# Historical inaccuracy VS Racism VS common sense **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 4, 2016, 10:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633 "2016-11-04T10:28:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Pan\_Kalich](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pan_kalich/32/103070_2.png) [@Pan\_Kalich](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Pan_Kalich)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 10:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/1 "2016-11-04T10:28:00Z")
DICE/EA … I know that in these days it is very cool to be a “politically correct” and raging against everyone who touches any race in a manner that could be considered “politicaly incorrect” … Even though colored (as they were called back then) fighters were (except few units) rarity for them to be promoted as a soldier on the cover of BF1, I understand you wanted it to push it as some kind of of tribute. No problem, i can live with that. Eventhough I found it kind of silly. What i find completely insane and pathetic is your attempt to promote it even further by placing black soldiers into German empire army … that is complete ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and historicaly inaccurate. WHAT THE ACTUAL ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ … Now you can call me racist … eventhough I am not. Why you did not put an asian or hispanic soldiers into GE army too … or any other BF1 army for that matter? By promoting one race above others you are actually being racist and positively discriminating others. Wake up and stop being politicaly correct (for example like stupid Hollywood movies where there must be an Asian, Hispanic and Afroamerican in every movie … so we had the pleasure to watch Afroamerican Heimdal … and I could go on … it cant get anymore stupid than this) … it makes you look dumb, because in these days noone really care about the race … what I care about is a common sense and twisting the history ---
**Author:** ![bulletsearl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/ea666f/32.png) [@bulletsearl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bulletsearl)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 10:29am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/2 "2016-11-04T10:29:00Z")
I’m giving this one 5 hours max. ---
**Author:** ![Pan\_Kalich](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pan_kalich/32/103070_2.png) [@Pan\_Kalich](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Pan_Kalich)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 10:34am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/3 "2016-11-04T10:34:00Z")
> [@bulletsearl](#): > > I’m giving this one 5 hours max. Yea, sure, I would not be much surprised either … and that is what I am trying to point out … burn at the stake everyone who is trying to promote a reason ---
**Author:** ![equim](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/equim/32/101869_2.png) [@equim](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/equim)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 10:39am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/4 "2016-11-04T10:39:00Z")
Oh boy, it’s this thread again! I can’t wait to see the same things over and over again until it gets locked! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![FORSAKEN\_ESF](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/forsaken_esf/32/101988_2.png) [@FORSAKEN\_ESF](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FORSAKEN_ESF)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 10:43am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/5 "2016-11-04T10:43:00Z")
Sadly you can’t say anything that’s against the left political narrative ---
**Author:** ![Pan\_Kalich](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pan_kalich/32/103070_2.png) [@Pan\_Kalich](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Pan_Kalich)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 10:44am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/6 "2016-11-04T10:44:00Z")
I might have known that there were similar threads already … Anyway, if locking this makes forum admin happy, so be it. It wont change the fact that this game is actually racist (eventhough I could not care less), not me. (reasons described above) … and yes, you can keep laughing, at least I made someones day. ---
**Author:** ![Alpine\_Sniper\_97](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/90ced4/32.png) [@Alpine\_Sniper\_97](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Alpine_Sniper_97)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 10:50am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/7 "2016-11-04T10:50:00Z")
It’s such a glaring flaw to see a black soldier as my German scout 60% of the time, I lose my immersion every. single. time. ---
**Author:** ![Chuc0743](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/chuc0743/32/101518_2.png) [@Chuc0743](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Chuc0743)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 10:53am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/8 "2016-11-04T10:53:00Z")
DICE really did screw up the history in a lot of ways. ---
**Author:** ![Bossman1794](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bossman1794/32/101394_2.png) [@Bossman1794](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Bossman1794)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 10:58am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/9 "2016-11-04T10:58:00Z")
Some of the minority backgrounds which fought in the war do seem to be way over-represented. The German sniper being an obvious one. I see so damn many of them it’s crazy. I would appreciate accuracy over SJWing quite a bit. Leave the minority backgrounds as quite a small number of characters on the field at any one time (some sort of lottery system IDK) or just leave it for a DLC or something in Africa. At the end of the day I don’t really care much at all so I’ll let DICE and the fans dictate what they think should happen. ---
**Author:** ![WDMeaun\_2nd](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@WDMeaun\_2nd](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/WDMeaun_2nd)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 11:01am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/10 "2016-11-04T11:01:00Z")
I agree with it not being a Disney movie and they always try to maximize their audience, so they include all races. Disney is not about positive discrimination, they are all about maximizing profit. (Disney hasnt been the most ethical company) That said.. I like the cover images and provided me with a little extra history knowledge.. I’ve yet to actually pay attention to a player’s skin color in game. Honestly never seen it and wouldn’t care less. I just look at the uniform, which is uniform.. ha ---
**Author:** ![ProAssassin2003](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/proassassin2003/32/103170_2.png) [@ProAssassin2003](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ProAssassin2003)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 11:02am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/11 "2016-11-04T11:02:00Z")
First off is your life so lame you type a novel. Second this is a videogame not a docomentary. The game is fun and as far as I’m concerned this is what war sounded, looked and was like back then. And I’ve watched the History channel on WW1 and there was entire squadrons of black soldiers. Also love how you say I’m not racist then proceed to call Blacks Afroamericans. You’re racist AF. ---
