# 'Former Battlefield manager warns EA to ‘step it up’ after Modern Warfare gameplay reveal'

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [August 17, 2019, 2:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224 "2019-08-17T14:36:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![lunajpsn](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/8c91f0/32.png) [@lunajpsn](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/lunajpsn)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 5:03am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/21 "2019-08-18T05:03:00Z")

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> [@LankRich](#):
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> [https://www.dexerto.com/call-of-duty/battlefield-manager-warns-ea-step-it-up-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal-877079](https://www.dexerto.com/call-of-duty/battlefield-manager-warns-ea-step-it-up-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal-877079)
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> But more importantly, I hope the managing directors and those in charge of the decision making of this game learn a lesson from the mistakes they have made.

I think they learned their lesson when EA’s stock price when from $148 to $73…that certainly got their attention.

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**Author:** ![Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hawxxeye/32/101036_2.png) [@Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Hawxxeye)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 7:47am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/22 "2019-08-18T07:47:00Z")

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> [@lunajpsn](#):
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> > [@LankRich](#):
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> > [https://www.dexerto.com/call-of-duty/battlefield-manager-warns-ea-step-it-up-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal-877079](https://www.dexerto.com/call-of-duty/battlefield-manager-warns-ea-step-it-up-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal-877079)
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> > But more importantly, I hope the managing directors and those in charge of the decision making of this game learn a lesson from the mistakes they have made.
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> I think they learned their lesson when EA’s stock price when from $148 to $73…that certainly got their attention.

You think so?  
A normal person would think “Gee I need to do better from now on” Perhaps I should cut the losses by reducing the pointlessly high executive’s pay

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A triple A will say "Not enough money! Not enough cattle to milk! Must lay off low wage employees to keep the executive bonuses in the millions! Must make BF even more like CoD even though CoD tries to be more like BF! Must bring more cattle by pointlessly trying to please demographics who do not play my games anyway! Must rush more half finished game and fill them with microtransactions and surprise mechanics!

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**Author:** ![Shadders\_X](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Shadders\_X](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Shadders_X)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 1:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/23 "2019-08-18T13:17:00Z")

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Hi,  
Video in the following link - shows play, and you can see the opposition :

[https://www.gamespot.com/articles/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-news-coming-at-gamesco/1100-6469174/](https://www.gamespot.com/articles/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-news-coming-at-gamesco/1100-6469174/)

Regards,  
Shadders\_X.

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**Author:** ![GRAW2ROBZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/graw2robz/32/102113_2.png) [@GRAW2ROBZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GRAW2ROBZ)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 1:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/24 "2019-08-18T13:31:00Z")

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> [@VOLBANKER](#):
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> The upcoming COD may also have serious issues - we don’t know yet.
> 
> EDIT: Not that I’m hoping it does, on the contrary. Just saying

20vs20 already crashed for pc.

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**Author:** ![OskooI\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/oskooi_007/32/103046_2.png) [@OskooI\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/OskooI_007)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 4:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/25 "2019-08-18T16:57:00Z")

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_“I think they’ll successfully pull in a lot of people from other games to come and try Call of Duty again. That seems like what they’re going for.”_ -GameSpot

Well it’s working. I haven’t played since Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare in 2007. So this will be the first CoD I’ve bought in 10 years.

Modern Warfare 2019 looks amazing! Weapons look and sound realistic. But the thing that’s really roped me in is the large scale modes with big maps, high player counts, and drivable vehicles.

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**Author:** ![GRAW2ROBZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/graw2robz/32/102113_2.png) [@GRAW2ROBZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GRAW2ROBZ)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/26 "2019-08-18T17:31:00Z")

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> [@OskooI\_007](#):
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> _“I think they’ll successfully pull in a lot of people from other games to come and try Call of Duty again. That seems like what they’re going for.”_ -GameSpot
> 
> Well it’s working. I haven’t played since Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare in 2007. So this will be the first CoD I’ve bought in 10 years.
> 
> Modern Warfare 2019 looks amazing! Weapons look and sound realistic. But the thing that’s really roped me in is the large scale modes with big maps, high player counts, and drivable vehicles.

