# Gewehr 43 op? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 16, 2019, 3:57am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/gewehr-43-op/106599 "2019-02-16T03:57:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![6r67uvv1n25z](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/6/d78d45/32.png) [@6r67uvv1n25z](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/6r67uvv1n25z)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 3:57am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/gewehr-43-op/106599/1 "2019-02-16T03:57:00Z")
Is it just me or does the gewehr 43 and possibly the turner need a nerf. ---
**Author:** ![narnold700](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/f05b48/32.png) [@narnold700](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/narnold700)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 5:11am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/gewehr-43-op/106599/2 "2019-02-16T05:11:00Z")
The SMLE has already been nerfed, G43 is OP but then again so are most of the semi-auto rifles in assault class. What really needs to happen is 3x scopes need more breath sway with breath holding ability and semi-auto rifles need more bullet drop. Come to think of it most of the weapons in the game should probably have more bullet drop as it doesn’t make sense that only BA rifles and coax MGs seem to suffer from lots of bullet drop. My fear however is that Dice will simply nerf the damage on the semiauto rifles rendering at least some of them mostly useless, but I guess we will have to wait and see. ---
**Author:** ![aRrAyStArTaT0](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@aRrAyStArTaT0](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/aRrAyStArTaT0)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 5:22am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/gewehr-43-op/106599/3 "2019-02-16T05:22:00Z")
I’d say any Semi-auto rifle that has less recoil than an SMG, a faster fire rate than a SLR sniper, and enough damage to 2 shot you (1 head + 1 body) at any range is ridiculously OP. Especially when they’re more accurate than a MMG with a Bipod and have access to a 3x scope that has no glint. . I’m quite honestly dumbfounded how these guns (Mas 44, g43, turner SMLE, etc) aren’t nerfed yet. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, time to kill is way too low in this game. These guns need to be 3 shots minimum to kill and 5 at long ranges (over 100m) and +1 shot every 50m. ---
**Author:** ![Cerben1](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/cerben1/32/106232_2.png) [@Cerben1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Cerben1)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 3:37pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/gewehr-43-op/106599/4 "2019-02-16T15:37:00Z")
i dont think Dice will nerf any of Action mans run and gun toys so that they will be in par whit any of his side kicks guns. we are playing Action man Field V. if your gun cant be ADAD spam its an camp gun and shold be nerfed to oblivian so that you cant hurt Action man to much ---
**Author:** ![n7k6k5w9jp0](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/n7k6k5w9jp0/32/102907_2.png) [@n7k6k5w9jp0](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/n7k6k5w9jp0)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 3:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/gewehr-43-op/106599/5 "2019-02-16T15:38:00Z")
I think the assault class in general is something of a balance issue. ---
**Author:** ![dutchmasta83](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@dutchmasta83](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/dutchmasta83)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/gewehr-43-op/106599/6 "2019-02-16T15:55:00Z")
nothing needs to be “nerfed” other weapons in other classes should be “buffed” to balance. Nerfing does not balance. Increasing the recoil for assault slrs would be good but I would just call this a change not a nerf, don’t decrease damage please, it is fun to kill AND die quickly without getting tied down in prolonged gunfights ---
**Author:** ![6r67uvv1n25z](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/6/d78d45/32.png) [@6r67uvv1n25z](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/6r67uvv1n25z)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 5:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/gewehr-43-op/106599/7 "2019-02-16T17:34:00Z")
Yeah I agree with dutchmaster. It should probably have increased recoil or bullet drop. Not less damage on hits. ---
**Author:** ![bran1986](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bran1986/32/101405_2.png) [@bran1986](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bran1986)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 7:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/gewehr-43-op/106599/8 "2019-02-16T19:23:00Z")
Assault is op in itself. ---
**Author:** ![Jesus4000](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/9d8465/32.png) [@Jesus4000](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jesus4000)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 8:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/gewehr-43-op/106599/9 "2019-02-16T20:28:00Z")
> [@dutchmasta83](#): > > nothing needs to be “nerfed” other weapons in other classes should be “buffed” to balance. Nerfing does not balance. Increasing the recoil for assault slrs would be good but I would just call this a change not a nerf, don’t decrease damage please, it is fun to kill AND die quickly without getting tied down in prolonged gunfights “Please don’t make my favorite OP gun balanced to all other guns” Don’t you think it’s easier to bring one gun down, instead of lifting all the others? ---
**Author:** ![Skepticus66](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Skepticus66](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Skepticus66)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 8:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/gewehr-43-op/106599/10 "2019-02-16T20:39:00Z")
Just remove the 3x scopes. ---
**Author:** ![stabbinhobo](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@stabbinhobo](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/stabbinhobo)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/gewehr-43-op/106599/11 "2019-02-16T20:58:00Z")
> [@dutchmasta83](#): > > nothing needs to be “nerfed” other weapons in other classes should be “buffed” to balance. Nerfing does not balance. Increasing the recoil for assault slrs would be good but I would just call this a change not a nerf, don’t decrease damage please, it is fun to kill AND die quickly without getting tied down in prolonged gunfights Yes.. make all guns OP so the assault class can experience the same pain every other class experiences against them. You have my vote! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![bran1986](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bran1986/32/101405_2.png) [@bran1986](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bran1986)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 9:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/gewehr-43-op/106599/12 "2019-02-16T21:02:00Z")
> [@Skepticus66](#): > > Just remove the 3x scopes. That would help but they still need recoil and spread. ---
**Author:** ![aRrAyStArTaT0](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@aRrAyStArTaT0](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/aRrAyStArTaT0)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 10:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/gewehr-43-op/106599/13 "2019-02-16T22:01:00Z")
> [@dutchmasta83](#): > > nothing needs to be “nerfed” other weapons in other classes should be “buffed” to balance. Nerfing does not balance. Increasing the recoil for assault slrs would be good but I would just call this a change not a nerf, don’t decrease damage please, it is fun to kill AND die quickly without getting tied down in prolonged gunfights If we’re gonna just buff everything, powercreep becomes a massive problem. Ever heard of powercreep? Basically, when something is OP, the “solution” is to buff everything else. So instead of a few guns killing in 2-3 shots at any range, every gun kills in 2-3 shots at any range. So now, you will get killed by SMGs from across the map and snipers will become useless (like they kindof already are without accuracy). . Powercreep = bad. Nerfing = good. Powercreep = objectively bad game balance and bad game design. Nerfing = better but not perfect. ---
**Author:** ![Soulbreeze](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Soulbreeze](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Soulbreeze)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 10:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/gewehr-43-op/106599/14 "2019-02-16T22:42:00Z")
The only problems I’ve had against those guns are the macro using people that turn them in to automatics. ---
**Author:** ![CSO7777](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@CSO7777](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CSO7777)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/gewehr-43-op/106599/15 "2019-02-16T23:41:00Z")
> [@Soulbreeze](#): > > The only problems I’ve had against those guns are the macro using people that turn them in to automatics. Macros are bad, but they cannot turn them into automatics. You can easily hit max ROF with most of these weapons (if not all), just by clicking fast enough (on PC at least). The Gewehr 43 does not have that high a ROF (300 rpm), so it’s easy to hit max ROF (on PC at least). Even 450 rpm is possible without being a “clicking-god”. This has been talked about and tested in other threads on the forums. Recoil is probably easier to control with macros, because you don’t have to be both clicking the fire-button and controlling recoil at the same time, just hold fire and concentrate on controlling recoil (like the automatics). But good players can do the same as macros (not that I in any way think it’s ok using macros).