**Author:** ![DALLAS-ak-PEIPER](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dallas-ak-peiper/32/101613_2.png) [@DALLAS-ak-PEIPER](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DALLAS-ak-PEIPER)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 11:05am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/12 "2016-11-04T11:05:00Z")
OP is right, i was very surprise to see black soldier in the german forces, indeed americans were so racist at that time that the almighty “hellfighters” only fought for the french cos american soldiers didn t want to fight with black men… ---
**Author:** ![Pan\_Kalich](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pan_kalich/32/103070_2.png) [@Pan\_Kalich](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Pan_Kalich)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 11:10am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/13 "2016-11-04T11:10:00Z")
> [@ProAssassin2003](#): > > Also love how you say I’m not racist then proceed to call Blacks Afroamericans. You’re racist AF. Oh really, have you bothered to read it all … or even to think about it? Why is that there are no asian or hispanic soldiers represented then, that is not racist ??? … think before write some nonsense like you just did ---
**Author:** ![Cooja89](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/858c86/32.png) [@Cooja89](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Cooja89)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 11:12am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/14 "2016-11-04T11:12:00Z")
Yea. I’d never heard of the Hellfighters before DICE mentioned it, now it’s everywhere and it IS kindof racist. All these special insignias, weapon skins, a PRE-ORDER bonus because there division was black? Wtf is that ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯. ---
**Author:** ![Pan\_Kalich](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pan_kalich/32/103070_2.png) [@Pan\_Kalich](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Pan_Kalich)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 11:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/15 "2016-11-04T11:16:00Z")
> [@Cooja89](#): > > All these special insignias, weapon skins, a PRE-ORDER bonus because there division was black? Wtf is that . I tell you what is that … that is called positive discrimination, where so called anti-racists are actually being racist … lets forget about those other nations who fought there … lets celebrate and promote afroamerican soldiers … mostly ---
**Author:** ![kekcroc](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kekcroc/32/102481_2.png) [@kekcroc](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/kekcroc)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 11:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/16 "2016-11-04T11:16:00Z")
Wasn’t like, .2% of soldiers in the German army of African descent in the way back then? I’m not a historian so it’d be a little pointless for me to offer much more ---
**Author:** ![Cooja89](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/858c86/32.png) [@Cooja89](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Cooja89)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 11:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/17 "2016-11-04T11:19:00Z")
> [@Salty\_Horse\_Meat](#): > > Wasn’t like, .2% of soldiers in the German army of African descent in the way back then? I’m not a historian so it’d be a little pointless for me to offer much more Yes Germany did have foreign legions and they did have colonies in Africa and the Pacific ---
**Author:** ![ProAssassin2003](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/proassassin2003/32/103170_2.png) [@ProAssassin2003](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ProAssassin2003)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 11:22am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/18 "2016-11-04T11:22:00Z")
> [@Pan\_Kalich](#): > > > [@ProAssassin2003](#): > > > > Also love how you say I’m not racist then proceed to call Blacks Afroamericans. You’re racist AF. > > Oh really, have you bothered to read it all … or even to think about it? Why is that there are no asian or hispanic soldiers represented then, that is not racist ??? … think before write some nonsense like you just did Why do you care so much? There is 4 Expansions planned probably with more Regions and battles. I mean its a game bro. Get your prioritys in check. I’m sure the asians and mexicans aren’t giving a crap about it. ---
**Author:** ![HelkPetik](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/helkpetik/32/102190_2.png) [@HelkPetik](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HelkPetik)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 11:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/19 "2016-11-04T11:24:00Z")
It’s not historically inaccurate to have black people fight in the German Empire. What could be called inaccurate is the frenquency of it. No doubt were black soldiers more common in the African campaign of World War 1 but they were not non-existant in the European campaign. Couple of pictures with Afro-Germans fighting for the Weimar Republic during the war. ![File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-R19361,_Deutsch-Ostafrika,_Deutsches_Feldgesch%C3%BCtz.jpg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Askari#/media/File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-R19361,_Deutsch-Ostafrika,_Deutsches_Feldgesch%C3%BCtz.jpg) ![002_elcher_uniform.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/d/7/d78a279e09a29a9cb9e4142251dfaf55e859e9bd.jpeg) ![agroup1qaa1.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/a/2/a26753a4b1c664bcaa05d2c8cec33d58108cd834.jpeg) ![BenAissa.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/a/3/a3e26ac1e4283353660a659d36ffd20ed4897e13.jpeg) Afro-Germans were treated far better under the Weimar Republic than ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ Germany where they pretty much lost all their rights which they enjoyed under the German Empire. Could EA/DICE dial down the frenquency of it to be more accurate? Yes. Is there a reason for doing so though? Not for me, I couldn’t care less if I were controlling a marsian fighting in game. There’s plenty of things that’s far more important that the game is lacking/twisted if you are looking for Battlefield 1 to be as historically accurate as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Cooja89](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/858c86/32.png) [@Cooja89](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Cooja89)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 11:29am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/20 "2016-11-04T11:29:00Z")
> [@Pan\_Kalich](#): > > > [@Cooja89](#): > > > > All these special insignias, weapon skins, a PRE-ORDER bonus because there division was black? Wtf is that . > > I tell you what is that … that is called positive discrimination, where so called anti-racists are actually being racist … lets forget about those other nations who fought there … lets celebrate and promote afroamerican soldiers … mostly I wonder if some could actualy file a lawsuit against DICE/EA for this ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯. Hypothetically, imagine if the Nzee double S division was just a small band of troop no-ones ever heard of that fought 2-3 battles. Now imagine if DICE made a game and promotes the hell out of them because they were all white! That’s racist as ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ and exactly what they’ve done [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633.md?page=2)