# Getting the sisters involved

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/getting-the-sisters-involved/101245>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 13, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/getting-the-sisters-involved/101245 "2016-05-13T18:40:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sir-xer21/32/103487_2.png) [@Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sir-xer21)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 8:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/getting-the-sisters-involved/101245/21 "2016-05-13T20:20:00Z")

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> [@JuveOG1105](#):
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> > [@Napoleonicus](#):
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> > What gameplay purposes would weapons that were never there have, pray tell? The war was fought without them, and we can do without them too. We just won’t. Same logic applies, and it would not even affect gameplay or balance. You’re willing to suspend disbelief to the point of 10 red barons in one battle when he was a single man. Being an iconic hero does not justify there being more than one. If you’re willing to engage in suspension of disbelief on one side but not another, that’s fine bro. Just own it rather than impute I don’t understand. You’re doing yourself a disservice. 🙂
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> Ok stop with the smug emoji smiles. We’re having a debate.

lol, it’s hardly a debate. I’m just sad I forgot my marshmallows because you’re getting absolutely roasted here.

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**Author:** ![JuveOG1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/eada6e/32.png) [@JuveOG1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JuveOG1105)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/getting-the-sisters-involved/101245/22 "2016-05-13T20:24:00Z")

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> [@Sir-xer21](#):
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> > [@JuveOG1105](#):
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> > > [@Napoleonicus](#):
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> > > What gameplay purposes would weapons that were never there have, pray tell? The war was fought without them, and we can do without them too. We just won’t. Same logic applies, and it would not even affect gameplay or balance. You’re willing to suspend disbelief to the point of 10 red barons in one battle when he was a single man. Being an iconic hero does not justify there being more than one. If you’re willing to engage in suspension of disbelief on one side but not another, that’s fine bro. Just own it rather than impute I don’t understand. You’re doing yourself a disservice. 🙂
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> > Ok stop with the smug emoji smiles. We’re having a debate.
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> lol, it’s hardly a debate. I’m just sad I forgot my marshmallows because you’re getting absolutely roasted here.

I’m arguing my point he’s arguing his that’s a debate. He’s right in some cases and so am I. Instead of insulting how bout telling me how he’s roasting me?

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**Author:** ![CAPT\_Gangplank](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/eb9ed0/32.png) [@CAPT\_Gangplank](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CAPT_Gangplank)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/getting-the-sisters-involved/101245/23 "2016-05-13T20:36:00Z")

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[quote=“JuveOG1105;6525” Ok stop with the smug emoji smiles. We’re having a debate. I’m not talking about experimental weapons more so along the lines of lmgs and the war was not fought with out them. Secondly women units where pretty much all women if dice put them in garuntee you it’d be like a 60/40 ratio of men to women. I’m doing no disservice to myself because I want the game a certain way. It’s my opinion or am I not allowed to have those now? Read what I said to you can stretch The Red Baron thing cause there was more than 1 plane painted red. Why are you so adamant to have women in the game?[/quote]

I’m sorry the emojis are getting to you. I use them to express that there is no animosity involved. I’m sorry that you interpreted them in any other way. I’m a rather jovial person who has a tendency use them like one would salt or pepper to give flavour. I’ll try hold them back tho.  
I can understand that some weapons were there were modified. I’m willing to suspend disbelief on that front. The experimental weapons will still be there regardless of the fact that they were never actually deployed in any capacity, something I might have more of an issue with. They never were there to begin with, as opposed to a limited number of women who actually did take part in the war, however limited in number they were. As I recall, they were deployed against the Germans. I could actually dig up which battles they took part in. That is still more than can be said of the prototypes which were never actually fielded but will end up in the game.  
I took up the Red Baron thing because the Red Baron should actually be a rarer occurrence than even women were in the war. The Red Baron skin is not just a red skin for a Fokker plane. It was his signature look with decals and markings, something his very own squadron did not have. Having ten in one encounter makes no sense, even if there was a colour picker to paint your own plane red, it would still not be the Red Baron’s plane. I’m sure you understand me better on this point now. The point is, there is only one of him and 2000 women were recruited by Russia alone.  
Why am I adamant on seeing them in the game? Well, you said yourself we’re having a debate. Would hardly be one if I wasn’t willing to defend it, but I would not call myself so much as adamant. The title of the thread and the original post do describe why I took up the position. I’d like a little more diversity in the playerbase. Just like there are actual servicewomen who might like to play this game, or just like my girlfriend who has a Sisters of Battle army for Warhammer 40k, but was never attracted to Battlefield before. Adamant? Not so much, but with so much suspension of disbelief on other fronts, and one woman featured in the trailer, I didn’t see it as such a huge stretch.

