# 'Former Battlefield manager warns EA to ‘step it up’ after Modern Warfare gameplay reveal'

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [August 17, 2019, 2:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224 "2019-08-17T14:36:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![trip1ex](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@trip1ex](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/trip1ex)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 3:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/41 "2019-08-19T15:50:00Z")

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wait until someone uses an apex xim on pc with a m/k and a bucket of cheats and opts in for cross platform play.

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**Author:** ![BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/baronvongoon/32/100934_2.png) [@BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BaronVonGoon)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/42 "2019-08-19T16:01:00Z")

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**Author:** ![OskooI\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/oskooi_007/32/103046_2.png) [@OskooI\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/OskooI_007)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 4:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/43 "2019-08-19T16:19:00Z")

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Fortnite is forcing players to opt-in crossplay.

> [@TheVerge](#):
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> Players will still technically have to opt in to agree to play against players on the opposite console. But Epic Games isn’t really leaving players much of a choice: the ones who don’t opt in will be limited to just Creative Mode and Playgrounds.
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> [https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/12/18261532/fortnite-patch-xbox-one-ps4-cross-play-default-battle-royale](https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/12/18261532/fortnite-patch-xbox-one-ps4-cross-play-default-battle-royale)

So if you want to play Battle Royale mode in Fortnite, you’re forced to opt-in crossplay. Hopefully Infinity Ward handles things differently.

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**Author:** ![Ferdinand\_J\_Foch](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ferdinand_j_foch/32/101936_2.png) [@Ferdinand\_J\_Foch](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Ferdinand_J_Foch)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 4:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/44 "2019-08-19T16:50:00Z")

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Apparently, Modern Warfare will have input based matchmaking across platforms. That means that someone with a KB+M setup on console can play with PC players with the same setup, but a KB+M user on PC can’t be matched against a console controller user.

That seems rather fair to me … so far.

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**Author:** ![BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/baronvongoon/32/100934_2.png) [@BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BaronVonGoon)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 5:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/45 "2019-08-19T17:09:00Z")

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> [@Ferdinand\_J\_Foch](#):
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> Apparently, Modern Warfare will have input based matchmaking across platforms. That means that someone with a KB+M setup on console can play with PC players with the same setup, but a KB+M user on PC can’t be matched against a console controller user.
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> That seems rather fair to me … so far.

This makes sense.

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**Author:** ![Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hawxxeye/32/101036_2.png) [@Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Hawxxeye)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/46 "2019-08-19T17:51:00Z")

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> [@Ferdinand\_J\_Foch](#):
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> Apparently, Modern Warfare will have input based matchmaking across platforms. That means that someone with a KB+M setup on console can play with PC players with the same setup, but a KB+M user on PC can’t be matched against a console controller user.
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> That seems rather fair to me … so far.

This would be amazing for those who want to have a PC experience without paying 2 or more times the cost of a console

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**Author:** ![bran1986](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bran1986/32/101405_2.png) [@bran1986](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bran1986)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/47 "2019-08-19T18:53:00Z")

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> [@Ferdinand\_J\_Foch](#):
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> Apparently, Modern Warfare will have input based matchmaking across platforms. That means that someone with a KB+M setup on console can play with PC players with the same setup, but a KB+M user on PC can’t be matched against a console controller user.
> 
> That seems rather fair to me … so far.

Wasn’t there a game that did this but people would plug in the controller until the match started and they would just plug there M+K back in? I remember reading about this but can’t remember the game.

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**Author:** ![Jeffmaxs6](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/0ea827/32.png) [@Jeffmaxs6](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jeffmaxs6)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/48 "2019-08-19T20:16:00Z")

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COD is good for fast run/gun, but if I wanted to do that UT or Quake would be more my style.

