# Hit Detection

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/hit-detection/104273>\
**Category:** Console\
**Created:** [November 14, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/hit-detection/104273 "2016-11-14T17:54:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 84

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**Author:** ![ackers75](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@ackers75](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ackers75)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 9:53am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/hit-detection/104273/1661 "2018-08-05T09:53:00Z")

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> [@Goofy-The-Sc0t](#):
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> Just jumped on for a game for the first time in a while… is the hitreg totally screwed now? Unbelievably bad in the 15mins i could stand to stay on for ☹ Guess my 25 latency is too low seeing as i keep getting shot around corners too…

Yep them bendy bullets are infuriating.  
It won’t change am afraid

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**Author:** ![HillbillyJohn](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hillbillyjohn/32/102209_2.png) [@HillbillyJohn](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HillbillyJohn)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 10:31am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/hit-detection/104273/1662 "2018-08-08T10:31:00Z")

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> [@ackers75](#):
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> > [@Goofy-The-Sc0t](#):
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> > Just jumped on for a game for the first time in a while… is the hitreg totally screwed now? Unbelievably bad in the 15mins i could stand to stay on for ☹ Guess my 25 latency is too low seeing as i keep getting shot around corners too…
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> Yep them bendy bullets are infuriating.  
> It won’t change am afraid

Never thought I’d be saying this but BF4 plays much better than BF1.

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**Author:** ![ackers75](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@ackers75](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ackers75)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/hit-detection/104273/1663 "2018-08-09T00:15:00Z")

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> [@HillbillyJohn](#):
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> > [@ackers75](#):
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> > > [@Goofy-The-Sc0t](#):
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> > > Just jumped on for a game for the first time in a while… is the hitreg totally screwed now? Unbelievably bad in the 15mins i could stand to stay on for ☹ Guess my 25 latency is too low seeing as i keep getting shot around corners too…
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> > Yep them bendy bullets are infuriating.  
> > It won’t change am afraid
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> Never thought I’d be saying this but BF4 plays much better than BF1.

I have gone back to it lol.

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**Author:** ![HillbillyJohn](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hillbillyjohn/32/102209_2.png) [@HillbillyJohn](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HillbillyJohn)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 7:01am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/hit-detection/104273/1664 "2018-08-09T07:01:00Z")

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> [@ackers75](#):
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> > [@HillbillyJohn](#):
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> > > [@ackers75](#):
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> > > > [@Goofy-The-Sc0t](#):
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> > > > Just jumped on for a game for the first time in a while… is the hitreg totally screwed now? Unbelievably bad in the 15mins i could stand to stay on for ☹ Guess my 25 latency is too low seeing as i keep getting shot around corners too…
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> > > Yep them bendy bullets are infuriating.  
> > > It won’t change am afraid
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> > Never thought I’d be saying this but BF4 plays much better than BF1.
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> I have gone back to it lol.

Same here.

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**Author:** ![UrinDenialP](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@UrinDenialP](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/UrinDenialP)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/hit-detection/104273/1665 "2018-08-16T14:35:00Z")

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> [@Goofy-The-Sc0t](#):
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> Just jumped on for a game for the first time in a while… is the hitreg totally screwed now? Unbelievably bad in the 15mins i could stand to stay on for ☹ Guess my 25 latency is too low seeing as i keep getting shot around corners too…

now hat if they were getting that latency figure actually from the start of your WAN ip? and the wan ip was actually closer to the ea servers (in my case 500km closer)?

what effect would this have?  
think about it

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**Author:** ![oJU5T1No](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/a88e57/32.png) [@oJU5T1No](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/oJU5T1No)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/hit-detection/104273/1666 "2018-09-17T19:54:00Z")

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Battlefield 5 is 100 times worse than bf1 netcode wise, they have servers in the UK now where I am so my ping is even lower 12ms-14ms, its completely unplayable on a low ping I had to play on the US servers at 100ms just so it was somewhat playable. If you don’t like the netcode in this game don’t even bother with 5.

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**Author:** ![ackers75](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@ackers75](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ackers75)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/hit-detection/104273/1667 "2018-09-17T22:01:00Z")

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Not played bf1 on console for ages and nothing has changed.

Netcode abysmal!

