# "I camp, what should i do? Go out and get killed?" This is the monstrosity DICE created. **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 25, 2019, 7:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-camp-what-should-i-do-go-out-and-get-killed-this-is-the-monstrosity-dice-created/107248 "2019-08-25T19:41:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![italickus](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/italickus/32/106787_2.png) [@italickus](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/italickus)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2019, 7:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-camp-what-should-i-do-go-out-and-get-killed-this-is-the-monstrosity-dice-created/107248/1 "2019-08-25T19:41:00Z")
One of the thousands of campers you find in this game. Even in Devastation. One of the many today in this map was the typical medic camping with the usual Thompson/Suomi behind corners. Prone. This one used Thompson. I admit this game makes me extremely nervous and toxic especially in chat. In every EU conquest servers i play, 98% of people camp, no matter the map or side. I had an argument with one of those Thompson campers in Devastation, prone behind sandbags in a corner. Cannot repeat here what i told him, but he replied “yes im camping, what should i do? Go out there and get instantly killed?” This game is a camping abomination. It doesnt even feel like a WW2 game AT ALL!. But an early WW1 game where people were entrenched in their positions all day long. Without ever moving. For the fear to get killed when they peak out. People like the guy above now represents the battlefield community seeing the astronomical amount of campers in this game using extremely high rof guns to have easy kills while they camp. Neither in BF1 campers were this huge and i have more than 800 hours in it. Why is this happening? Partially is also because of the different audience DICE wanted to attract into this game. they wanted to keep the former Battlefield veterans who love hard stuff, but at the same time they wanted also the new wave of Battlefield players who love easy kills and want easy gunplay, Call of Duty audience, all the Batlle Royale audience et cetera. Remember when they modified TTK was modified because kids started to whine game was too hard? Now we are flooded with people like this. People who never played a shooter in their lives. Or people who played easy shooters where u only have to press the trigger and guns dont even have recoil so easy to use they are. People who dont know what team work is. People who camp because otherwise they get killed. In a map of 64, u have 64 solo players chasing the same flag. And then extreme camperism is one of the consequences or the nonsensical choices of DICE in the gameplay. Now to end my post, i ask Dice to give us the custom servers immediately so we can balance the game ourselves. For example by removing MGs, 3x scopes just to mention two of the many things wrong in this game. ---
**Author:** ![Antares65z](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/antares65z/32/100925_2.png) [@Antares65z](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Antares65z)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2019, 7:52pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-camp-what-should-i-do-go-out-and-get-killed-this-is-the-monstrosity-dice-created/107248/2 "2019-08-25T19:52:00Z")
Chances are the private servers will become custom the moment you change any default settings. In BF1, those servers disappear from the browser with default settings. It probably won’t be any different with BF5. Removing certain weapons from the game won’t fix the camping problem. ---
**Author:** ![dayglowfroggy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e9a140/32.png) [@dayglowfroggy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/dayglowfroggy)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-camp-what-should-i-do-go-out-and-get-killed-this-is-the-monstrosity-dice-created/107248/3 "2019-08-25T20:02:00Z")
What platform are you on? I play on xbox every night and have done since beta but I don’t see some huge camping problem as you described. I mean I do get killed by some one prone every now and then maybe twice a game but I come back and kill then or mark then for my team or call them out to my squad so they don’t usually last long. Do you play on mic with a squad? I tend to be looking around allot and use 3x scope for this purpose if it’s available. Sometimes my squad does rush off and I end up just behind them because I want to check out my surroundings but if I am taking the lead people will show down. I do go on mad twitch shooter somtimes if I am on one . ---
**Author:** ![italickus](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/italickus/32/106787_2.png) [@italickus](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/italickus)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-camp-what-should-i-do-go-out-and-get-killed-this-is-the-monstrosity-dice-created/107248/4 "2019-08-25T20:02:00Z")
> [@\-Antares65z](#): > > Chances are the private servers will become custom the moment you change any default settings. In BF1, those servers disappear from the browser with default settings. It probably won’t be any different with BF5. Removing certain weapons from the game won’t fix the camping problem. No, but it helps reducing it by far. Once you remove all MGs, then you can give support different weapons if you want. I recall servers in BF1 in which medics were even given scout rifles or assault smgs. What makes assault weapons OP? Their vast range of action. From 0 to 1.5 kilometres. Remove 3x scopes and all others except 1x scopes, and you see more balanced gunplay in this game. No more assaults camping. But assault trying to get flags exactly as medics should do. You can leave scopes to snipers. Its their job. Counter sniping should be made by other snipers, not by assault with ridiculously broken guns. If it were for me, ill remove even the perks from all guns. Just crude level 0 weapons. And people have to learn to master the different recoils etc. ---