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**Author:** ![Axlerod1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Axlerod1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Axlerod1)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 9:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/49 "2019-08-19T21:05:00Z")

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> [@Hawxxeye](#):
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> > [@Ferdinand\_J\_Foch](#):
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> > Apparently, Modern Warfare will have input based matchmaking across platforms. That means that someone with a KB+M setup on console can play with PC players with the same setup, but a KB+M user on PC can’t be matched against a console controller user.
> > 
> > That seems rather fair to me … so far.
> 
> This would be amazing for those who want to have a PC experience without paying 2 or more times the cost of a console

What would be amazing is if EA/DICE would give PC players an experience that wasn’t at a console level. That would be real amazing!

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**Author:** ![VincentNZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/ce7236/32.png) [@VincentNZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VincentNZ)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 9:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/50 "2019-08-19T21:20:00Z")

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> [@Hawxxeye](#):
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> > [@Ferdinand\_J\_Foch](#):
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> > Apparently, Modern Warfare will have input based matchmaking across platforms. That means that someone with a KB+M setup on console can play with PC players with the same setup, but a KB+M user on PC can’t be matched against a console controller user.
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> > That seems rather fair to me … so far.
> 
> This would be amazing for those who want to have a PC experience without paying 2 or more times the cost of a console

I’d rather have full crossplay. Never having to worry about playercounts again and each player has the same game experience regardless of platform and region. Plus of course in the long run one would use the appropriate input device for each game. Would put every gamer on the same level again.

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**Author:** ![OskooI\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/oskooi_007/32/103046_2.png) [@OskooI\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/OskooI_007)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/51 "2019-08-19T21:23:00Z")

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Infinity Ward said at Gamescom that console to console cross-play is possible. It’s good to know consoles won’t be forced to play with PC.

[![Video: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare - Gamescom 2019 2v2 Alpha Trailer | PS4](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/c/f/cf2268a3b0b75d0e03d9ff42b662ab8ae47f75f7.jpeg "Call of Duty: Modern Warfare - Gamescom 2019 2v2 Alpha Trailer | PS4") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whRTQFx-enE)

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**Author:** ![LankRich](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lankrich/32/106864_2.png) [@LankRich](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LankRich)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 10:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/52 "2019-08-20T10:28:00Z")

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The game isn’t even out yet and we have more to forward to in Call of Duty than we do in BFV..

Even if Battlefield were to introduce cross play further on down the line, I have zero confidence they’ll be able to do it properly and without a million bugs

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**Author:** ![Axlerod1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Axlerod1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Axlerod1)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 12:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/53 "2019-08-20T12:48:00Z")

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Bfv is done. EA dice ruined it before launch and the low player count proves it. Not to mention 1 month after launch the game was discounted by half.

Player know that ea can’t put out a game that is with buying or playing. The Competitors know it to.

EA needs to come up with a business model that generates business and not drives business away.

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**Author:** ![Shadders\_X](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Shadders\_X](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Shadders_X)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 1:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/54 "2019-08-20T13:02:00Z")

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> [@Axlerod1](#):
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> Bfv is done. EA dice ruined it before launch and the low player count proves it. Not to mention 1 month after launch the game was discounted by half.
> 
> Player know that ea can’t put out a game that is with buying or playing. The Competitors know it to.
> 
> EA needs to come up with a business model that generates business and not drives business away.

Hi,  
Is it possible that EA are being too aggressive in the pursuit of profit, which caused them to release an unfinished game, with planned Battle Royale mode to capture further revenue, riding on the back of the Fortnite success ?

DICE do have to take some of the responsibility - from the sales, everyone was happy with BF1 (25 million units sold ??), so a modification to this design, for WW2 could have been a winner ?.

I am not too bothered about having major changes in the next game - was happy with all the games from BF2:MC to BF4.

Regards,  
Shadders.

