Because it’s Hamada. You need a passport to travel across the bridge and I’m not doing it even if you kill me 5 times. Try and do that on any other map. And you’re trying too hard to lessen the impact of this spotting bug/feature issue and highlight recon spotting and teammates making callouts which are both much much less prevalent (Not to mention the latter doesnt result in 2d minimap spotting).
The minimap has been lighting up like a Christmas tree since this game released… and you’re saying its recon spotting? Come on… There are so many contrarian carls on these forums if we surveyed here there would likely be more believers in flat earth here than there would be in the general population. You’re saying people are ignoring points they disagree with. Not true. They ignore points that are illogical, that don’t jive with reality.
There is a problem. A spotting plague. There are giant threads on Reddit about it and this one.
I was playing a game o Hamada earlier and this scout sat at this far away tower spotting the whole enemy team while we captured a point. They had no chance.
And it shows how scouts can help with the objectives even though I’m completely against any type of spotting.
We do know why it is in the game because the Devs said why its in the game. It was intentional at one point and they decided against it but then forgot to remove it.
Call outs in this game are not what they were in previous battlefields. This isn’t the same situation where you can just sit there and watch the red outline and tell your friend exactly where the enemy is. You see who killed you for a very brief moment in the kill cam and if you miss it or can’t make sense of it you are out of luck. I play with friends on comms and in BF1 you could tell them where the person that killed you was with pinpoint accuracy. In this game its a lot of “I think”. “I think he got me from behind that tree”, “I think he was in that building on the left”.
The only thing is why no announcement for the patch tomorrow? I mean Florian said there will be a patch tomorrow to fix this. But usually we have Mitre put up a thread about a patch the day before.
Can you provide credible backup for the claim that players alerting their squad mates to your location when you kill them is “much less prevalent”? Is there hard data somewhere showing how many players die because their tracers gave them away or whatever? No? So you’re assuming that it’s the minimap spot that’s almost always responsible. You’re smart enough to run the tape (to use an old tournament paintball expression) and flank the other team, but they’re not smart enough to figure out what you’ve done and go looking for you based on the sound of your shots, your visible tracers, reports from teammates, recon spotting and so on, it’s all because of a little red dot that briefly appears on the map. Naturally anyone who doesn’t buy your unsupported claim clearly believes the earth is flat because how else could anyone not agree with you? Of course sometimes it’s that minimap spot, I’m not denying that, but neither of us knows how often that is the explanation rather than all the other ways your opponents could know where you are. The difference is I’m not pretending I know how often that spot is responsible for my deaths, and you are. In any event this feature/bug is going away according to DICE.
I played for a couple of hours earlier and the game is so much different with this “feature” gone. Its actually kind of amazing how many people must have been watching the map pre patch. Today I felt like a ninja and I survived so many situations that I would have died in yesterday and it kind of blows my mind. I felt fairly confident that this was a problem but it was definitely good to have the game play out differently.
A couple of good examples.
I was on the C flag of Fjell on the E flag side. There were about 10 of the enemy coming from E to C and I was in the first house with three of the four walls and roof broken down. There was only one wood wall between them and I. I knew they were there but they didn’t know I was there and kept peeking and taking them out but not one of them immediately looked around the wall and killed me like they would have yesterday.
I was on the A flag on Twisted Steel heading up to the bridge and two to three squads were pouring off the bridge down to A. They all were filtering past me and I was killing them as they ran down the hill away from me. I got 4-5 of them before one ran into me and then realized I was there. No one else even turned around on their team to see why they were dying.
The game just feels different. You can work your way toward an objective killing from cover to cover and not have to worry about getting wall hacked.