**Author:** ![Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hawxxeye/32/101036_2.png) [@Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Hawxxeye)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2019, 8:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-camp-what-should-i-do-go-out-and-get-killed-this-is-the-monstrosity-dice-created/107248/5 "2019-08-25T20:03:00Z")
As long as the people who are being held on top of a pedestal are those who kill more and die less, this will never stop. ---
**Author:** ![viper63x](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/3ec8ea/32.png) [@viper63x](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/viper63x)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2019, 8:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-camp-what-should-i-do-go-out-and-get-killed-this-is-the-monstrosity-dice-created/107248/6 "2019-08-25T20:59:00Z")
if you want to camp, then camp, you bought the game, and the game allows it. I camp sometimes myself, nothing wrong with it. If people complain so hard about campers, then blame the map design. ALSO camping does annoy me sometimes, but im not going to comlain to him/her, because its just not right to tell somebody what they can adn can’t do. ---
**Author:** ![dICEHOUSE](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dicehouse/32/101027_2.png) [@dICEHOUSE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/dICEHOUSE)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-camp-what-should-i-do-go-out-and-get-killed-this-is-the-monstrosity-dice-created/107248/7 "2019-08-25T21:53:00Z")
Sort of got to agree with @viper63x You (a person) paid for it just like anything else you pay for. Unless there are agreed upon inclusions ( example a ‘lease’ ), you can do whatever the hell you want with it. Last time I checked, EA’s EULA read nothing about violations that include playing whilst not moving and firing your weapon for longer than…whatever. Then there are those that will say " The game is **meant** to be played as a squad/team based working together so on and so on. That’s correct. It’s the game’s design. It’s the game creator’s Agenda that’s pushed upon players that end up following it as though it’s Law. I agree, constant camping is annoying. Seems though that campers get sniffed out eventually unless they have found some sort of prestigious spot. Which sometimes isn’t hard to do considering BFV’s generally poor visibility…which probably leads to more camping. Really just got to grin and bear it until map design and visuals make it harder to do so, but it will never go away. ---
**Author:** ![SillySinStorm](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sillysinstorm/32/107156_2.png) [@SillySinStorm](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SillySinStorm)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2019, 9:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-camp-what-should-i-do-go-out-and-get-killed-this-is-the-monstrosity-dice-created/107248/8 "2019-08-25T21:55:00Z")
I just had a couple of little legends camping on the rocks overlooking B on Fjell squad conquest. One recon and one support. The support teabagged me with glee after killing me from his glitchy perch. I took great joy in flanking wide towards B and taking them both out. And again when they spawned on the spawn beacon that i’d purposefully left intact. And again when they didn’t quite get the message. Camp all you like but do it intelligently. ---
**Author:** ![CSO7777](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@CSO7777](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CSO7777)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2019, 10:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-camp-what-should-i-do-go-out-and-get-killed-this-is-the-monstrosity-dice-created/107248/9 "2019-08-25T22:18:00Z")
Campers have always been a part of BF-games. Previous games had lots of forum-threads about this as well and camping will never go away (in BF1 it was ‘shotgun corner campers’). The biggest problem with camping in BFV is not the weapons (except perhaps the MMGs), but the visibility. You can go prone in “plain sight” and be invisible, lots of headglitching issues and in general enemies are just too hard to see in the game in too many situations, all this encourages camping even more. ---
**Author:** ![ProAssassin2003](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/proassassin2003/32/103170_2.png) [@ProAssassin2003](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ProAssassin2003)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2019, 10:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-camp-what-should-i-do-go-out-and-get-killed-this-is-the-monstrosity-dice-created/107248/10 "2019-08-25T22:23:00Z")
Remove Prone position on your back,bring back showing up while firing weapon. Camping solved. Or make it interesting and just make it where people proning show up on Mini Map while firing. There is lots of easy fixes as I fixed camping just now. DICE implementing easy fixes is another problem. ---
