# I don't think this player base even knows what it wants lol **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 13, 2019, 9:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-dont-think-this-player-base-even-knows-what-it-wants-lol/254051 "2019-02-13T21:36:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![M\_Rat13](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@M\_Rat13](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/M_Rat13)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 9:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-dont-think-this-player-base-even-knows-what-it-wants-lol/254051/1 "2019-02-13T21:36:00Z")
Playerbase: “Do X Dice” Dice: _Does X_ Player base: “Actually Dice, we want Y instead, the thing we had before that we complained about” Dice: ??? I’m surprised Dice even listens to the player base anymore, lol. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Label\_Scotch](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/74df32/32.png) [@Red\_Label\_Scotch](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Red_Label_Scotch)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 10:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-dont-think-this-player-base-even-knows-what-it-wants-lol/254051/2 "2019-02-13T22:00:00Z")
Can you give an example? ---
**Author:** ![M\_Rat13](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@M\_Rat13](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/M_Rat13)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 10:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-dont-think-this-player-base-even-knows-what-it-wants-lol/254051/3 "2019-02-13T22:04:00Z")
> [@Red\_Label\_Scotch](#): > > Can you give an example? The recent patch which made the 20mm gun on light tanks not able to solo kill heavy tanks anymore. People said it annoyed them, Dice changed it, yet today I’ve seen a thread telling Dice the changes were terrible. And that’s just a recent example. ---
**Author:** ![Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/noodlesocks/32/101045_2.png) [@Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Noodlesocks)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-dont-think-this-player-base-even-knows-what-it-wants-lol/254051/4 "2019-02-13T22:06:00Z")
It is as though opinions vary from person to person. ---
**Author:** ![xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/97f17d/32.png) [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBCxSEALxTEAMx6)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 10:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-dont-think-this-player-base-even-knows-what-it-wants-lol/254051/5 "2019-02-13T22:08:00Z")
> [@M\_Rat13](#): > > > [@Red\_Label\_Scotch](#): > > > > Can you give an example? > > The recent patch which made the 20mm gun on light tanks not able to solo kill heavy tanks anymore. People said it annoyed them, Dice changed it, yet today I’ve seen a thread telling Dice the changes were terrible. And that’s just a recent example. Yeah, but those were small potatoes complaints. Everyone is going to complain about something. The big issues were netcode not fixed, visibility not fixed, and the the combined arms mode could have been done a lot better. So, i think it’s more the community wanting something, and DICE trying, but not providing. ---
**Author:** ![spartanx169x](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@spartanx169x](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/spartanx169x)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 10:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-dont-think-this-player-base-even-knows-what-it-wants-lol/254051/6 "2019-02-13T22:17:00Z")
But also like The TTK debacle, the playerbase has several smaller subgroups. That often conflict with each other. This is why DICE should provide more game types. a casual/classic mode with spotting / full health regen/full ammo and quicker revives for casual players , then a hardcore mode for the opposite group. More content in the form of more game types is not a bad thing it keeps people playing. They will not continue to play game types if they are not having fun. It’s better to have a casual playing a casual gametype than they not play at all ---
**Author:** ![TFBisquit](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/f07891/32.png) [@TFBisquit](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TFBisquit)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 10:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-dont-think-this-player-base-even-knows-what-it-wants-lol/254051/7 "2019-02-13T22:22:00Z")
I’m a casual player and find it hard to play against the pros in this game. So I can relate yeah. ---
**Author:** ![Tip\_the\_Cap](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/a5b964/32.png) [@Tip\_the\_Cap](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Tip_the_Cap)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 10:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-dont-think-this-player-base-even-knows-what-it-wants-lol/254051/8 "2019-02-13T22:26:00Z")
We all want new/more maps though. We can agree on that. ---
