# How to Balance/Fix Jets **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 31, 2013, 4:53am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614 "2013-10-31T04:53:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![NubCake4](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/4bbf92/32.png) [@NubCake4](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NubCake4)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 1:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/141 "2013-11-02T01:19:00Z")
BUMP FOR NOT SHIT JET ---
**Author:** ![GrieferKiller](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/grieferkiller/32/102123_2.png) [@GrieferKiller](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GrieferKiller)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 1:20am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/142 "2013-11-02T01:20:00Z")
Signed…Hear ye the words of Bean Dip…errr Golden\_Darknezz, oh Dice, or be damned! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Golden\_Darknezz](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Golden\_Darknezz](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Golden_Darknezz)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 1:49am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/143 "2013-11-02T01:49:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _GrieferKiller said:_ > Signed…Hear ye the words of Bean Dip…errr Golden\_Darknezz, oh Dice, or be damned! 😛 Glad to see you’re on board with us Killer. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ExDeltaForce](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/73ab20/32.png) [@ExDeltaForce](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ExDeltaForce)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 1:57am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/144 "2013-11-02T01:57:00Z")
/signed. I painstakingly unlocked everything in the stealth jet hoping the 30mm would be a vast improvement. How wrong I was. Also I really think the air radar needs to be static rather than moving along with you; it makes you lose perspective far too often. I have occasionally been out of bounds and died due to confusing the hell out of myself, lol. ---
**Author:** ![Bfizzle62](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Bfizzle62](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Bfizzle62)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 1:58am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/145 "2013-11-02T01:58:00Z")
Pour honey all over my body then call me filth ---
**Author:** ![LeperSucks](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/bc79bd/32.png) [@LeperSucks](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LeperSucks)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 2:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/146 "2013-11-02T02:24:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _Golden\_Darknezz said:_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _GrieferKiller said:_ > > Signed…Hear ye the words of Bean Dip…errr Golden\_Darknezz, oh Dice, or be damned! 😛 > > Glad to see you’re on board with us Killer. 😃 Now we need alphanerd ---
**Author:** ![iKickzBad](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@iKickzBad](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iKickzBad)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 3:17am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/147 "2013-11-02T03:17:00Z")
Has anybody from DICE looked at this yet? Vincent? ---
**Author:** ![HwanZike](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/e480ec/32.png) [@HwanZike](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HwanZike)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 3:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/148 "2013-11-02T03:24:00Z")
I think they are too focused on server stability fixes first ☹ ---
**Author:** ![NakaharaMisaki](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/bb73d2/32.png) [@NakaharaMisaki](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NakaharaMisaki)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 3:31am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/149 "2013-11-02T03:31:00Z")
have a good night pilots, now u know to talk about balance? ---
**Author:** ![Munnerss](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@Munnerss](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Munnerss)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 3:51am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/150 "2013-11-02T03:51:00Z")
I feel claustrophobic when im in the jets in Bf4 -\_- ---
**Author:** ![aircool53](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/439d5e/32.png) [@aircool53](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/aircool53)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 4:44am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/151 "2013-11-02T04:44:00Z")
The 3rd person camera angle is bad also, Battlefield 3’s was perfect. ---
**Author:** ![Golden\_Darknezz](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Golden\_Darknezz](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Golden_Darknezz)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 4:44am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/152 "2013-11-02T04:44:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _NakaharaMisaki said:_ > have a good night pilots, now u know to talk about balance? BF3 jets were pretty balanced. 😃 Most players are just bad at that game. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![iKickzBad](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@iKickzBad](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iKickzBad)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 4:53am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/153 "2013-11-02T04:53:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _Golden\_Darknezz said:_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _NakaharaMisaki said:_ > > have a good night pilots, now u know to talk about balance? > > BF3 jets were pretty balanced. 😃 > Most players are just bad at that game. 😛 The flanker and hornet did have a difference, but it wasn’t by much. A better pilot could sometimes win with a flanker, and a superior pilot could normally always win. But this new jet system, having one jet do 8G turns and the other jet doing 15G turns is broken. Honestly, i think fixing the turning radius and shot damage are the first two most important things. The 3rd person FOV is playable with the current jet stream system, but I would prefer it at 90 FOV. The radar seems to add a new twist to DF, so people will have to learn new stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Golden\_Darknezz](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Golden\_Darknezz](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Golden_Darknezz)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 7:04am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/154 "2013-11-02T07:04:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _iKickz-nM said:_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _Golden\_Darknezz said:_ > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > _NakaharaMisaki said:_ > > > have a good night pilots, now u know to talk about balance? > > > > BF3 jets were pretty balanced. 