**Author:** ![CSO7777](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@CSO7777](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CSO7777)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2019, 11:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-camp-what-should-i-do-go-out-and-get-killed-this-is-the-monstrosity-dice-created/107248/11 "2019-08-25T23:01:00Z")
> [@ProAssassin2003](#): > > Remove Prone position on your back,bring back showing up while firing weapon. Camping solved. > > Or make it interesting and just make it where people proning show up on Mini Map while firing. > > There is lots of easy fixes as I fixed camping just now. DICE implementing easy fixes is another problem. These are bad solutions to the problem. Showing on minimap when prone or firing sounds horrible. We had this ‘minimap-meta’ in BF4 and that was perhaps one of the biggest most awful things of the game (along with 3D spotting/dorito shooting). The game should work without the minimap being important at all (imho). ---
**Author:** ![xXCA\_RageXx](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/ad7895/32.png) [@xXCA\_RageXx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xXCA_RageXx)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 12:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-camp-what-should-i-do-go-out-and-get-killed-this-is-the-monstrosity-dice-created/107248/12 "2019-08-26T00:28:00Z")
> [@LEGATVS\_ROMANVS](#): > > One of the thousands of campers you find in this game. Even in Devastation. One of the many today in this map was the typical medic camping with the usual Thompson/Suomi behind corners. Prone. This one used Thompson. I admit this game makes me extremely nervous and toxic especially in chat. In every EU conquest servers i play, 98% of people camp, no matter the map or side. I had an argument with one of those Thompson campers in Devastation, prone behind sandbags in a corner. Cannot repeat here what i told him, but he replied “yes im camping, what should i do? Go out there and get instantly killed?” > > This game is a camping abomination. It doesnt even feel like a WW2 game AT ALL!. But an early WW1 game where people were entrenched in their positions all day long. Without ever moving. For the fear to get killed when they peak out. People like the guy above now represents the battlefield community seeing the astronomical amount of campers in this game using extremely high rof guns to have easy kills while they camp. Neither in BF1 campers were this huge and i have more than 800 hours in it. > > Why is this happening? Partially is also because of the different audience DICE wanted to attract into this game. they wanted to keep the former Battlefield veterans who love hard stuff, but at the same time they wanted also the new wave of Battlefield players who love easy kills and want easy gunplay, Call of Duty audience, all the Batlle Royale audience et cetera. Remember when they modified TTK was modified because kids started to whine game was too hard? Now we are flooded with people like this. People who never played a shooter in their lives. Or people who played easy shooters where u only have to press the trigger and guns dont even have recoil so easy to use they are. People who dont know what team work is. People who camp because otherwise they get killed. In a map of 64, u have 64 solo players chasing the same flag. > > And then extreme camperism is one of the consequences or the nonsensical choices of DICE in the gameplay. > > Now to end my post, i ask Dice to give us the custom servers immediately so we can balance the game ourselves. For example by removing MGs, 3x scopes just to mention two of the many things wrong in this game. I have played since BF2 on Pc and this game doesnt feel any different in terms of campers. There will always be campers in any FPS game for the most part. I am constantly on the move for the most part, even when i play recon and have absolutely no issue topping to getting near the top of the leaderboard. ---
**Author:** ![xXCA\_RageXx](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/ad7895/32.png) [@xXCA\_RageXx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xXCA_RageXx)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 12:29am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-camp-what-should-i-do-go-out-and-get-killed-this-is-the-monstrosity-dice-created/107248/13 "2019-08-26T00:29:00Z")
> [@ProAssassin2003](#): > > Remove Prone position on your back,bring back showing up while firing weapon. Camping solved. > > Or make it interesting and just make it where people proning show up on Mini Map while firing. > > There is lots of easy fixes as I fixed camping just now. DICE implementing easy fixes is another problem. Would you like them to just hold your hand to your kills too? Good lord. ---
**Author:** ![ProAssassin2003](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/proassassin2003/32/103170_2.png) [@ProAssassin2003](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ProAssassin2003)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 1:35am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-camp-what-should-i-do-go-out-and-get-killed-this-is-the-monstrosity-dice-created/107248/14 "2019-08-26T01:35:00Z")
> [@CSO7777](#): > > (Quote) > These are bad solutions to the problem. > > Showing on minimap when prone or firing sounds horrible. We had this ‘minimap-meta’ in BF4 and that was perhaps one of the biggest most awful things of the game (along with 3D spotting/dorito shooting). The game should work without the minimap being important at all (imho). Well just deal with the Camping then because that’s why those systems was in place. Campers cryed and got there way now we have predator bush woolies. Enjoy ---