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**Author:** ![RetroGMR083](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/retrogmr083/32/103263_2.png) [@RetroGMR083](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/RetroGMR083)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2018, 1:47am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/hit-detection/104273/1668 "2018-09-23T01:47:00Z")

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I have this on pc now but I still play on Xbox One X. Today, there were a few times I had someone dead on sniping them and it never hit them!

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**Author:** ![bapman63](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bapman63/32/101289_2.png) [@bapman63](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bapman63)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/hit-detection/104273/1669 "2018-09-29T16:38:00Z")

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Hit detection issues were so kindly introduced by dice in the spring 2017 patch and they have given us great lip service since. It was such a marvelous thing to introduce.

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**Author:** ![digga11](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@digga11](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/digga11)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/hit-detection/104273/1670 "2018-09-29T20:18:00Z")

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It’s the worst it’s ever been right now for sure, out of 10 shots on target your lucky if 6 get registered. Mag dumping.

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**Author:** ![HillbillyJohn](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hillbillyjohn/32/102209_2.png) [@HillbillyJohn](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HillbillyJohn)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 8:20am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/hit-detection/104273/1671 "2018-09-30T08:20:00Z")

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> [@digga11](#):
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> It’s the worst it’s ever been right now for sure, out of 10 shots on target your lucky if 6 get registered. Mag dumping.

Agreed.

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**Author:** ![Str1xt](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Str1xt](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Str1xt)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 3:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/hit-detection/104273/1672 "2018-10-02T15:30:00Z")

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And two years on its the same as day one. I have changed provider 3 times. It’s still the same. I feel every other player has the drop on me. I try to lie down and get out of the way of bullets, but my player keeps popping back up because i’m already dead. fly too close to the ground and you crash into nothing. replay shows you it differently. riding a horse is impossible as jumping a fence is so out of sync. I have a great connection, over the top p c and i have no idea what to do.

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**Author:** ![nbrado](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/nbrado/32/117575_2.png) [@nbrado](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/nbrado)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 1:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/hit-detection/104273/1673 "2018-10-17T13:57:00Z")

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pffffffff I canned this awful game last night when a direct mortar on a horse did NOTHING 😃

_Edited to remove swearing. - EA\_Cian_

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**Author:** ![HUMANFRAIL7Y](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/humanfrail7y/32/102234_2.png) [@HUMANFRAIL7Y](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HUMANFRAIL7Y)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 11:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/hit-detection/104273/1674 "2018-10-22T23:17:00Z")

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I wonder if the hit detection issues many are having may be due to random bullet deviation, spread, or the altered kill trade system instead. I’m not saying it’s not a netcode issue, just wondering if these various factors come to play at all in regards to the poor hit detection that many are facing (including myself).

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**Author:** ![VBALL\_MVP](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/vball_mvp/32/103977_2.png) [@VBALL\_MVP](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VBALL_MVP)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 11:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/hit-detection/104273/1675 "2018-10-22T23:32:00Z")

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> [@StarvingMillions](#):
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> I wonder if the hit detection issues many are having may be due to random bullet deviation, spread, or the altered kill trade system instead. I’m not saying it’s not a netcode issue, just wondering if these various factors come to play at all in regards to the poor hit detection that many are facing (including myself).

Short answer..yes.

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**Author:** ![RRedux](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RRedux](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/RRedux)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/hit-detection/104273/1676 "2018-10-24T17:07:00Z")

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> [@StarvingMillions](#):
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> I wonder if the hit detection issues many are having may be due to random bullet deviation, spread, or the altered kill trade system instead. I’m not saying it’s not a netcode issue, just wondering if these various factors come to play at all in regards to the poor hit detection that many are facing (including myself).

I’d agree that there might be false reports as a result of spread etc, but when you shoot at someone, and get the blood splatter animation because your bullet hit the enemy player model, but you don’t get a hitmarker and have done 0 damage with that shot, it’s a pretty solid indication that the hit detection is failing.

Not to mention the times you seemingly get 1 shot by a weapon that isn’t a 1 shot even with 100% headshot. When that happens, it’s because your position that got predicted by the simulation put you in line of sight of the enemy before the enemy was visually in line of sight of you. Meaning that when you see the enemy, the enemy has already shot you a bunch of times, and all the damage gets counted at once, creating a virtual 1-shot.

