# High ping in Bf4 = advantage, confirmed by dev **URL:** \ **Category:** PC\ **Created:** [June 28, 2014, 9:47am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/high-ping-in-bf4-advantage-confirmed-by-dev/178098 "2014-06-28T09:47:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![i5hoot2kill](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ec9cab/32.png) [@i5hoot2kill](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/i5hoot2kill)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 9:47am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/high-ping-in-bf4-advantage-confirmed-by-dev/178098/1 "2014-06-28T09:47:00Z")
Here you go, straight from the dev’s mouth, so now all you high ping trolls can shut up once and for all with your ridiculous denying of abusing high ping against low ping players and then saying that low ping players are just bad at the game when they complain about you ruining the game for all of us. [http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield\_4/comments/299pjb/cte\_patch\_is\_going\_to\_be\_released\_in\_34\_hours/ciixr5h](http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_4/comments/299pjb/cte_patch_is_going_to_be_released_in_34_hours/ciixr5h) [[reddit.com](http://reddit.com)] > [@](#): > > –]tiggr 9 points 9 hours ago (?|?) > > We’re looking at both ends of this problem. One being having a high ping gives you specific perks over low ping players (making region hopping something you want to do) - netcode is going to make this less of an issue. > > But that might not be enough, and then we’d need a way to let server owners control this (as it is very much asked for). ---
**Author:** ![BassMan\_EA](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@BassMan\_EA](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BassMan_EA)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 9:51am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/high-ping-in-bf4-advantage-confirmed-by-dev/178098/2 "2014-06-28T09:51:00Z")
If true, that is pathetic. Why would you want to play like that though? I couldn’t play with the lag and bad framerate. ---
**Author:** ![dredgXIX](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/f0a364/32.png) [@dredgXIX](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/dredgXIX)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 10:11am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/high-ping-in-bf4-advantage-confirmed-by-dev/178098/3 "2014-06-28T10:11:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _BassMan\_EA said:_ > If true, that is pathetic. Why would you want to play like that though? I couldn’t play with the lag and bad framerate. The way the game is designed, you don’t really “feel” the lag or get frame rate issues…The netcode: what the game code is doing “behind” what you’re seeing is what’s out of whack… So when you shoot someone with high ping, shots don’t register. When someone with high ping shoots at you, their shots “cluster” into 1 shot, basically…that’s why you feel the “instant death” or dying behind cover. It’s the netcode lagging behind what you see. Anyone who’s gamed online for a long time can tell when these things are "off’. ---
**Author:** ![primski](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/eb9ed0/32.png) [@primski](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/primski)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 10:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/high-ping-in-bf4-advantage-confirmed-by-dev/178098/4 "2014-06-28T10:28:00Z")
so we’re playing with torrents client open from now on? ---
**Author:** ![dredgXIX](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/f0a364/32.png) [@dredgXIX](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/dredgXIX)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 10:31am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/high-ping-in-bf4-advantage-confirmed-by-dev/178098/5 "2014-06-28T10:31:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _primski said:_ > so we’re playing with torrents client open from now on? I actually called a guy out for his 600 ping the other day, and told him he was a dick for abusing high ping…so he replied with “so I’m a dick because I’m downloading a torrent?” While you’re playing an online game? Yes…yes, that makes you a dick. Online gaming 101. ---
**Author:** ![Matty1980H](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Matty1980H](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Matty1980H)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 10:35am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/high-ping-in-bf4-advantage-confirmed-by-dev/178098/6 "2014-06-28T10:35:00Z")
If you go on a decent server it will kick anyone over 100 ping, wtf all servers dont have this rule I’ll never know for christ sakes games had it 10 years ago it’s sad really… ---
**Author:** ![dredgXIX](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/f0a364/32.png) [@dredgXIX](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/dredgXIX)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 10:37am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/high-ping-in-bf4-advantage-confirmed-by-dev/178098/7 "2014-06-28T10:37:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _Matty1980H said:_ > If you go on a decent server it will kick anyone over 100 ping, wtf all servers dont have this rule I’ll never know for christ sakes games had it 10 years ago it’s sad really… EU servers seem to be smarter about this. Most US servers don’t kick for high ping, and if they do, it’s at 250-300, so it’s pointless. ---
**Author:** ![manknownasbert1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@manknownasbert1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/manknownasbert1)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 10:39am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/high-ping-in-bf4-advantage-confirmed-by-dev/178098/8 "2014-06-28T10:39:00Z")
I think there should be a ping limiter of 150,anything above that and they are clearly trying to take advantage but have it so it checks 1 minute apart just in case someone has a sudden ping spike but 150 is a reasonable figure imo. ---
**Author:** ![i5hoot2kill](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ec9cab/32.png) [@i5hoot2kill](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/i5hoot2kill)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 10:42am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/high-ping-in-bf4-advantage-confirmed-by-dev/178098/9 "2014-06-28T10:42:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _manknownasbert1 said:_ > I think there should be a ping limiter of 100,anything above that and they are clearly trying to take advantage but have it so it checks 1 minute apart just in case someone has a sudden ping spike but 100 is a reasonable figure imo. there, fixed it for ya 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![manknownasbert1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@manknownasbert1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/manknownasbert1)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 10:45am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/high-ping-in-bf4-advantage-confirmed-by-dev/178098/10 "2014-06-28T10:45:00Z")
It didn’t need fixing lol seeing as I said IMO…not yours but mine. 150 ping and under doesn’t cause any problems but getting higher than that things start to get a bit ropey and I have 120 ping to some east coast USA servers and never had anyone complain about my ping but if they did I would leave. so it just shows under 150 doesn’t cause any problems or people would comment. ---
