# How to Balance/Fix Jets

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 31, 2013, 4:53am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614 "2013-10-31T04:53:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SLAP-Darknezz](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@SLAP-Darknezz](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SLAP-Darknezz)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 10:29pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/321 "2013-12-17T22:29:00Z")

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> > > > > > jets are bad, if you fly jets you should commit sudoku. golden doesnt know what he is talking about.
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> > > > > One does not &amp;amp;amp;quot;commit&amp;amp;amp;quot; Sudoku because it is a game of math
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> > > > Surprisingly math is my favorite subject next to studying pornographic anime.
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> > Says the guy who hunts for children with a rented dirty ice cream truck.
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> How is that nerdy? You make no sense

I am talking about that night where you secretly observed me from your ice cream truck. What, you thought I wouldn’t notice those dirty eyes glaring at me?

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**Author:** ![Neo2450](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Neo2450](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Neo2450)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2013, 1:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/322 "2013-12-18T13:28:00Z")

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“Oh, jets are supposed to die from a single bullet. A single bullet can set a jet on fire.” Once such a sentence was uttered by a jet hater.  
I disagree and so does this F-15:

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk1KBQ96\_DI](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk1KBQ96_DI)

[[youtube.com](http://youtube.com)]

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**Author:** ![Bfizzle62](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Bfizzle62](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Bfizzle62)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 2:54am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/323 "2013-12-19T02:54:00Z")

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> > > > > > > jets are bad, if you fly jets you should commit sudoku. golden doesnt know what he is talking about.
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> > > > > > One does not &amp;amp;amp;amp;quot;commit&amp;amp;amp;amp;quot; Sudoku because it is a game of math
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> > How is that nerdy? You make no sense
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> I am talking about that night where you secretly observed me from your ice cream truck. What, you thought I wouldn’t notice those dirty eyes glaring at me?

Maybe I WANTED you to see!

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**Author:** ![SLAP-Darknezz](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@SLAP-Darknezz](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SLAP-Darknezz)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 4:57am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/324 "2013-12-19T04:57:00Z")

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> _Neo2450 said:_  
> "Oh, jets are supposed to die from a single bullet. A single bullet can set a jet on fire." Once such a sentence was uttered by a jet hater.  
> I disagree and so does this F-15:
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk1KBQ96\_DI](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk1KBQ96_DI)
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> [[youtube.com](http://youtube.com)]

The F-15 has been know to be a godlike fighter jet. I am serious they just won’t blow up.

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**Author:** ![GhostsofRazgriz1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/db5fbb/32.png) [@GhostsofRazgriz1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GhostsofRazgriz1)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 6:04am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/325 "2013-12-19T06:04:00Z")

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> > &quot;Oh, jets are supposed to die from a single bullet. A single bullet can set a jet on fire.&quot; Once such a sentence was uttered by a jet hater.  
> > I disagree and so does this F-15:
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> > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk1KBQ96\_DI](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk1KBQ96_DI)
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> > [[youtube.com](http://youtube.com)]
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> The F-15 has been know to be a godlike fighter jet. I am serious they just won’t blow up.

He was a fighter pilot they called SoloWingPixy

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**Author:** ![SLAP-Darknezz](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@SLAP-Darknezz](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SLAP-Darknezz)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 7:48am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/326 "2013-12-19T07:48:00Z")

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> > > &amp;quot;Oh, jets are supposed to die from a single bullet. A single bullet can set a jet on fire.&amp;quot; Once such a sentence was uttered by a jet hater.  
> > > I disagree and so does this F-15:
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> > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk1KBQ96\_DI](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk1KBQ96_DI)
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> > The F-15 has been know to be a godlike fighter jet. I am serious they just won’t blow up.
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> He was a fighter pilot they called SoloWingPixy

I read that about Pixy. Never knew about that till I read the wiki about 6 days ago lol.

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**Author:** ![Tunnelrat2k](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@Tunnelrat2k](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Tunnelrat2k)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 8:21am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/327 "2013-12-19T08:21:00Z")

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> > > > &amp;amp;quot;Oh, jets are supposed to die from a single bullet. A single bullet can set a jet on fire.&amp;amp;quot; Once such a sentence was uttered by a jet hater.  
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> > > The F-15 has been know to be a godlike fighter jet. I am serious they just won’t blow up.
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> I read that about Pixy. Never knew about that till I read the wiki about 6 days ago lol.

I hope the reading is for enjoyment and not stored as factual. You do know pixysolowing aka Larry “pixy” Faulke is a fictional person right?

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**Author:** ![GhostsofRazgriz1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/db5fbb/32.png) [@GhostsofRazgriz1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GhostsofRazgriz1)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 11:12am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/328 "2013-12-19T11:12:00Z")

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> > > > > &amp;amp;amp;quot;Oh, jets are supposed to die from a single bullet. A single bullet can set a jet on fire.&amp;amp;amp;quot; Once such a sentence was uttered by a jet hater.  
> > > > > I disagree and so does this F-15:
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> > > > The F-15 has been know to be a godlike fighter jet. I am serious they just won’t blow up.
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> I hope the reading is for enjoyment and not stored as factual. You do know pixysolowing aka Larry "pixy" Faulke is a fictional person right?

What was meant to be humor has gotten way too real :[

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**Author:** ![MinSSJ3](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/8491ac/32.png) [@MinSSJ3](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MinSSJ3)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 11:15am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/329 "2013-12-19T11:15:00Z")

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I want a Gleipnir and Aigaion to be usable commander assets.