I believe all vehicles are call in after kill streaks. But the light tank is a 2 seater. So even if your not getting the kills. You can hop in with a friend that does. I guess that body armor and mini gun is a call in and they play the music Heavy Metal from Sammy Hagar. Still worried the game wont hold up for 50vs50 for this gen consoles. When DrDisRespect and other streamers went to that place to test out the 20vs20 it crashed for them on pc. Then another youtuber said the maps are a bit large for 20vs20. Tons of hiding spots and clutter.

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**Author:** ![LankRich](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lankrich/32/106864_2.png) [@LankRich](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LankRich)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/27 "2019-08-18T23:08:00Z")

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I’ve just seen that with the ‘Dark Edition’ of the game, you get a pair of night-vision goggles too :lol:

But by the way things are looking, Modern Warfare at its current state is less buggy and runs smoother than what Battlefield does, which has had just under 10 months to sort its out.

I’ve always had my buzz on for Battlefield, even for BF1 (I loved the stripped back to basics approach to it and thought the historical aspect of it was tastefully done). But with BFV on the other hand… it’s just been dreadful, ever since its release with the ‘ello old friend’ bombshell..

As excited as I am for COD, I’m equally interested to see what Battlefield releases in an attempt to keep it’s dwindling player base. I honestly don’t think they’ll be able to pull it out of the bag

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**Author:** ![ackers75](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@ackers75](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ackers75)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/28 "2019-08-18T23:22:00Z")

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> [@GRAW2ROBZ](#):
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> OskooI\_007 said:  
> “I think they’ll successfully pull in a lot of people from other games to come and try Call of Duty again. That seems like what they’re going for.” -GameSpot
> 
> Well it’s working. I haven’t played since Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare in 2007. So this will be the first CoD I’ve bought in 10 years.
> 
> Modern Warfare 2019 looks amazing! Weapons look and sound realistic. But the thing that’s really roped me in is the large scale modes with big maps, high player counts, and drivable vehicles.
> 
> I believe all vehicles are call in after kill streaks. But the light tank is a 2 seater. So even if your not getting the kills. You can hop in with a friend that does. I guess that body armor and mini gun is a call in and they play the music Heavy Metal from Sammy Hagar. Still worried the game wont hold up for 50vs50 for this gen consoles. When DrDisRespect and other streamers went to that place to test out the 20vs20 it crashed for them on pc. Then another youtuber said the maps are a bit large for 20vs20. Tons of hiding spots and clutter.

50vs50 was being tested and is not set in stone.  
32vs32 will suffice

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**Author:** ![ZuluWarGod](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/zuluwargod/32/107366_2.png) [@ZuluWarGod](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ZuluWarGod)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 12:20am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/29 "2019-08-19T00:20:00Z")

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I think DICE need to be very very careful. I’ve been playing since the start and loved bf2 and 3. Having just bought and played bf5 for the past 2 wks I’m just so sad to see how the game has become.

The game is now a single payer Deathmatch which has some interesting maps but really it’s only infantry battle. There is such a big disconnect between planes and other vehicles not sure if you can call 5 a battlefield game.

The game (as the name battlefield implies) USED to mean large maps filled with vehicles, planes, buildings in which one could battle in an almost sandbox like game.

If DICE wanted to bring the franchise back to its core they could easily add some large maps and increase vechiles count. They could also remove some unnecessary animations and most importantly make it fun again.

I think there is a game underneath it all, maybe some future maps will fix some problems. Oh and of course increase player count.

Otherwise if cod gives me that good old battlefield feeling then I see no reason why I wouldn’t play it. I’ve actually been playing bf3 in 4k again, such a fun game…

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**Author:** ![research-kitchen](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/bc8723/32.png) [@research-kitchen](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/research-kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 1:12am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/30 "2019-08-19T01:12:00Z")

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Gonna try the beta, and see how that goes. You can play the beta Sept 12 depending on what platform.

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**Author:** ![bran1986](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bran1986/32/101405_2.png) [@bran1986](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bran1986)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 3:05am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/31 "2019-08-19T03:05:00Z")

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I’m going to give the beta a try but Im still highly skeptical of Activision and I’m still skeptical of how the COD formula translates to big maps with large player counts.

