential-fix/152305/260 "2013-12-01T21:51:00Z")
The attack heli needs some serious stuff done to it, This thread also lists come changes that are needed, keep it alive for the devs. [Attack Heli Change Thread. (keep alive for Devs)](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/attack-heli-change-thread-keep-alive-for-devs/152298) This thread needs to talka more about balance rather than this Fuck off heli pilots this is CODfield now. This is actually battlefield !!! [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/flying-a-helicopter-got-ridiculous-potential-fix/152305.md?page=12) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/flying-a-helicopter-got-ridiculous-potential-fix/152305.md?page=14)