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**Author:** ![GhostsofRazgriz1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/db5fbb/32.png) [@GhostsofRazgriz1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GhostsofRazgriz1)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 2:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/330 "2013-12-19T14:05:00Z")

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No, a Stonehenge you can man.

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**Author:** ![Bfizzle62](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Bfizzle62](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Bfizzle62)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 4:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/331 "2013-12-19T16:30:00Z")

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20mm should do 45 damage to infantry  
25mm should do 55 damage to infantry  
30mm should do 60 damage to infantry

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**Author:** ![Russians\_Win](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/d26b3c/32.png) [@Russians\_Win](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Russians_Win)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 4:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/332 "2013-12-19T16:39:00Z")

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Actually rocket pods are great for me, I get plenty of kills with them. Not sure how u say there inaccurate. All u need to do is make sure your target is in the middle of the circle reticule

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**Author:** ![Velocity\_RaptorC](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/b19c9b/32.png) [@Velocity\_RaptorC](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Velocity_RaptorC)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 5:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/333 "2013-12-19T17:35:00Z")

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> 20mm should do 45 damage to infantry  
> 25mm should do 55 damage to infantry  
> 30mm should do 60 damage to infantry

this would work. and per round, all the cannons of all vehicles needs a buff. and limited ammo needs to be removed.

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**Author:** ![Bfizzle62](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Bfizzle62](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Bfizzle62)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 6:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/334 "2013-12-19T18:41:00Z")

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> > 20mm should do 45 damage to infantry  
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> this would work. and per round, all the cannons of all vehicles needs a buff. and limited ammo needs to be removed.

As for vehicles I would say

20mm does 3 damage per bullet to aircraft, 2 to transport heli, 1 damage to armor  
25mm does 4 damage per bullet to aircraft, 3 to transport heli, 1.5 damage to armor  
30mm does 5 damage per bullet to aircraft, 4 to transport heli, 2.5 damage to armor

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**Author:** ![Velocity\_RaptorC](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/b19c9b/32.png) [@Velocity\_RaptorC](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Velocity_RaptorC)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 7:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/335 "2013-12-19T19:41:00Z")

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> > > 20mm should do 45 damage to infantry  
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> 20mm does 3 damage per bullet to aircraft, 2 to transport heli, 1 damage to armor  
> 25mm does 4 damage per bullet to aircraft, 3 to transport heli, 1.5 damage to armor  
> 30mm does 5 damage per bullet to aircraft, 4 to transport heli, 2.5 damage to armor

I dunno how they are going to balance attack jets. The jets should have remained the way BF3 had it, plus more upgrades and perks. Multirole for conquest and attack for rush. Mobility hits is a noobs crutch as well, don’t need it.

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**Author:** ![Bfizzle62](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Bfizzle62](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Bfizzle62)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 7:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/336 "2013-12-19T19:46:00Z")

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> > > > 20mm should do 45 damage to infantry  
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> I dunno how they are going to balance attack jets. The jets should have remained the way BF3 had it, plus more upgrades and perks. Multirole for conquest and attack for rush. Mobility hits is a noobs crutch as well, don’t need it.

Well I’m not too worried if they buff attack jets or not because they are still pretty powerful enough to get the job done.

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**Author:** ![SLAP-Darknezz](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@SLAP-Darknezz](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SLAP-Darknezz)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 10:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/337 "2013-12-19T22:13:00Z")

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> > > > > &amp;amp;amp;quot;Oh, jets are supposed to die from a single bullet. A single bullet can set a jet on fire.&amp;amp;amp;quot; Once such a sentence was uttered by a jet hater.  
> > > > > I disagree and so does this F-15:
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> > > > The F-15 has been know to be a godlike fighter jet. I am serious they just won’t blow up.
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> I hope the reading is for enjoyment and not stored as factual. You do know pixysolowing aka Larry "pixy" Faulke is a fictional person right?

No shiznits sherlock?

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**Author:** ![Gruwen](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@Gruwen](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Gruwen)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 2:57am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/338 "2013-12-20T02:57:00Z")

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The attack jets are fine, they only need to enlarge the HUD and fix the bugs with the weapons.

Now, with the latest patch they actually balanced the maneuverability with the jets, they even increase the turning radius of the F-35, perfect.  
So.. When is the 20 and 25mm going to be able to actually kill something? They need to be buffed. Cuz as much as I like the way the handled the unbalance between the jets, it’s just a useless improvement if the jets still can’t attack.

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**Author:** ![SLAP-Darknezz](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@SLAP-Darknezz](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SLAP-Darknezz)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 7:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/339 "2013-12-20T19:51:00Z")

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> The attack jets are fine, they only need to enlarge the HUD and fix the bugs with the weapons.
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> Now, with the latest patch they actually balanced the maneuverability with the jets, they even increase the turning radius of the F-35, perfect.  
> So.. When is the 20 and 25mm going to be able to actually kill something? They need to be buffed. Cuz as much as I like the way the handled the unbalance between the jets, it’s just a useless improvement if the jets still can’t attack.

The F-35 remains to be useless. It still can’t hit 10 G’s like the J-20 can. It’s highest with reverse rudders is like 9.67G’s for me.

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**Author:** ![Tremuto](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/96bed5/32.png) [@Tremuto](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Tremuto)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2013, 4:14am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/340 "2013-12-21T04:14:00Z")

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Just gonna bump this before I go on my 2 week break.

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