# Historical inaccuracy VS Racism VS common sense **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 4, 2016, 10:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633 "2016-11-04T10:28:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Blakkwolfe](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/blakkwolfe/32/101362_2.png) [@Blakkwolfe](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Blakkwolfe)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 12:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/41 "2016-11-04T12:25:00Z")
> [@bulletsearl](#): > > For a game which tries to be as immersive as possible, it would be reasonable to take into account which army is fighting where, and mix the ethnics accordingly. That would be the ONLY solution which would not be racist. > The current method is laughable. Now that I can agree with. ---
**Author:** ![Pan\_Kalich](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pan_kalich/32/103070_2.png) [@Pan\_Kalich](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Pan_Kalich)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 12:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/42 "2016-11-04T12:26:00Z")
> [@M0istGamer](#): > > “colored”… yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh > > if you could go ahead and not use terms from the 1940s that’d be greeaaaaaaaaaat. > Oh and also we’re going to need you to move to the basement. Perhaps it is because at that time they were called like that? Oh and definitely you should move out of your parents basement. ---
**Author:** ![DavTan](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/davtan/32/101656_2.png) [@DavTan](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DavTan)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 12:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/43 "2016-11-04T12:28:00Z")
> [@Pan\_Kalich](#): > > > [@DavTan](#): > > > > I’d just like to point out that the actor who played heimdal Is in fact British not African American so I wouldn’t bang on about inaccuracies if I was you. > > Jesus … that wasnt my point … he was black, wasnt he? So what does black person has anything to do with nordic legends (and pls dont give me that “its a comic you know” crap) Yeah your point was about inaccuracies… I pointed out that you was inaccurate about something… See the connection. Also you do know that the marvel comics that film is based on are also not an accurate depiction of the actual norse pantheon… Dont you?.. See again my point about artistic licence. Also nice to see you avoided my other points. @ LEGIONEOD i actually agree with your points including the thread should not be closed part… But I was only referring to the op,s post, he was the one who first used the term afro American and bought that film up not me and he applied it incorrectly to an actor… Where the whole point of his post is supposed to be about the accuracy of the game and he cannot be accurate himself. ---
**Author:** ![logikwolf87](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@logikwolf87](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/logikwolf87)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 12:29pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/44 "2016-11-04T12:29:00Z")
> [@Kirk40k](#): > > Who really cares about race, it’s just a game. Also I’m from the USMC where we have no race, just different shades of green. It’s about choice and not race. How about let us choose to play as a soldier we identify with and not insert politics in a game just because. ---
**Author:** ![Pan\_Kalich](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pan_kalich/32/103070_2.png) [@Pan\_Kalich](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Pan_Kalich)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 12:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/45 "2016-11-04T12:32:00Z")
> [@Kirk40k](#): > > Who really cares about race, it’s just a game. Also I’m from the USMC where we have no race, just different shades of green. The fact that you dont care about something, does not mean that others also should not care about it. If you are not bothered by this, good for you … but dont force your opinion on others ---
**Author:** ![Kirk40k](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kirk40k/32/102532_2.png) [@Kirk40k](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kirk40k)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 12:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/46 "2016-11-04T12:34:00Z")
> [@logikwolf87](#): > > > [@Kirk40k](#): > > > > Who really cares about race, it’s just a game. Also I’m from the USMC where we have no race, just different shades of green. > > It’s about choice and not race. How about let us choose to play as a soldier we identify with and not insert politics in a game just because. You do also know that in the game there isn’t a single mirror to see your own reflection in, so your race really isn’t to important. It has nothing to do with politicalness, because if DICE wanted to make BF1 feel like WW1 you really wouldn’t care what color of skin was next to you in a trench. When it comes down to Combat I don’t care what color is next to me, be it white, black or zebra stripped. We’ll all fight together and die together the same. ---