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**Author:** ![JuveOG1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/eada6e/32.png) [@JuveOG1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JuveOG1105)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/getting-the-sisters-involved/101245/24 "2016-05-13T20:47:00Z")

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> [@Napoleonicus](#):
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> [quote=“JuveOG1105;6525” Ok stop with the smug emoji smiles. We’re having a debate. I’m not talking about experimental weapons more so along the lines of lmgs and the war was not fought with out them. Secondly women units where pretty much all women if dice put them in garuntee you it’d be like a 60/40 ratio of men to women. I’m doing no disservice to myself because I want the game a certain way. It’s my opinion or am I not allowed to have those now? Read what I said to you can stretch The Red Baron thing cause there was more than 1 plane painted red. Why are you so adamant to have women in the game?

I’m sorry the emojis are getting to you. I use them to express that there is no animosity involved. I’m sorry that you interpreted them in any other way. I’m a rather jovial person who has a tendency use them like one would salt or pepper to give flavour. I’ll try hold them back tho.  
I can understand that some weapons were there were modified. I’m willing to suspend disbelief on that front. The experimental weapons will still be there regardless of the fact that they were never actually deployed in any capacity, something I might have more of an issue with. They never were there to begin with, as opposed to a limited number of women who actually did take part in the war, however limited in number they were. As I recall, they were deployed against the Germans. I could actually dig up which battles they took part in. That is still more than can be said of the prototypes which were never actually fielded but will end up in the game.  
I took up the Red Baron thing because the Red Baron should actually be a rarer occurrence than even women were in the war. The Red Baron skin is not just a red skin for a Fokker plane. It was his signature look with decals and markings, something his very own squadron did not have. Having ten in one encounter makes no sense, even if there was a colour picker to paint your own plane red, it would still not be the Red Baron’s plane. I’m sure you understand me better on this point now. The point is, there is only one of him and 2000 women were recruited by Russia alone.  
Why am I adamant on seeing them in the game? Well, you said yourself we’re having a debate. Would hardly be one if I wasn’t willing to defend it, but I would not call myself so much as adamant. The title of the thread and the original post do describe why I took up the position. I’d like a little more diversity in the playerbase. Just like there are actual servicewomen who might like to play this game, or just like my girlfriend who has a Sisters of Battle army for Warhammer 40k, but was never attracted to Battlefield before. Adamant? Not so much, but with so much suspension of disbelief on other fronts, and one featured in the trailer, I didn’t see it as such a huge stretch.[/quote]

Touche and ok on the emojis we’re not face to face and without facial expressions you can’t tell who’s being a smarta\*\*. I completely agree on the experimental weapons. I’d really like to see a majority of players using bolt actions with bayonets and Mg’s. I know about the women I’m not trying to say they did absolutely nothing and I don’t doubt women in general. I don’t want you to think I’m sexist or anything cause my girl is way smarter and brings home more money than me and I have zero issues with it. The thing that would really bug me is just the fact that you just didn’t see them that often. There’s that one unit in the Russian army I think don’t know any others right now but they where successful and took around 200,000 prisoners after a battle I believe. Plus women in the Red army during WW2. Like I said in a post earlier if they put them in there’s nothing I can do about it and I’d live with it and again with a post above if they do add them Id want them faction specific. Just like I don’t want to see Harlem hellfighters on the German army.