I think a dev explained how the system works in this thread: [Hit Detection](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/hit-detection/104273)

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**Author:** ![mudpig44](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/e47774/32.png) [@mudpig44](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mudpig44)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 9:53am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/hit-detection/104273/1677 "2018-12-26T09:53:00Z")

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> [@der\_Metatron](#):
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> Don´t get me wrong, it is the best BF Game since BC2 and I like it a lot, the overall technical experience is pretty good. And I really appreciate the time you take to answer here. Also it is awesome to hear, that you are willing to make improvements to this great game.
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> I made small clip last night wich sums it up pretty good I guess  
> [https://account.xbox.com/de-de/gameclip/dee54156-7a6e-44b8-a541-1c89aed613ff?gamerTag=der Metatron&scid=72010100-7d7f-4105-b34e-3ec552a4c121](https://account.xbox.com/de-de/gameclip/dee54156-7a6e-44b8-a541-1c89aed613ff?gamerTag=der%20Metatron&scid=72010100-7d7f-4105-b34e-3ec552a4c121)
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> The interesting Part is starting at 00:18, before that it is aim on my account.
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> Hunter Model 10 close range Hip fire, that usually is doing the Trick. Enemy gets around the corner, I shoot first (the Animation is there), the shot is a llittle bit off center, but at least should generate some Hit Markers. I am one shotted, due to not being on full Health (wich is fine). Killcam shows that the enemy has still 100 % and THAT should be not possible
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> For me it does not look like problems with damage calculation, rather it looks like he was way more to the left from my point of view. I only cann guess that this had something to do with his client to Server connection wich was not able to send my Client the correct data in time.
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> I only play on EU Servers and I bet if the rentals Servers had any chance of blocking High Pingers or OOR Players the community would appreciate that.
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> As soon as that player left the game “Hit detection” was spot on again.

Clearly you’re taking the pi$$ about this being the best since BC2.  
This game is an absolute disaster. I, like many others, can’t actually get this game to work properly.  
I, like many others, have gone back to playing BF1 and BF4.  
I, like many others, have told friends not to bother buying this game.  
I’m pi$$ed that I pre ordered the deluxe digital download and couldn’t get it to work until everyone else got the standard. Then after the patches it’s just completely terrible and inconsistent gameplay.  
All I want is my money back but we all know that’s not going to happen and I’m stuck with something I can’t get any enjoyment out of.

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**Author:** ![der\_Metatron](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/der_metatron/32/105386_2.png) [@der\_Metatron](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/der_Metatron)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2019, 12:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/hit-detection/104273/1678 "2019-01-07T12:58:00Z")

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> [@mudpig44](#):
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> Clearly you’re taking the pi$$ about this being the best since BC2.  
> This game is an absolute disaster. I, like many others, can’t actually get this game to work properly.  
> I, like many others, have gone back to playing BF1 and BF4.  
> I, like many others, have told friends not to bother buying this game.  
> I’m pi$$ed that I pre ordered the deluxe digital download and couldn’t get it to work until everyone else got the standard. Then after the patches it’s just completely terrible and inconsistent gameplay.  
> All I want is my money back but we all know that’s not going to happen and I’m stuck with something I can’t get any enjoyment out of.

Buddy you are commenting on a BF1 comment I made months ago. BF1 was deinstalled because it played like CoD…

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**Author:** ![skins4ever21](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@skins4ever21](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/skins4ever21)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 8:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/hit-detection/104273/1679 "2019-01-22T20:48:00Z")

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Hit indicator is really busted right now. Things like busted sound (footsteps), busted hit indicators, and busted hit markers are all big problems and all are found in this game. I have video clips where I clearly get headshot with krag and it didn’t kill them.. I get color of headshot and sound also makes headshot sound but don’t get the kill. That has happened about 5x over last week.

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**Author:** ![Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rev0verDrive)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/hit-detection/104273/1680 "2019-02-07T23:08:00Z")

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> [@skins4ever21](#):
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> Hit indicator is really busted right now. Things like busted sound (footsteps), busted hit indicators, and busted hit markers are all big problems and all are found in this game. I have video clips where I clearly get headshot with krag and it didn’t kill them.. I get color of headshot and sound also makes headshot sound but don’t get the kill. That has happened about 5x over last week.

Whether a hit is authenticated is dependent on it hitting in the servers simulation. It is the authority in all aspects. What you and I see of other players is delayed. I really wish you people would come to terms with that. Your ping and your opponents ping determine the age of what you are seeing on screen. Hit detection is based on what the server knows. Not what you see.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkos9vRcZKY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkos9vRcZKY)

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