**Author:** ![Pan\_Kalich](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pan_kalich/32/103070_2.png) [@Pan\_Kalich](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Pan_Kalich)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 12:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/47 "2016-11-04T12:35:00Z")
> [@Kirk40k](#): > > > [@logikwolf87](#): > > > > > [@Kirk40k](#): > > > > > > Who really cares about race, it’s just a game. Also I’m from the USMC where we have no race, just different shades of green. > > > > It’s about choice and not race. How about let us choose to play as a soldier we identify with and not insert politics in a game just because. > > You do also know that in the game there isn’t a single mirror to see your own reflection in, so your race really isn’t to important. It has nothing to do with politicalness, because if DICE wanted to make BF1 feel like WW1 you really wouldn’t care what color of skin was next to you in a trench. When it comes down to Combat I don’t care what color is next to me, be it white, black or zebra stripped. We’ll all fight together and die together the same. You mean well, but you are missing the point … ---
**Author:** ![logikwolf87](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@logikwolf87](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/logikwolf87)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 12:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/48 "2016-11-04T12:41:00Z")
> [@Kirk40k](#): > > > [@logikwolf87](#): > > > > > [@Kirk40k](#): > > > > > > Who really cares about race, it’s just a game. Also I’m from the USMC where we have no race, just different shades of green. > > > > It’s about choice and not race. How about let us choose to play as a soldier we identify with and not insert politics in a game just because. > > You do also know that in the game there isn’t a single mirror to see your own reflection in, so your race really isn’t to important. It has nothing to do with politicalness, because if DICE wanted to make BF1 feel like WW1 you really wouldn’t care what color of skin was next to you in a trench. When it comes down to Combat I don’t care what color is next to me, be it white, black or zebra stripped. We’ll all fight together and die together the same. Have you even played the game? The soldier screen is like a mirror, and it doesn’t reflect reality and cannot be changed. Get it now? ---
**Author:** ![Phat\_Helmet](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/phat_helmet/32/103118_2.png) [@Phat\_Helmet](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Phat_Helmet)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 12:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/49 "2016-11-04T12:41:00Z")
> [@Blakkwolfe](#): > > > [@bulletsearl](#): > > > > For a game which tries to be as immersive as possible, it would be reasonable to take into account which army is fighting where, and mix the ethnics accordingly. That would be the ONLY solution which would not be racist. > > The current method is laughable. > > Now that I can agree with. Yeah that is reasonable and the direction Dice should have gone. I think the usage of the term “PC” is a natural response to the term “racist” being thrown around usually as a tactic to shut down debate. ---
**Author:** ![Kirk40k](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kirk40k/32/102532_2.png) [@Kirk40k](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kirk40k)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 12:43pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/50 "2016-11-04T12:43:00Z")
> [@logikwolf87](#): > > > [@Kirk40k](#): > > > > > [@logikwolf87](#): > > > > > > > [@Kirk40k](#): > > > > > > > > Who really cares about race, it’s just a game. Also I’m from the USMC where we have no race, just different shades of green. > > > > > > It’s about choice and not race. How about let us choose to play as a soldier we identify with and not insert politics in a game just because. > > > > You do also know that in the game there isn’t a single mirror to see your own reflection in, so your race really isn’t to important. It has nothing to do with politicalness, because if DICE wanted to make BF1 feel like WW1 you really wouldn’t care what color of skin was next to you in a trench. When it comes down to Combat I don’t care what color is next to me, be it white, black or zebra stripped. We’ll all fight together and die together the same. > > Have you even played the game? The soldier screen is like a mirror, and it doesn’t reflect reality and cannot be changed. Get it now? Just like BF1 is a milsim game based on reality..Oh wait it’s not. ---
**Author:** ![kekcroc](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kekcroc/32/102481_2.png) [@kekcroc](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/kekcroc)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 12:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/51 "2016-11-04T12:45:00Z")
> [@Bossman1794](#): > > Can I get a healthy shade of green colour for my Medic please? The achievements of Martians in our society has long gone unnoticed. I think their valour in the face of adversity should be rewarded with a place among the races of the world in this game. Not all aliens are green, you insensitive goof ---
