# How about a no scope bolt action as an all kit weapon?

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**Created:** [June 13, 2016, 4:52am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-about-a-no-scope-bolt-action-as-an-all-kit-weapon/101888 "2016-06-13T04:52:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![ilikem14](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/aeb1de/32.png) [@ilikem14](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ilikem14)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 4:52am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-about-a-no-scope-bolt-action-as-an-all-kit-weapon/101888/1 "2016-06-13T04:52:00Z")

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Maybe carbine versions of bolt actions for all kit such as the Karbiner98a or the mosin nagant 1907 carbine with just iron sights?

Bolt actions were the predominant weapon of ww1 and should be more available than just to the sniper.

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**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 5:13am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-about-a-no-scope-bolt-action-as-an-all-kit-weapon/101888/2 "2016-06-13T05:13:00Z")

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> [@ilikem14](#):
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> Bolt actions were the predominant weapon of ww1 and should be more available than just to the sniper.

Not in a game you don’t want to be monotonous and slow as hell.

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**Author:** ![wildcardx](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/e19adc/32.png) [@wildcardx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/wildcardx)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 6:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-about-a-no-scope-bolt-action-as-an-all-kit-weapon/101888/3 "2016-06-13T06:19:00Z")

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I was hoping for mostly Bolt action rifles. Loqtrall, If you had played COD:UO or even RO2 you would know that comment is silly.

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**Author:** ![XxHappyChefxX](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/xxhappychefxx/32/104151_2.png) [@XxHappyChefxX](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/XxHappyChefxX)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 6:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-about-a-no-scope-bolt-action-as-an-all-kit-weapon/101888/4 "2016-06-13T06:28:00Z")

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> [@ilikem14](#):
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> Maybe carbine versions of bolt actions for all kit such as the Karbiner98a or the mosin nagant 1907 carbine with just iron sights?
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> Bolt actions were the predominant weapon of ww1 and should be more available than just to the sniper.

Im no history guru but the K98 wasn’t invented yet but I would agree that bolt actions should be for every class.

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**Author:** ![Bush\_Kangaroo74](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f0a364/32.png) [@Bush\_Kangaroo74](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Bush_Kangaroo74)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 7:02am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-about-a-no-scope-bolt-action-as-an-all-kit-weapon/101888/5 "2016-06-13T07:02:00Z")

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How about a no scope bolt action as an all kit weapon?

Yeah baby.. sweat.. loving it..

I been doing some looking around on forums, fb , ect… And hard core BF players and newbie’s to bf are all saying the some thing ;- no scope bolt action for all classes…

I say this may happen when the game come’s out…

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**Author:** ![ImBeauski](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/a183cd/32.png) [@ImBeauski](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ImBeauski)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 7:11am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-about-a-no-scope-bolt-action-as-an-all-kit-weapon/101888/6 "2016-06-13T07:11:00Z")

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> [@XxHappyChefxX](#):
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> > [@ilikem14](#):
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> > Maybe carbine versions of bolt actions for all kit such as the Karbiner98a or the mosin nagant 1907 carbine with just iron sights?
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> > Bolt actions were the predominant weapon of ww1 and should be more available than just to the sniper.
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> Im no history guru but the K98 wasn’t invented yet but I would agree that bolt actions should be for every class.

The Kar 98a was, the Kar 98k is the standard German service rifle of WWII.

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**Author:** ![MartinBabl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@MartinBabl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MartinBabl)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 7:18am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-about-a-no-scope-bolt-action-as-an-all-kit-weapon/101888/7 "2016-06-13T07:18:00Z")

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I feel that these weapons should also have a small degree of inaccuracy. The automatic rifles should be more inaccurate than their bolt action variants. This will insure balance. Automatic rifles can shoot a number of rounds in a general direction and the bolt action rifles can shoot one much more accurate round.

We don’t want everyone running around with automatic rifles like it is in COD or in Battlefield 4.

Let us do justice to the era in which the game is based.

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**Author:** ![KUNGpowCHICKEN23](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KUNGpowCHICKEN23](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KUNGpowCHICKEN23)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 7:20am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-about-a-no-scope-bolt-action-as-an-all-kit-weapon/101888/8 "2016-06-13T07:20:00Z")

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> [@MartinBabl](#):
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> I feel that these weapons should also have a small degree of inaccuracy. The automatic rifles should be more inaccurate than their bolt action variants. This will insure balance. Automatic rifles can shoot a number of rounds in a general direction and the bolt action rifles can shoot one much more accurate round.
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> We don’t want everyone running around with automatic rifles like it is in COD or in Battlefield 4.
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> Let us do justice to the era in which the game is based.

This.