**Author:** ![xXHamatoYoshiXx](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/439d5e/32.png) [@xXHamatoYoshiXx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xXHamatoYoshiXx)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 2:03am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-camp-what-should-i-do-go-out-and-get-killed-this-is-the-monstrosity-dice-created/107248/15 "2019-08-26T02:03:00Z")
Dear God this thread is so laughable. I can’t believe how many people are still complaining about camping. That just goes to show how so many have no clue how to play this game, when this aspect has been in battlefield forever now, let alone so many other first person shooters. You kids crack me up lol. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![xKusagamix](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/xkusagamix/32/104118_2.png) [@xKusagamix](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xKusagamix)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 2:27am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-camp-what-should-i-do-go-out-and-get-killed-this-is-the-monstrosity-dice-created/107248/16 "2019-08-26T02:27:00Z")
I do hate campers that go prone half of the round, but as someone said before, they paid for the game, therefore they can play it their way. That’s the reason why i play as a Recon with Flare and Spotting Scope just to spot them. And for god sake the Spotting Camera upgrade for the Tanks and Planes are completely useless for months. ---
**Author:** ![StormSaxon](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ecc23a/32.png) [@StormSaxon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/StormSaxon)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 3:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-camp-what-should-i-do-go-out-and-get-killed-this-is-the-monstrosity-dice-created/107248/17 "2019-08-26T03:24:00Z")
Your game. You play the game your way. Others play it theirs. I don’t know why anyone would fly about dropping bombs… it’s a yawn fest… but some love it. Camping occurs, it’s not at some epic level though at all. On some maps it’s, at its worst, at the same level that you’d get it on Metro/Operation Locker/Achi Baba/ Fort De Vaux. And camping is a viable tactic if your defending objectives on Breakthrough or Rush. It’s less useful on conquest but still viable. It’s most frustrating when an attacking team has people camping as they objectively will be achieving little in most situations. Camping yields a little short term KD profit for some, but after two or three kills comes the inevitable headshot/ melee kill/ grenade/ dynamite that kills the camper. Most often I see the camper die while I’m still waiting to bleed out. And hard campers rarely get high scores. Top table will always be medics who revive/heal and are on objectives, supports who repair, resupply and are on objectives, recon who spot, spawn beacon, get on objectives and headshot other snipers and assaults. Because assaults can kill anyone at any range, take out tanks and get on objectives. So if camping annoys you that much try changing a server. I usually only play in /Singapore servers and occasionally on a US west Coast server if it has good signal. I don’t find camping to be anyworse than in other versions of the game there. Maybe yanks and Asians prefer winning to boosted k/d ratios? ---
**Author:** ![oldmandown65](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/oldmandown65/32/107026_2.png) [@oldmandown65](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/oldmandown65)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 3:33am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-camp-what-should-i-do-go-out-and-get-killed-this-is-the-monstrosity-dice-created/107248/18 "2019-08-26T03:33:00Z")
It’s not important if you get killed by a camper, what’s important is how hard you rage over it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![bran1986](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bran1986/32/101405_2.png) [@bran1986](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bran1986)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 3:45am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-camp-what-should-i-do-go-out-and-get-killed-this-is-the-monstrosity-dice-created/107248/19 "2019-08-26T03:45:00Z")
They need to take away the insane benefits of camping. Start with rebalancing the mmgs, cut AT rifles ohk range in half and disable proning and bipoding off your back. ---
**Author:** ![ZuluWarGod](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/zuluwargod/32/107366_2.png) [@ZuluWarGod](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ZuluWarGod)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 4:14am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-camp-what-should-i-do-go-out-and-get-killed-this-is-the-monstrosity-dice-created/107248/20 "2019-08-26T04:14:00Z")
I certainly feel like it’s alot higher in bf5 than previous battlefield games without a doubt. The reason I think it is so is because spotting was removed. In other bf games if there was a sniper that was prone you could spot them and then they would be a sitting duck. They would get 1 kill then once spotted would be killed. As others have said visibility is poor in bf5 which doesn’t help the situation. Am I missing something or was there a problem with how previous Battlefield games played that I somehow missed? I still do not understand why bf5 is the way it is. I mean the series started in WW2 so it’s not like they haven’t done it previously? Thank god they cancelled the 5v5 mode..maybe they are remembering what made this series great. They need to.being back some of the systems that encouraged bravery and taking flags. I play bf5 the way I always played bf and I can say the amount of times I am running and get killed instantly by a prone player is frustrating. Given the poor response to bf5 I think they need to change something… [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-camp-what-should-i-do-go-out-and-get-killed-this-is-the-monstrosity-dice-created/107248.md?page=2)