😃 > > Most players are just bad at that game. 😛 > > The flanker and hornet did have a difference, but it wasn’t by much. A better pilot could sometimes win with a flanker, and a superior pilot could normally always win. But this new jet system, having one jet do 8G turns and the other jet doing 15G turns is broken. Honestly, i think fixing the turning radius and shot damage are the first two most important things. The 3rd person FOV is playable with the current jet stream system, but I would prefer it at 90 FOV. The radar seems to add a new twist to DF, so people will have to learn new stuff. NO. I don’t like any of that one bit. Give us back BF3’s third person camera. The new one is absolute crap. It feels like glue. Ace Combat’s third person camera is better than that crap. ---
**Author:** ![iKickzBad](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@iKickzBad](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iKickzBad)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 7:47am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/155 "2013-11-02T07:47:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _Golden\_Darknezz said:_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _iKickz-nM said:_ > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > _Golden\_Darknezz said:_ > > > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > > > _NakaharaMisaki said:_ > > > > have a good night pilots, now u know to talk about balance? > > > > > > BF3 jets were pretty balanced. 😃 > > > Most players are just bad at that game. 😛 > > > > The flanker and hornet did have a difference, but it wasn’t by much. A better pilot could sometimes win with a flanker, and a superior pilot could normally always win. But this new jet system, having one jet do 8G turns and the other jet doing 15G turns is broken. Honestly, i think fixing the turning radius and shot damage are the first two most important things. The 3rd person FOV is playable with the current jet stream system, but I would prefer it at 90 FOV. The radar seems to add a new twist to DF, so people will have to learn new stuff. > > NO. I don’t like any of that one bit. Give us back BF3’s third person camera. The new one is absolute crap. It feels like glue. Ace Combat’s third person camera is better than that crap. The jets in BF3 were on rails, and if you didn’t know how to exploit the reverse rudder, you will lose. Would it hurt to have better handling and balance turn radius? It seems you just want the jets to be exactly the same as BF3, so you don’t have to practice. It’s supposed to be a new game with a new feel, but they made the jets broken. I don’t want 100% exact copies of BF3 jets, but something a little different in the handling and availability of dogfighting moves being used, instead of switch and reverse rudder spam. ---
**Author:** ![Bfizzle62](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Bfizzle62](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Bfizzle62)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 8:04am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/156 "2013-11-02T08:04:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _Golden\_Darknezz said:_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _NakaharaMisaki said:_ > > have a good night pilots, now u know to talk about balance? > > BF3 jets were pretty balanced. 😃 > Most players are just bad at that game. 😛 The F18 and Flanker were not perfect but close enough to overcome with skill, the SU-50 allows the most basic noobie to out-turn anyone ---
**Author:** ![iKickzBad](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@iKickzBad](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iKickzBad)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 8:35am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/157 "2013-11-02T08:35:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _Bfizzle62 said:_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _Golden\_Darknezz said:_ > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > _NakaharaMisaki said:_ > > > have a good night pilots, now u know to talk about balance? > > > > BF3 jets were pretty balanced. 😃 > > Most players are just bad at that game. 😛 > > The F18 and Flanker were not perfect but close enough to overcome with skill, the SU-50 allows the most basic noobie to out-turn anyone They really need to add the F-22, and if they can’t, then bring back the F-18 and rename the jets in-game to fighter jets. Then, give them all the same handling. ---
**Author:** ![ted2033](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@ted2033](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ted2033)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 8:44am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/158 "2013-11-02T08:44:00Z")
I really wanna use A2A missiles in pro dogfight! I hope DICE can make it. ---
**Author:** ![iKickzBad](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@iKickzBad](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iKickzBad)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 8:45am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/159 "2013-11-02T08:45:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _ted2033 said:_ > I really wanna use A2A missiles in pro dogfight! I hope DICE can make it. NO! ---
**Author:** ![Bfizzle62](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Bfizzle62](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Bfizzle62)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 8:46am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614/160 "2013-11-02T08:46:00Z")
> [@](#): > > _iKickz-nM said:_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _Bfizzle62 said:_ > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > _Golden\_Darknezz said:_ > > > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > > > _NakaharaMisaki said:_ > > > > have a good night pilots, now u know to talk about balance? > > > > > > BF3 jets were pretty balanced. 😃 > > > Most players are just bad at that game. 😛 > > > > The F18 and Flanker were not perfect but close enough to overcome with skill, the SU-50 allows the most basic noobie to out-turn anyone > > They really need to add the F-22, and if they can’t, then bring back the F-18 and rename the jets in-game to fighter jets. Then, give them all the same handling. Or DICE can stop being idiots with Downs Syndrome and make all jets, including the F35, perfectly balanced [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614.md?page=7) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/how-to-balance-fix-jets/154614.md?page=9)