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**Author:** ![CH1R0N83](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ch1r0n83/32/101488_2.png) [@CH1R0N83](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CH1R0N83)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 8:13am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-about-a-no-scope-bolt-action-as-an-all-kit-weapon/101888/9 "2016-06-13T08:13:00Z")

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Agreed. One of the things that disappointed me about the live stream was that nobody seemed to by using a ‘true’ ww1 rifle ( snipers aside obviously).

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**Author:** ![khalid\_kib](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/khalid_kib/32/102496_2.png) [@khalid\_kib](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/khalid_kib)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 8:15am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-about-a-no-scope-bolt-action-as-an-all-kit-weapon/101888/10 "2016-06-13T08:15:00Z")

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How about we add 360 no scope get rekt mechanics too?

0/10 troll. No Dice.

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**Author:** ![jsrgfhjxfzd](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/ecccb3/32.png) [@jsrgfhjxfzd](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/jsrgfhjxfzd)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 2:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-about-a-no-scope-bolt-action-as-an-all-kit-weapon/101888/11 "2016-06-13T14:14:00Z")

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> [@XxHappyChefxX](#):
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> > [@ilikem14](#):
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> > Maybe carbine versions of bolt actions for all kit such as the Karbiner98a or the mosin nagant 1907 carbine with just iron sights?
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> > Bolt actions were the predominant weapon of ww1 and should be more available than just to the sniper.
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> Im no history guru but the K98 wasn’t invented yet but I would agree that bolt actions should be for every class.

The karabiner was the standard isseu weapon for the german army in the world war

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**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 2:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-about-a-no-scope-bolt-action-as-an-all-kit-weapon/101888/12 "2016-06-13T14:38:00Z")

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> [@wildcardx](#):
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> I was hoping for mostly Bolt action rifles. Loqtrall, If you had played COD:UO or even RO2 you would know that comment is silly.

I’ve played both (actually regularly play RO2) - CoD:UO was only quicker because the maps weren’t HUGE - CoD and Battlefield are two different beasts and always have been.

Also, the ONLY SOLE reason RO:2 isn’t as slow as BF1 would be if it featured all-class bolt-actions is because it’s main gametype is an extremely time-sensitive “Rush” type gamemode. You either rush the objective to cap in time, or you lose because time runs out. They also have an extremely low reinforcement wave number.

If RO:2 had a 64-person Conquest mode like Battlefield, it would be incredibly campy (as RO2 already is) and gameplay would slow down SIGNIFICANTLY.

I hate when people use the RO2 comparison in these situations, absolutely ignoring that RO2 plays nothing like Battlefield.

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**Author:** ![ilikem14](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/aeb1de/32.png) [@ilikem14](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ilikem14)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 3:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-about-a-no-scope-bolt-action-as-an-all-kit-weapon/101888/13 "2016-06-13T15:06:00Z")

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> [@XxHappyChefxX](#):
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> > [@ilikem14](#):
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> > Maybe carbine versions of bolt actions for all kit such as the Karbiner98a or the mosin nagant 1907 carbine with just iron sights?
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> > Bolt actions were the predominant weapon of ww1 and should be more available than just to the sniper.
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> Im no history guru but the K98 wasn’t invented yet but I would agree that bolt actions should be for every class.

The predesessor to the kar98k was the kar98a used in ww1 by artillery crews and pilots

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**Author:** ![XxHappyChefxX](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/xxhappychefxx/32/104151_2.png) [@XxHappyChefxX](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/XxHappyChefxX)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 3:47pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-about-a-no-scope-bolt-action-as-an-all-kit-weapon/101888/14 "2016-06-13T15:47:00Z")

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> [@ilikem14](#):
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> > [@XxHappyChefxX](#):
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> > > [@ilikem14](#):
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> > > Maybe carbine versions of bolt actions for all kit such as the Karbiner98a or the mosin nagant 1907 carbine with just iron sights?
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> > > Bolt actions were the predominant weapon of ww1 and should be more available than just to the sniper.
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> > Im no history guru but the K98 wasn’t invented yet but I would agree that bolt actions should be for every class.
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> The predesessor to the kar98k was the kar98a used in ww1 by artillery crews and pilots

Thanks for the knowledge. Im too American to think the kar98ka could come before the kar98 lol. It sounds as weird as m16a1 before m16

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**Author:** ![HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HaveThisRocket)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-about-a-no-scope-bolt-action-as-an-all-kit-weapon/101888/15 "2016-06-13T16:00:00Z")

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There is no way the game doesnt have a non-scoped bolt action rifle.That’s the entire reason some people want a WW1 game

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**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 4:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-about-a-no-scope-bolt-action-as-an-all-kit-weapon/101888/16 "2016-06-13T16:02:00Z")

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> [@HaveThisRocket](#):
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> There is no way the game doesnt have a non-scoped bolt action rifle.That’s the entire reason some people want a WW1 game

Well there will be the ability to take the scope off of a bolt-action rifle - but the weapon system overall is limited to the scout class.