**Author:** ![gena55holio](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@gena55holio](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/gena55holio)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 12:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/52 "2016-11-04T12:51:00Z")
> [@Pan\_Kalich](#): > > DICE/EA … I know that in these days it is very cool to be a “politically correct” and raging against everyone who touches any race in a manner that could be considered “politicaly incorrect” … > > Even though colored fighters were (except few units) rarity for them to be promoted as a soldier on the cover of BF1, I understand you wanted it to push it as some kind of of tribute. No problem, i can live with that. Eventhough I found it kind of silly. > What i find completely insane and pathetic is your attempt to promote it even further by placing black soldiers into German empire army … that is complete and historicaly inaccurate. WHAT THE ACTUAL … > > Now you can call me racist … eventhough I am not. Why you did not put an asian or hispanic soldiers into GE army too … or any other BF1 army for that matter? By promoting one race above others you are actually being racist and positively discriminating others. > > Wake up and stop being politicaly correct (for example like stupid Hollywood movies where there must be an Asian, Hispanic and Afroamerican in every movie … so we had the pleasure to watch Afroamerican Heimdal … and I could go on … it cant get anymore stupid than this) … it makes you look dumb, because in these days noone really care about the race … what I care about is a common sense and twisting the history Op is just a ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ trump supporter dice is pandering to no one but educating the fact half of yall think only whites fought in the war was enough. Tell the truth if it bothers you you are racists you dnt give a crap about history ---
**Author:** ![Phat\_Helmet](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/phat_helmet/32/103118_2.png) [@Phat\_Helmet](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Phat_Helmet)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 12:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/53 "2016-11-04T12:55:00Z")
> [@gena55holio](#): > > > [@Pan\_Kalich](#): > > > > DICE/EA … I know that in these days it is very cool to be a “politically correct” and raging against everyone who touches any race in a manner that could be considered “politicaly incorrect” … > > > > Even though colored fighters were (except few units) rarity for them to be promoted as a soldier on the cover of BF1, I understand you wanted it to push it as some kind of of tribute. No problem, i can live with that. Eventhough I found it kind of silly. > > What i find completely insane and pathetic is your attempt to promote it even further by placing black soldiers into German empire army … that is complete and historicaly inaccurate. WHAT THE ACTUAL … > > > > Now you can call me racist … eventhough I am not. Why you did not put an asian or hispanic soldiers into GE army too … or any other BF1 army for that matter? By promoting one race above others you are actually being racist and positively discriminating others. > > > > Wake up and stop being politicaly correct (for example like stupid Hollywood movies where there must be an Asian, Hispanic and Afroamerican in every movie … so we had the pleasure to watch Afroamerican Heimdal … and I could go on … it cant get anymore stupid than this) … it makes you look dumb, because in these days noone really care about the race … what I care about is a common sense and twisting the history > > Op is just a trump supporter dice is pandering to no one but educating the fact half of yall think only whites fought in the war was enough. Tell the truth if it bothers you you are racists you dnt give a crap about history The fact that you call people racists and Trump supporters is all the ignorance this thread needs. Show us ANYWHERE in this thread where anyone said only white people fought in WWI. ---
**Author:** ![DavTan](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/davtan/32/101656_2.png) [@DavTan](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DavTan)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 12:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/54 "2016-11-04T12:56:00Z")
You gonna ignore my points again op, including the one about your inaccuracy… Did you want a discussion or just a hypocritical rant ---
**Author:** ![crabman169](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crabman169/32/101567_2.png) [@crabman169](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/crabman169)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 12:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/55 "2016-11-04T12:56:00Z")
Grow up. You’re getting triggered over a virtual characters skin pigmentation whilst claiming you’re not a racist. ‘But mah immersion!’ Not even close. If just the colour of a soliders skin is what breaks your ‘immersion’ then you lead a sad and pathetic little life and obviously don’t know anything about the war. Here’s a little fix for you nutters; pretended that solider has just been dug up after being buried from a shell landing nearby and collapsing his dugout. Mud and ash cover him head toe. This is a video game. It’s not a doco and it’s not grounded in total reality. It’s not a history lesson it’s an experience of ww1 in a game environment as a source of entertainment. I’m truely disgusted with everyone here who is triggered by a virtual Afro German. Grow up. ---
