You only need to Google Trench Warfare to find out what it really means, and as you and I know it had nothing to do with fighting in trenches. Sad that so many people have a completely ignorant view of WW1 and make no effort to learn any different. L0ngstrike, I give you 3/10 for historical accuracy
If you can’t see how they shoe-horned in the Battlefield 4 class/weapon system and the Star Wars Battlefront Customization System at the expense of historical, turn-of-the-century arms, then there’s no point in arguing.
Anyone can look at a picture and duplicate it. Think outside of graphics for once.
But this game is nothing like either of those. See the many ‘I’m going back to BF4’ threads if you don’t agree. I’m not sure how you’re even comparing it to Battlefront … like using a blaster is the same as a bolt action sniper rifle? What? I’m not even sure how you’re seeing AT-STs striding across Hoth in Battlefront and comparing that to a WW1 landship in BF1.
It’s a shooter, essentially your main complaint is that you shoot a variety of guns at people in this one and also in those other two, so it’s a copy & paste? Even BF4 and Battlefront are nothing like each other, but somehow they put those two different games into this one game, so essentially BF1 is 3 games in one, but it’s still only a copy & paste of the others. What? I can feel a headache coming … lol
If you want to continue ignoring what I typed and making more and more Strawman arguments, please do.
Stop thinking graphics. Just stop. If you can’t see how the class and customization mechanics (or templates) are coming from their respective games and how incongruent they are to turn-of-the-century arms/WWI (the actual WWI, not the quasi-non-French-non-Russian one) then there’s no point in you posting this drivel.
I notice you are following a trend common in people who can’t substantiate what they are saying. Ignore everything, answer nothing, suggest the other person doesn’t understand, provide no evidence of what they are supposed to understand. Lots of noise, no substance. Give an example rather than trying to create a ‘the other person doesn’t understand’ smokecreen.
All games share mechanics. Baldurs Gate and Dragon Age: Inquisition share mechanics. I think you’ve got snagged on that point like a World War 1 soldier snagged on some barbed wire, and you’re going to run with it even when it no longer makes any sense (which was about 2 posts ago, for the record).
You go for it, lol
You clearly don’t understand the point if you go off on complete tangents to try and make your argument more credible.
Baldur’s Gate and Dragon Age are both fantasy RPG’s. WWI and the Modern Era are not, so you shouldn’t see Light Machine Guns (or DICE’s interpretation) or an entire class based on automatics during an era that was barely using technologies such as barrel rifling. You shouldn’t see an armored Zepplin (biggest Oxy-moron ever) sitting in the sky. I could go on with examples, but I feel like that would just go straight over your head.
And another clerical point; who the hell makes a WWI themed game with no French or Russians out of the box? Are you this willfully blind?
Well no wonder you have issues with the game. You just proved beyond all doubt you know nothing about WW1. Literally everything you just listed is complete rubbish. A quick Google search would tell you that. Watching the entire series of World War 1 Apocalypse documentaries like I did last month would tell you that. Looking at some photos from the war would tell you that. I won’t argue with someone so utterly ignorant of the facts. I do finally understand what your problem is at least, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Educate yourself.
You’re completely blind. DICE must not do any wrong in your eyes. You are utterly, truly beyond help if you think this BF1 garbage is anywhere historical outside of copying during and post war weapons and taking a few pictures.
Have fun playing your WWI WITHOUT the French and Russians.
And when the French and Russian expansion comes out? What then?
Your point is shrinking faster than your knowledge of World War 1
Funny how quickly the bitter, lying, ranting hater came out once someone challenged your ‘facts’. Don’t dress it all up next time, just admit you don’t like DICE or the game and go and make one of those ragey threads that usually gets locked by a Mod. That’s obviously more your true style.
It a great game dont get me wrong but not very accurate in some parts but they sort of get away with it basing the game in 1918.
@InqusitorLorne dont try and explain it if they dont get what you mean they never will. What you should of said is its basically a WWII game with a WWI skin.
Some of the weapons in game didnt actually see combat until the last few months of the war, hence the year the game is set in.
Alot of weapons were made back then but only about 1-3% ever got to the war because they were unreliable. LMGs were never really in the fights, they were either fix mounted in nests or you had to lie down to even shoot the thing. SMGs never really made it to the war until WWII and even then there werent that many of them.
To make it alot more historically accurate they should of made the main weapon in all classes infantry rifles and kept the smg/lmgs as later unlocks and not many variants of them.
Squad leaders/Officers in the Great War were armed with a pistol, sword or baton and a whistle.
There was a bit of trench fighting, they even invented rilfe mounts to shoot out of the trenches. The trenches in game dont even have steps to look over or to get out of them.
Thank you. At least some people aren’t completely oblivious.
How can you have a game without them? Seriously?
And you didn’t challenge anything, just made Strawman arguments. You clearly get all your historical info from the game and that is that. Just admit that DICE can do no wrong and throw money at them…
Think you’re giving him too much credit, don’t make that mistake, I did. It’s the only reason I replied to him in the first place. He just called the game garbage. It’s a shame he initially disguised his hate for DICE and the game under the smokescreen of historical accuracy.
You on the other hand make some fair points about quantities and availability, but they still haven’t added anything that didn’t exist. As a game, you can’t say one guy in every 32 squad can have an MP18. You’ve either got to include them or not. Once you include them, the limitations of the medium mean you can’t reflect the quantities or how common they were.
Think for that reason it’s important to judge only what it’s possible for a game to accurately reflect keeping in mind the limitations that a game naturally imposes, especially when it is an FPS, not a military sim.
I only understand what he is trying to say and most of what he is going on about i dont really care about that much and i understand why they are in game. I love the game im having heaps of fun but i really really think being a WWI game that the infantry rifles should be in all classes.
DICE got away with the guns in game by making it based in 1918, smart if you think about it but they should of still given every class infantry rifles.
Historically, the MP follows no time line, just uses settings and available weapons from the, now, pay attention here…
THE WORLD WAR ONE ERA
That being said, DICE has a huge palatte of weapons, factions, settings, and vehicles to play with.
If they wanted historical accuracy, pretty much everyone would have identical load outs depending on faction, forget classes, tanks for Germany, balance and fun.
DICE gives little blurbs during the FIFTEEN minute loading screens that contain facts from the era.
It’s up to the individual to use the vast resources of today to educate themselves.
Lol realism, black German cavalrymen and snipers, that never existed in this time period, inserted against all historical record, disgraceful pandering.
Actually i think historical revisionism with a political multiculturalist liberal agenda being passed of as accurate history, should garner minus points for anti-realism.
At least they didn’t impalement female soldiers like the stupid SJW’s wanted to even inside DICE.
That would of been one of the greatest disrespects to the great war of all.
