# How does Battlefield 4 compare to Battlefield 2, ARMA series, and other realism milsim games? Is BF4 more like Call of Duty? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 1, 2013, 6:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-does-battlefield-4-compare-to-battlefield-2-arma-series-and-other-realism-milsim-games-is-bf4-more-like-call-of-duty/110356 "2013-12-01T18:09:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![apestate](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/48db29/32.png) [@apestate](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/apestate)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 6:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-does-battlefield-4-compare-to-battlefield-2-arma-series-and-other-realism-milsim-games-is-bf4-more-like-call-of-duty/110356/1 "2013-12-01T18:09:38Z")
I used to play Battlefield 1942, Battlefield Vietnam, and Battlefield 2, because when those games were out they were quite ground breaking and offered the most realistic and fun open-world milsim combat. In my humble estimation, Call of Duty is the arcade version of that. I’ve seen gameplay of some COD title or another, and tried to play Bad Company 3 which struck me as another fast running, arcade style, spawn and talk shit with teenagers piece of fluff. What’s Battlefield 4 really like? ---
**Author:** ![ricopicouk](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/e47c2d/32.png) [@ricopicouk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ricopicouk)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 6:37pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-does-battlefield-4-compare-to-battlefield-2-arma-series-and-other-realism-milsim-games-is-bf4-more-like-call-of-duty/110356/2 "2013-12-01T18:37:26Z")
It would be wrong to say that bf4 isn’t more of the same shoot-em-up action, because the majority of the maps and game modes are designed to encourage that. However bf4 also offers larger games maps, mostly in conquest game mode which offers multiple vehicles and paths around the map which offers game play much in line with bf 1942. ---
**Author:** ![wabbiteh](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@wabbiteh](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/wabbiteh)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 8:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-does-battlefield-4-compare-to-battlefield-2-arma-series-and-other-realism-milsim-games-is-bf4-more-like-call-of-duty/110356/3 "2013-12-01T20:40:15Z")
Not quite the silliness of CoD, but it’s pretty silly. I’m not sure there’s a decent way of making a BattlefieldIf you’re looking for realism, I’d suggest looking elsewhere. Project Reality or ARMA. ---
**Author:** ![MaddogCRO](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@MaddogCRO](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MaddogCRO)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 8:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-does-battlefield-4-compare-to-battlefield-2-arma-series-and-other-realism-milsim-games-is-bf4-more-like-call-of-duty/110356/4 "2013-12-01T20:42:56Z")
It is worst BF ever IMO. And I played all from 1942. the most “realistic” bf is still bf3 ---
**Author:** ![apestate](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/48db29/32.png) [@apestate](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/apestate)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 8:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-does-battlefield-4-compare-to-battlefield-2-arma-series-and-other-realism-milsim-games-is-bf4-more-like-call-of-duty/110356/5 "2013-12-01T20:45:50Z")
right on. I’ve been playing ARMA 3 since it’s official release and I’m blown away, but I see videos of Battlefield 4 that look incredible. Plain vanilla ARMA 3 is pretty basic in terms of variety and knock-out spectacle. ---
**Author:** ![juggalo122390](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/ecd19e/32.png) [@juggalo122390](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/juggalo122390)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 10:52pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-does-battlefield-4-compare-to-battlefield-2-arma-series-and-other-realism-milsim-games-is-bf4-more-like-call-of-duty/110356/6 "2013-12-01T22:52:23Z")
I need to know how you’ve played bad company 3 already. Are you from the future? ---
**Author:** ![apestate](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/48db29/32.png) [@apestate](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/apestate)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 1:23am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-does-battlefield-4-compare-to-battlefield-2-arma-series-and-other-realism-milsim-games-is-bf4-more-like-call-of-duty/110356/7 "2013-12-02T01:23:04Z")
oh, thanks for pointing that out. it was BF: BC2 ---
**Author:** ![k1ckstand](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/e495f1/32.png) [@k1ckstand](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/k1ckstand)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2013, 1:29am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-does-battlefield-4-compare-to-battlefield-2-arma-series-and-other-realism-milsim-games-is-bf4-more-like-call-of-duty/110356/8 "2013-12-03T01:29:43Z")
Can you elaborate on why you think it’s the worst? ---
**Author:** ![MaddogCRO](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@MaddogCRO](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MaddogCRO)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2013, 9:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-does-battlefield-4-compare-to-battlefield-2-arma-series-and-other-realism-milsim-games-is-bf4-more-like-call-of-duty/110356/9 "2013-12-03T09:24:56Z")
Vehicle balance, design of the maps, weapons are too equal, smart weapons do not make sense, ranking system, progress system and add all technical problems to that and you have one very bad product ---
**Author:** ![WRXW](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/58956e/32.png) [@WRXW](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/WRXW)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2013, 4:55am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-does-battlefield-4-compare-to-battlefield-2-arma-series-and-other-realism-milsim-games-is-bf4-more-like-call-of-duty/110356/10 "2013-12-05T04:55:52Z")
My go-to is 64 player hardcore conquest large, and it certainly is evocative of BF2 in some ways in that scenario. The shooting is certainly tighter though. ---
**Author:** ![tacoman8200](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/dbc845/32.png) [@tacoman8200](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/tacoman8200)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 7:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-does-battlefield-4-compare-to-battlefield-2-arma-series-and-other-realism-milsim-games-is-bf4-more-like-call-of-duty/110356/11 "2013-12-11T19:57:30Z")
What do you mean by the smart weapons? ---
**Author:** ![MaddogCRO](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@MaddogCRO](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MaddogCRO)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 9:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-does-battlefield-4-compare-to-battlefield-2-arma-series-and-other-realism-milsim-games-is-bf4-more-like-call-of-duty/110356/12 "2013-12-11T21:11:45Z")
basically weapons and gadgets that do not require any skill or effort whatsoever: mbt law, active radar, airburst, Active protection I think that ruined the game and made it too noob friendly ---
**Author:** ![tacoman8200](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/dbc845/32.png) [@tacoman8200](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/tacoman8200)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 9:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-does-battlefield-4-compare-to-battlefield-2-arma-series-and-other-realism-milsim-games-is-bf4-more-like-call-of-duty/110356/13 "2013-12-11T21:30:45Z")
Active protection is bullshit, I know there is a real thing but it only protects against things like rpgs not a 30mm burst from an a10. ---
**Author:** ![UpSiize](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/d2c977/32.png) [@UpSiize](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/UpSiize)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 12:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-does-battlefield-4-compare-to-battlefield-2-arma-series-and-other-realism-milsim-games-is-bf4-more-like-call-of-duty/110356/14 "2013-12-16T00:19:59Z")
Its now my primary fps on ps4. Def not anything like cod. I think its the most realistic bf so far. Mounted guns are UP tho.