# Goodbye BF5, I'm done

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/goodbye-bf5-im-done/106295>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 2, 2019, 7:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/goodbye-bf5-im-done/106295 "2019-01-02T19:38:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 1\
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**Author:** ![parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/parkingbrake)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 10:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/goodbye-bf5-im-done/106295/21 "2019-01-02T22:01:00Z")

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> Agree with a lot of what OP says.  
> We really do seem to have been shortchanged with this game.
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> Years go by, more BF titles emerge and we still find ourselves with a game that is totally broken from release.

The game is not “totally broken”, although there are bugs and some poor design choices it mostly runs well. This sort of pointless exaggeration weakens your entire argument.

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> Personally, I couldn’t care less for ribbons, medals and skins etc.  
> These things are so pointless and have no bearing on how and why I play a game.

That’s you, many players seem to disagree and enjoy grinding their way though those awards. Medals and ribbons and skins etc. have been in the series for many years, why single them out as if this is the first time they’re appeared?

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> Weapon selections seem to be going downhill and there are hardly any to choose or unlock.  
> No attachments to unlock either, so you can’t kit-out your favourite weapon.  
> All you get to unlock is skins.

Wrong again, DICE has chosen to use Specializations rather than attachments to change weapon performance, but you can indeed affect the performance of weapons and vehicles by choosing different specializations. I think the way they did this is clunky and needlessly fragmented, but it does work and it is remarkable that you don’t seem to have figured out how to use the system. Again, this sort of factual error makes your whole argument look weak.

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> Recon class is clearly getting a raw deal nowadays.  
> To the point I don’t really have much love for the franchise anymore.  
> I only ever play recon. That’s my choice and it’s how I choose to play.

Aha, now we’re getting somewhere. You need headshots to get one-hit-kills, so you’re unhappy. You don’t have C4 so you’re unhappy. No motion sensors–unhappy. Spotting is largely gone so your targets aren’t lit up for you so you’re unhappy. Scope glint, limited ammo if you’re not smart enough to load up when you spawn and so on–you refuse to adapt to differences in this game and therefore it’s the game that is bad, not you. Classic.

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> Dice is still caught in this endless web of balancing, to the point that the actual gameplay suffers.  
> No longer can we, as the players, play the game how WE want to.  
> No. We have to play how we’re told to play and it’s just getting plain boring now.

Lots of folks are playing the game the way they want, although in some cases that means old dogs have had to learn new tricks. If you refuse to learn, refuse to adapt, that’s on you, not the game.

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> Scope glint on all recon scopes while other classes don’t have glint is enough on its own for me to put this game down.
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> They added glint in the last days of BF1 and it’s the sole reason I won’t play that game again.

Scope glare has been in this series for many years, and “snipers” (as opposed to Recons) have whined about it for years. I’m a lousy sniper but I’m a good Recon because I spend most of my time using my spotting scope since that helps my team, I put my spawn beacon where it will help my squad, and so on. Players who insist on staring into a telescopic sight for the whole round get no sympathy from me, they’re almost always useless to their team anyway.

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> Real good, Dice.. you’re actually making sure that some of your loyal players DON’T play your games again.  
> Good business model, right there

The group I play with are all long-time BF fans, some going back to the very beginning of the series. They’re all having fun in BFV, even a couple who said they would not buy the game have heard us having a good time and changed their minds. You’re entitled to your opinion, but plenty of players do not share your views.

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