**Author:** ![logikwolf87](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@logikwolf87](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/logikwolf87)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 1:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/56 "2016-11-04T13:00:00Z")
> [@Kirk40k](#): > > > [@logikwolf87](#): > > > > > [@Kirk40k](#): > > > > > > > [@logikwolf87](#): > > > > > > > > > [@Kirk40k](#): > > > > > > > > > > Who really cares about race, it’s just a game. Also I’m from the USMC where we have no race, just different shades of green. > > > > > > > > It’s about choice and not race. How about let us choose to play as a soldier we identify with and not insert politics in a game just because. > > > > > > You do also know that in the game there isn’t a single mirror to see your own reflection in, so your race really isn’t to important. It has nothing to do with politicalness, because if DICE wanted to make BF1 feel like WW1 you really wouldn’t care what color of skin was next to you in a trench. When it comes down to Combat I don’t care what color is next to me, be it white, black or zebra stripped. We’ll all fight together and die together the same. > > > > Have you even played the game? The soldier screen is like a mirror, and it doesn’t reflect reality and cannot be changed. Get it now? > > Just like BF1 is a milsim game based on reality..Oh wait it’s not. Funny thing, DICE actually said they want to be as historically accurate as they can in the game. Based on the soldiers looks, german army in WW1 was 25% percent of color. ---
**Author:** ![Pan\_Kalich](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pan_kalich/32/103070_2.png) [@Pan\_Kalich](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Pan_Kalich)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 1:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/57 "2016-11-04T13:01:00Z")
> [@DavTan](#): > > You gonna ignore my points again op, including the one about your inaccuracy… Did you want a discussion or just a hypocritical rant No, sorry, dont want to ignore it … just didnt want to repeat again what I already wrote here. In your case I will make an exception. Fact that it does not bother you does not mean it does not bother somebody else … as such, you cannot force your opinion on others by telling them what they should or should not care about. if I missed any other point you had in mind, please let me know and I will try to answer it to my best abilities ---
**Author:** ![LEGIONEOD](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/43a26b/32.png) [@LEGIONEOD](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LEGIONEOD)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 1:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/58 "2016-11-04T13:03:00Z")
> [@crabman169](#): > > Grow up. > > You’re getting triggered over a virtual characters skin pigmentation whilst claiming you’re not a racist. That doesn’t make him racist. He never said anything offensive or derogatory about blacks. Just because he doesn’t want to play as a black character doesn’t make him racist. ---
**Author:** ![Pan\_Kalich](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pan_kalich/32/103070_2.png) [@Pan\_Kalich](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Pan_Kalich)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 1:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/59 "2016-11-04T13:04:00Z")
> [@crabman169](#): > > Grow up. > > You’re getting triggered over a virtual characters skin pigmentation whilst claiming you’re not a racist. > > Grow up. I am not triggered (whatever you meant by that) … i just find it stupid (if you just pulled your head up from your butt and think about what I wrote, you might get the point) Usualy those ppl who are telling others (on the internet) to grow up, are the ones who actually need that … not to mention as saying it once in one thread would not suffice (and now comes that part when you call me fat kid or something) ---
**Author:** ![Phat\_Helmet](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/phat_helmet/32/103118_2.png) [@Phat\_Helmet](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Phat_Helmet)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 1:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633/60 "2016-11-04T13:04:00Z")
> [@crabman169](#): > > Grow up. > > You’re getting triggered over a virtual characters skin pigmentation whilst claiming you’re not a racist. > > ‘But mah immersion!’ Not even close. If just the colour of a soliders skin is what breaks your ‘immersion’ then you lead a sad and pathetic little life and obviously don’t know anything about the war. > > Here’s a little fix for you nutters; pretended that solider has just been dug up after being buried from a shell landing nearby and collapsing his dugout. Mud and ash cover him head toe. > > This is a video game. It’s not a doco and it’s not grounded in total reality. It’s not a history lesson it’s an experience of ww1 in a game environment as a source of entertainment. > > I’m truely disgusted with everyone here who is triggered by a virtual Afro German. > > Grow up. Not everyone who disagrees with the DEVS choice is a nutter OR triggered or a racist. In-game I barely notice anything about the characters. I’m having too much fun. It’s the blatant pandering and “look world…we made the mostest diversest game ever!” attitude. It’s gag inducing. There was no need for it and it was NOT accidental. Imagine if a dev made a game about African tribal wars and 50% of the soldiers were white? Or if “Shogun: Total War” had Australian soldier fighting in Japan? It’s just not historically accurate. That’s NOT to say this is a history lesson but this cringy grovelling is soooo not necessary. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633.md?page=2) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/historical-inaccuracy-vs-racism-vs-common-sense/102633.md?page=4)