**Author:** ![FragbaitDax](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/db5fbb/32.png) [@FragbaitDax](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FragbaitDax)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 11:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-dont-think-this-player-base-even-knows-what-it-wants-lol/254051/9 "2019-02-13T23:06:00Z")
> [@Tip\_the\_Cap](#): > > We all want new/more maps though. We can agree on that. Just to be contrary, I disagree. Or rather, not till playability issues are fixed. I actually like and enjoy all the current maps as they present different challenges and opportunities for me to play in different ways. That said, once the main issues are resolved I will welcome some new terrain to get killed on! ---
**Author:** ![SOULJ4R](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/soulj4r/32/107186_2.png) [@SOULJ4R](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SOULJ4R)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 11:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-dont-think-this-player-base-even-knows-what-it-wants-lol/254051/10 "2019-02-13T23:38:00Z")
Somebody sucking up to DICE now lol, guess that threat had an affect on you, rat 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/97f17d/32.png) [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBCxSEALxTEAMx6)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 11:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-dont-think-this-player-base-even-knows-what-it-wants-lol/254051/11 "2019-02-13T23:44:00Z")
Well, because DICE don’t know what the"community" wants, and you know why? THIS is why… [https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/aq8vjl/discussion\_bfv\_chapter\_2\_lightning\_strikes\_update/](https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/aq8vjl/discussion_bfv_chapter_2_lightning_strikes_update/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/aq5hzf/focused\_feedback\_visibility/](https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/aq5hzf/focused_feedback_visibility/) Try reading thru all that muck. They’re not listening to the community. They’re listening to REDDIT !!! I have mind to give them a piece of my mind RIGHT NOW. ---
**Author:** ![SupremeAzsoul](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/supremeazsoul/32/107206_2.png) [@SupremeAzsoul](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SupremeAzsoul)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 11:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-dont-think-this-player-base-even-knows-what-it-wants-lol/254051/12 "2019-02-13T23:45:00Z")
Playerbase: “Please, Give us more maps” Dice: _Zzz_ ---
**Author:** ![DevilsBathtub](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/devilsbathtub/32/101705_2.png) [@DevilsBathtub](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DevilsBathtub)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 11:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-dont-think-this-player-base-even-knows-what-it-wants-lol/254051/13 "2019-02-13T23:54:00Z")
Are you sure they adgust stuff by comments? Maybe their going by stats? ---
**Author:** ![M\_Rat13](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@M\_Rat13](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/M_Rat13)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 12:08am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-dont-think-this-player-base-even-knows-what-it-wants-lol/254051/14 "2019-02-14T00:08:00Z")
> [@SOULJ4R](#): > > Somebody sucking up to DICE now lol, guess that threat had an affect on you, rat 🙂 The only reason I made that thread about the Stug IV was becuase even I can only take so much. Maybe I’m just a very lenient guy. On a side note though, I still can’t wrap my head around how the Stug IV design was allowed pass the drawing board. A TD, with that small of a gun! Gimme a break Dice. All you needed to do was look at your creation, to realize it looked stupid with that peashooter on the front. What were we discussing again? ---
**Author:** ![PoppaPappo](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ebca7d/32.png) [@PoppaPappo](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PoppaPappo)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 12:54am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-dont-think-this-player-base-even-knows-what-it-wants-lol/254051/15 "2019-02-14T00:54:00Z")
> [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > Well, because DICE don’t know what the"community" wants, and you know why? THIS is why… > > [https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/aq8vjl/discussion\_bfv\_chapter\_2\_lightning\_strikes\_update/](https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/aq8vjl/discussion_bfv_chapter_2_lightning_strikes_update/) > > [https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/aq5hzf/focused\_feedback\_visibility/](https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/aq5hzf/focused_feedback_visibility/) > > Try reading thru all that muck. They’re not listening to the community. They’re listening to REDDIT !!! I have mind to give them a piece of my mind RIGHT NOW. I don’t understand. Are the people on Reddit not part of the community? Also, after just quickly scanning through the comments it seems like a lot of complaints you see here. ---