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**Author:** ![filthmcnasty](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/d07c76/32.png) [@filthmcnasty](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/filthmcnasty)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 4:29am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/32 "2019-08-19T04:29:00Z")

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> [@LankRich](#):
>
> [https://www.dexerto.com/call-of-duty/battlefield-manager-warns-ea-step-it-up-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal-877079](https://www.dexerto.com/call-of-duty/battlefield-manager-warns-ea-step-it-up-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal-877079)
> 
> ^^ This article just popped up on my timeline and I thought it was quite an interesting read…
> 
> Personally, I think it’s too late for EA/DICE to save Battlefield V. It’s not like there’s been a shortage of opportunities to fix this game and iron out all the annoying bugs, yet here we are. Even with the expected release of the Pacific theatre, I think the majority of us know that the new content will either be delayed or broken to some extent.
> 
> My interest in Call of Duty expired after MW3, but from what I’m seeing, Modern Warefare is going for the jugular and ticking all the boxes that a Battlefield fan looks for in a game; It’s offering large maps, in-depth weapon customisations that affect weapon performance, enormous teams, a real focus on gameplay and now even vehicles - which sounds exactly like what Battlefield used to offer.
> 
> I really hope this game dies and it probably will come October 25th. It will never be the WW2 Battlefield that we were all after and has been a real opportunity wasted. But more importantly, I hope the managing directors and those in charge of the decision making of this game learn a lesson from the mistakes they have made.

I’ll wait till I get my hands on it. I’m sure they will find a way to turn me off of it but I’ll reserve my judgement till then

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**Author:** ![MAILBOMB](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mailbomb/32/102723_2.png) [@MAILBOMB](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MAILBOMB)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 5:55am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/33 "2019-08-19T05:55:00Z")

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The new COD lost me when I found out it cross platforms with PC.

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**Author:** ![DocCuda418](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/doccuda418/32/101747_2.png) [@DocCuda418](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DocCuda418)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 7:04am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/34 "2019-08-19T07:04:00Z")

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BF3 and 4 are better games than the new COD will be. 1 and 5 look and play bad.

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**Author:** ![disposalist](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@disposalist](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/disposalist)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 10:21am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/35 "2019-08-19T10:21:00Z")

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> [@MAILBOMB](#):
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> The new COD lost me when I found out it cross platforms with PC.

Does it?! Lol. That will be hilarious.

It’s bad enough that DICE don’t balance the console and PC games separately, to actually have cross-platform play is… just Lol.

Still, if CoD is doing it, I expect DICE to add it into Battlefield imminently.

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**Author:** ![misisipiRivrRat](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/misisipirivrrat/32/102822_2.png) [@misisipiRivrRat](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/misisipiRivrRat)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 11:33am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/36 "2019-08-19T11:33:00Z")

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> [@disposalist](#):
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> > [@MAILBOMB](#):
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> > The new COD lost me when I found out it cross platforms with PC.
> 
> Does it?! Lol. That will be hilarious.
> 
> It’s bad enough that DICE don’t balance the console and PC games separately, to actually have cross-platform play is… just Lol.
> 
> Still, if CoD is doing it, I expect DICE to add it into Battlefield imminently.

> [@disposalist](#):
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> > [@MAILBOMB](#):
> >
> > The new COD lost me when I found out it cross platforms with PC.
> 
> Does it?! Lol. That will be hilarious.
> 
> It’s bad enough that DICE don’t balance the console and PC games separately, to actually have cross-platform play is… just Lol.
> 
> Still, if CoD is doing it, I expect DICE to add it into Battlefield imminently.

> [@MAILBOMB](#):
>
> The new COD lost me when I found out it cross platforms with PC.

Not positive, but I think I read that you will need to opt in for it to be cross platform.