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**Author:** ![ninjapenquinuk](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/eb8c5e/32.png) [@ninjapenquinuk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ninjapenquinuk)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 1:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/55 "2019-08-20T13:08:00Z")

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> [@Shadders\_X](#):
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> > [@Axlerod1](#):
> >
> > Bfv is done. EA dice ruined it before launch and the low player count proves it. Not to mention 1 month after launch the game was discounted by half.
> > 
> > Player know that ea can’t put out a game that is with buying or playing. The Competitors know it to.
> > 
> > EA needs to come up with a business model that generates business and not drives business away.
> 
> Hi,  
> Is it possible that EA are being too aggressive in the pursuit of profit, which caused them to release an unfinished game, with planned Battle Royale mode to capture further revenue, riding on the back of the Fortnite success ?
> 
> DICE do have to take some of the responsibility - from the sales, everyone was happy with BF1 (25 million units sold ??), so a modification to this design, for WW2 could have been a winner ?.
> 
> I am not too bothered about having major changes in the next game - was happy with all the games from BF2:MC to BF4.
> 
> Regards,  
> Shadders.

EA being aggressive in the pursuit of profit - is the Pope a Catholic?

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**Author:** ![ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/elliotlh/32/101030_2.png) [@ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ElliotLH)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 1:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/56 "2019-08-20T13:18:00Z")

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> [@bran1986](#):
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> > [@Ferdinand\_J\_Foch](#):
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> > Apparently, Modern Warfare will have input based matchmaking across platforms. That means that someone with a KB+M setup on console can play with PC players with the same setup, but a KB+M user on PC can’t be matched against a console controller user.
> > 
> > That seems rather fair to me … so far.
> 
> Wasn’t there a game that did this but people would plug in the controller until the match started and they would just plug there M+K back in? I remember reading about this but can’t remember the game.

That was Overwatch I believe.

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**Author:** ![flatrock101](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/76d3ee/32.png) [@flatrock101](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/flatrock101)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/57 "2019-08-20T15:47:00Z")

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If one thing buying bfv has taught me it’s  
Not to buy the next game on release date,

Wait for the reviews from the players who know,  
Including cod games.

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**Author:** ![ForbidRhyme](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@ForbidRhyme](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ForbidRhyme)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 4:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/58 "2019-08-20T16:31:00Z")

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> [@flatrock101](#):
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> If one thing buying bfv has taught me it’s  
> Not to buy the next game on release date,
> 
> Wait for the reviews from the players who know,  
> Including cod games.

Right there with ya.

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**Author:** ![Natetendo83](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/natetendo83/32/102925_2.png) [@Natetendo83](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Natetendo83)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 5:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/59 "2019-08-20T17:26:00Z")

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> [@Axlerod1](#):
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> Bfv is done. EA dice ruined it before launch and the low player count proves it. Not to mention 1 month after launch the game was discounted by half.

Not even a month. It was discounted within the first week of release, meanwhile DICE were making fun of the critics at their launch party.

I have no faith left in this studio at this point. I’ll see if Bad Company 3 (if the rumor is true anyone) is any good, but if they massacre that I won’t be buying another DICE game again.

Everything they do injects social commentary and their general attitudes towards consumers is incredibly condescending as well. Also, go read Glass Door reviews from former employees and you’ll see a lot of complaints about how the work environment is “extremely political” and it seeps into their game design. We saw some of that with BFV and the game tanked by comparison, but I don’t expect them to learn anything from it.

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**Author:** ![PackersDK](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ac91a4/32.png) [@PackersDK](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PackersDK)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 6:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/former-battlefield-manager-warns-ea-to-step-it-up-after-modern-warfare-gameplay-reveal/107224/60 "2019-08-20T18:30:00Z")

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> [@flatrock101](#):
>
> If one thing buying bfv has taught me it’s  
> Not to buy the next game on release date,
> 
> Wait for the reviews from the players who know,  
> Including cod games.

Not to forget, no more Premium and the like. Never again. I liked BF1 alot, so jumped head first into the shallow end of that cesspool.

Leason learned.

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