**Author:** ![EdwinSpangler](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/edwinspangler/32/101832_2.png) [@EdwinSpangler](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/EdwinSpangler)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 1:31am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-dont-think-this-player-base-even-knows-what-it-wants-lol/254051/16 "2019-02-14T01:31:00Z")
I know what I want. Spotting. ---
**Author:** ![parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/parkingbrake)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 1:56am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-dont-think-this-player-base-even-knows-what-it-wants-lol/254051/17 "2019-02-14T01:56:00Z")
> [@Red\_Label\_Scotch](#): > > Can you give an example? 1. We hate paid DLC, it splits the community even though it pays for added content, get rid of it. 2. Where is the new content, we want new maps and weapons and vehicles like in BF4. Maybe they should bring back Premium. ---
**Author:** ![fortress66](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/2bfe46/32.png) [@fortress66](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/fortress66)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 2:55am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-dont-think-this-player-base-even-knows-what-it-wants-lol/254051/18 "2019-02-14T02:55:00Z")
> [@PoppaPappo](#): > > > [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > > Well, because DICE don’t know what the"community" wants, and you know why? THIS is why… > > > > [https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/aq8vjl/discussion\_bfv\_chapter\_2\_lightning\_strikes\_update/](https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/aq8vjl/discussion_bfv_chapter_2_lightning_strikes_update/) > > > > [https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/aq5hzf/focused\_feedback\_visibility/](https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/aq5hzf/focused_feedback_visibility/) > > > > Try reading thru all that muck. They’re not listening to the community. They’re listening to REDDIT !!! I have mind to give them a piece of my mind RIGHT NOW. > > I don’t understand. Are the people on Reddit not part of the community? > > Also, after just quickly scanning through the comments it seems like a lot of complaints you see here. I second!! ---
**Author:** ![xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/97f17d/32.png) [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBCxSEALxTEAMx6)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 3:02am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-dont-think-this-player-base-even-knows-what-it-wants-lol/254051/19 "2019-02-14T03:02:00Z")
> [@PoppaPappo](#): > > > [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > > > Well, because DICE don’t know what the"community" wants, and you know why? THIS is why… > > > > [https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/aq8vjl/discussion\_bfv\_chapter\_2\_lightning\_strikes\_update/](https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/aq8vjl/discussion_bfv_chapter_2_lightning_strikes_update/) > > > > [https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/aq5hzf/focused\_feedback\_visibility/](https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/aq5hzf/focused_feedback_visibility/) > > > > Try reading thru all that muck. They’re not listening to the community. They’re listening to REDDIT !!! I have mind to give them a piece of my mind RIGHT NOW. > > I don’t understand. Are the people on Reddit not part of the community? > > Also, after just quickly scanning through the comments it seems like a lot of complaints you see here. Well no. It’s only a hair fraction of who buys this game (2k posters out 7 million sales). I actually think the greatest and largest by far part of the community, are folks at home playing the game, who don’t post on forums. How do we know what their complaints are? Most by far don’t post on forums about their games, not here or there. There has to be a way to gauge folks at home, with in depth surveys, and questions such as this whenever they release these updates. In so we can get a better gauge of what the fella who plays an hour a day after work may thing, as compared to someone on reddit or here, that plays 8 hours a day. Of course, those two opinions could be vastly different, and likely are. And another difference being, there’s a hell of a lot more than them, than at Reddit. And so, the answer is no, and probably why we’re in the mess we’re in. ---
**Author:** ![Astr0damus](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@Astr0damus](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Astr0damus)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 3:35am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-dont-think-this-player-base-even-knows-what-it-wants-lol/254051/20 "2019-02-14T03:35:00Z")
> [@Red\_Label\_Scotch](#): > > Can you give an example? # [Link to section: Does this count?](#p-1797501-does-this-count-1)Does this count? ![combined-arms.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/e/4/e4c383ce827a7112ea4ef34228c20d7f8773d2d3.jpeg) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-dont-think-this-player-base-even-knows-what-it-wants-lol/254051.md?page=2)