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**Author:** ![StingX71](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/stingx71/32/103620_2.png) [@StingX71](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/StingX71)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 12:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/37 "2019-08-19T12:55:00Z")

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> [@misisipiRivrRat](#):
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> > [@disposalist](#):
> >
> > > [@MAILBOMB](#):
> > >
> > > The new COD lost me when I found out it cross platforms with PC.
> > 
> > Does it?! Lol. That will be hilarious.
> > 
> > It’s bad enough that DICE don’t balance the console and PC games separately, to actually have cross-platform play is… just Lol.
> > 
> > Still, if CoD is doing it, I expect DICE to add it into Battlefield imminently.
> 
> > [@disposalist](#):
> >
> > > [@MAILBOMB](#):
> > >
> > > The new COD lost me when I found out it cross platforms with PC.
> > 
> > Does it?! Lol. That will be hilarious.
> > 
> > It’s bad enough that DICE don’t balance the console and PC games separately, to actually have cross-platform play is… just Lol.
> > 
> > Still, if CoD is doing it, I expect DICE to add it into Battlefield imminently.
> 
> > [@MAILBOMB](#):
> >
> > The new COD lost me when I found out it cross platforms with PC.
> 
> Not positive, but I think I read that you will need to opt in for it to be cross platform.

It is opt in and based on peripheral. I’m all for it. looking forward to the 20v20 as well, sure they’ll be some balance issues at first but willing to give them a chance.

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**Author:** ![GRAW2ROBZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/graw2robz/32/102113_2.png) [@GRAW2ROBZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GRAW2ROBZ)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 1:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/38 "2019-08-19T13:08:00Z")

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> [@MAILBOMB](#):
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> The new COD lost me when I found out it cross platforms with PC.

I’m sure there’s a tab to pick and choose what is cross platform connected. Cause PC with mouse and keyboard would kill off the console players.

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**Author:** ![ragnarok013](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ragnarok013/32/103211_2.png) [@ragnarok013](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ragnarok013)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/39 "2019-08-19T13:46:00Z")

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> [@misisipiRivrRat](#):
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> > [@disposalist](#):
> >
> > > [@MAILBOMB](#):
> > >
> > > The new COD lost me when I found out it cross platforms with PC.
> > 
> > Does it?! Lol. That will be hilarious.
> > 
> > It’s bad enough that DICE don’t balance the console and PC games separately, to actually have cross-platform play is… just Lol.
> > 
> > Still, if CoD is doing it, I expect DICE to add it into Battlefield imminently.
> 
> > [@disposalist](#):
> >
> > > [@MAILBOMB](#):
> > >
> > > The new COD lost me when I found out it cross platforms with PC.
> > 
> > Does it?! Lol. That will be hilarious.
> > 
> > It’s bad enough that DICE don’t balance the console and PC games separately, to actually have cross-platform play is… just Lol.
> > 
> > Still, if CoD is doing it, I expect DICE to add it into Battlefield imminently.
> 
> > [@MAILBOMB](#):
> >
> > The new COD lost me when I found out it cross platforms with PC.
> 
> Not positive, but I think I read that you will need to opt in for it to be cross platform.

This is also what I’ve heard.

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**Author:** ![CH1R0N83](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ch1r0n83/32/101488_2.png) [@CH1R0N83](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CH1R0N83)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/40 "2019-08-19T14:53:00Z")

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> [@misisipiRivrRat](#):
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> disposalist said:
> 
> MAILBOMB said:  
> The new COD lost me when I found out it cross platforms with PC.
> 
> Does it?! Lol. That will be hilarious.
> 
> It’s bad enough that DICE don’t balance the console and PC games separately, to actually have cross-platform play is… just Lol.
> 
> Still, if CoD is doing it, I expect DICE to add it into Battlefield imminently.
> 
> disposalist said:
> 
> MAILBOMB said:  
> The new COD lost me when I found out it cross platforms with PC.
> 
> Does it?! Lol. That will be hilarious.
> 
> It’s bad enough that DICE don’t balance the console and PC games separately, to actually have cross-platform play is… just Lol.
> 
> Still, if CoD is doing it, I expect DICE to add it into Battlefield imminently.
> 
> MAILBOMB said:  
> The new COD lost me when I found out it cross platforms with PC.
> 
> Not positive, but I think I read that you will need to opt in for it to be cross platform.

I believe it will also match people based on their input device. So it will try to put controller with controller and kb+m with kb+m.

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