**Author:** ![Pulldozer](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/838e76/32.png) [@Pulldozer](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Pulldozer)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 10:46am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/high-ping-in-bf4-advantage-confirmed-by-dev/178098/11 "2014-06-28T10:46:00Z")
As far as I know, high ping won’t give you any advantage when accompagnied with packet loss/delay (most common). Quite the contrary. Intentionally induced lag, on the other hand, tends to give you an edge as the factors causing packet loss/delay are not present. ---
**Author:** ![i5hoot2kill](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ec9cab/32.png) [@i5hoot2kill](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/i5hoot2kill)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 10:58am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/high-ping-in-bf4-advantage-confirmed-by-dev/178098/12 "2014-06-28T10:58:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _manknownasbert1 said:_ > It didn’t need fixing lol seeing as I said IMO…not yours but mine. 150 ping and under doesn’t cause any problems but getting higher than that things start to get a bit ropey and I have 120 ping to some east coast USA servers and never had anyone complain about my ping but if they did I would leave. > > so it just shows under 150 doesn’t cause any problems or people would comment. Oh so then i should go play on American East cost servers as i have around 150 ms ping there and thats ok ? Interesting, i might just do that, see if muricans mind ( im sure they wont ) xD. ---
**Author:** ![Rustyhawk](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Rustyhawk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rustyhawk)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 11:10am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/high-ping-in-bf4-advantage-confirmed-by-dev/178098/13 "2014-06-28T11:10:00Z")
It seems right now Dice is ready to confirm anything no matter how pointless particular confirmation is unless if it gets rid of 24/7 whining even for few days, so they can get actual work done until next great “feature” pops up. ---
**Author:** ![i5hoot2kill](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/ec9cab/32.png) [@i5hoot2kill](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/i5hoot2kill)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 11:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/high-ping-in-bf4-advantage-confirmed-by-dev/178098/14 "2014-06-28T11:24:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _Rustyhawk said:_ > It seems right now Dice is ready to confirm anything no matter how pointless particular confirmation is unless if it gets rid of 24/7 whining even for few days, so they can get actual work done until next great "feature" pops up. It was actually a quote from this thread [http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield\_4/comments/299pjb/cte\_patch\_is\_going\_to\_be\_released\_in\_34\_hours/?sort=old](http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_4/comments/299pjb/cte_patch_is_going_to_be_released_in_34_hours/?sort=old) [[reddit.com](http://reddit.com)] , so as you can see the discussion was about the latest cte patch, not about netcode, but i just wanted to point out that even devs themselves know that high ping is an advantage in this game. ---
**Author:** ![Pulldozer](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/838e76/32.png) [@Pulldozer](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Pulldozer)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 11:37am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/high-ping-in-bf4-advantage-confirmed-by-dev/178098/15 "2014-06-28T11:37:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _fu5rod4h said:_ > …even devs themselves know that high ping is an advantage in this game. There is reason for concern when information about the game reaches the developers. ---
**Author:** ![J25035175](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/f9ae1b/32.png) [@J25035175](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/J25035175)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 11:37am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/high-ping-in-bf4-advantage-confirmed-by-dev/178098/16 "2014-06-28T11:37:00Z")
you still moaning about this? ---
**Author:** ![Matty1980H](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Matty1980H](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Matty1980H)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 1:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/high-ping-in-bf4-advantage-confirmed-by-dev/178098/17 "2014-06-28T13:27:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _dredgXIX said:_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _Matty1980H said:_ > > If you go on a decent server it will kick anyone over 100 ping, wtf all servers dont have this rule I’ll never know for christ sakes games had it 10 years ago it’s sad really… > > EU servers seem to be smarter about this. Most US servers don’t kick for high ping, and if they do, it’s at 250-300, so it’s pointless. Yeah it seems you guys/girls have more issues with this in the states, god knows why but a lot of u.s peeps say the same man. ---
**Author:** ![dremanu](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@dremanu](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/dremanu)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 1:47pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/high-ping-in-bf4-advantage-confirmed-by-dev/178098/18 "2014-06-28T13:47:00Z")
This is nothing new, high ping gives an advantage, and high pingers ruin the game for everybody else. So sick and tired of running into third-world parasites playing in North American servers. Unfortunately, for reasons unknown, server admins in North America allow the world’s riff raft to player here, instead of doing the same thing the Europeans do, and put in ping limits and country kicks. ---
**Author:** ![necrosombia](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/5fc32e/32.png) [@necrosombia](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/necrosombia)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 2:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/high-ping-in-bf4-advantage-confirmed-by-dev/178098/19 "2014-06-28T14:38:00Z")
Yea really. East Coast servers are full of shit like that. ---
**Author:** ![Annoynimous](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@Annoynimous](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Annoynimous)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 2:43pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/high-ping-in-bf4-advantage-confirmed-by-dev/178098/20 "2014-06-28T14:43:00Z")
never had this issue in BF 3, in fact low pingers in BF 3 will whoop ass.