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**Author:** ![ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thepoolshark/32/103801_2.png) [@ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThePoolshark)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 8:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/getting-the-sisters-involved/101245/25 "2016-05-13T20:57:00Z")

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If I put this much effort into writing papers in class, I would have been done with my degree months ago, lol

Imagine putting this much effort into something that actually mattered…

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**Author:** ![CAPT\_Gangplank](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/eb9ed0/32.png) [@CAPT\_Gangplank](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CAPT_Gangplank)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 9:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/getting-the-sisters-involved/101245/26 "2016-05-13T21:02:00Z")

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[quote=“JuveOG1105;6553” if they put them in there’s nothing I can do about it and I’d live with it and again with a post above if they do add them Id want them faction specific. Just like I don’t want to see Harlem hellfighters on the German army.[/quote]

You are comparing a gender, which all nations have, to a very pointed and specific segregated unit of the US Expeditionary Force.You’ll likely be thrilled to know that the German Army actually had units consisting exclusively of colonial African black soldiers. They would not have to be the Harlem Hellfighters.

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**Author:** ![CAPT\_Gangplank](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/eb9ed0/32.png) [@CAPT\_Gangplank](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CAPT_Gangplank)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 9:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/getting-the-sisters-involved/101245/27 "2016-05-13T21:06:00Z")

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> [@ThePoolshark](#):
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> If I put this much effort into writing papers in class, I would have been done with my degree months ago, lol Imagine putting this much effort into something that actually mattered…

Haha @ThePoolshark , it’s my bread and butter, actually. I’m a journalist. You could say I write essays for a living. I can do this all day, and then some more. Hm Maybe EA needs good people in the PR department.

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**Author:** ![JuveOG1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/eada6e/32.png) [@JuveOG1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JuveOG1105)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 9:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/getting-the-sisters-involved/101245/28 "2016-05-13T21:57:00Z")

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> [@Napoleonicus](#):
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> [quote=“JuveOG1105;6553” if they put them in there’s nothing I can do about it and I’d live with it and again with a post above if they do add them Id want them faction specific. Just like I don’t want to see Harlem hellfighters on the German army.

You are comparing a gender, which all nations have, to a very pointed and specific segregated unit of the US Expeditionary Force.You’ll likely be thrilled to know that the German Army actually had units consisting exclusively of colonial African black soldiers. They would not have to be the Harlem Hellfighters.[/quote]

Didn’t know that I’m still learning about WW1 I’m more of a WW2 guy.

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**Author:** ![CAPT\_Gangplank](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/eb9ed0/32.png) [@CAPT\_Gangplank](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CAPT_Gangplank)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 10:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/getting-the-sisters-involved/101245/29 "2016-05-13T22:06:00Z")

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My best recommendation for anyone who is curious is the ‘The Great War’ youtube channel. Since 2014, they have been following the events of the war week by week as they were happening 100 years ago and is ongoing. I personally love this. It’s well presented and viewable in chunks of 10ish minutes instead of a 2 hour documentary.

[![Video: The Outbreak of WWI - From Local Conflict to World War in 1914 I THE GREAT WAR Week 1](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/c/6/c6b993bb4aedac137e630d9a1c66cf49c7007948.jpeg "The Outbreak of WWI - From Local Conflict to World War in 1914 I THE GREAT WAR Week 1") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FgaL0xIazk)

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**Author:** ![Nobel83-9](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/nobel83-9/32/102968_2.png) [@Nobel83-9](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Nobel83-9)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 10:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/getting-the-sisters-involved/101245/30 "2016-05-13T22:28:00Z")

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> [@Napoleonicus](#):
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> > [@ThePoolshark](#):
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> > If I put this much effort into writing papers in class, I would have been done with my degree months ago, lol Imagine putting this much effort into something that actually mattered…
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> Haha @ThePoolshark , it’s my bread and butter, actually. I’m a journalist. You could say I write essays for a living. I can do this all day, and then some more. Hm Maybe EA needs good people in the PR department.

Yes but hit spellcheck Mr Journalist on that CV before you hit send to [pr@dice.com](mailto:pr@dice.com)

Just teasing. :#

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**Author:** ![CAPT\_Gangplank](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/eb9ed0/32.png) [@CAPT\_Gangplank](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CAPT_Gangplank)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 10:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/getting-the-sisters-involved/101245/31 "2016-05-13T22:33:00Z")

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> [@Nobel83-9](#):
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> Yes but hit spellcheck Mr Journalist on that CV before you hit send to [pr@dice.com](mailto:pr@dice.com)
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> Just teasing. :#

Hah thanks for caring enough to bring it up. 😉 Would it surprise you that English is not my first language?

Anyway… love for the ladies!

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