# I hate this game and I'm done

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [April 11, 2019, 9:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-this-game-and-im-done/106841 "2019-04-11T21:41:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gundidrone](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/gundidrone/32/102145_2.png) [@Gundidrone](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Gundidrone)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 4:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-this-game-and-im-done/106841/141 "2019-04-19T04:16:00Z")

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BFV is definitely missing that fun element.

BF2/3/4 were all super addictive but V feels like a game you have to play seriously to get a decent score.

I’m not sure what went wrong though maybe it is the restricted respawning on squad mates, only having 4 in a squad and slower revive times that are slowing down the gun fights to much.

A lot of wasted content in this game they could have not given us and just given us more maps instead.

Like I never play the coop mode, practice range, battle royal and single player campaigns.

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**Author:** ![parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/parkingbrake)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 9:43am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-this-game-and-im-done/106841/142 "2019-04-19T09:43:00Z")

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> [@SilkWildey](#):
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> It’s just a bad game, if you look at the evidence it’s just overall a bad game. I know small amount of people like it but anyone with eyes and ears knows this game got universally panned.
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> Like I said before BFV is to BF what Infinite warfare is to COD.

See, words have meanings. If you say “horse” you’d better be pointing at a horse, not a cow. And when you say “universally” you’d better stick to the meaning provided by the dictionary: **"3.** Done, produced, or shared by all members of the class or group under consideration: a discovery that met with universal acclaim." So if you say “universally panned” you’re saying _everyone_ who has commented on BFV agrees it’s a bad game. But if you look at Metacitic, 51 professional critics gave the PC version of BFV an average score of 81, the console versions having slightly lower scores. User scores tend to be far lower for obvious reasons, unhappy customers being much more likely to sound off than happy customers as anyone in a business dealing with the public can confirm. For reference, Anthem got a score of 58, Fallout 76 a score of 52, and Resident Evil 2 a score of 89.

So unless you actually meant something different than the plain meaning of your words, you’re wrong, BFV did not get universally panned. If they’d asked me I’d have said the game’s most serious issues are not technical, but the short-sighting and counter-productive policies of EA like no rented servers, live service, and a weak anti-cheat. I still like the game, but I think in the long run those foolish choices by EA will make BFV a smaller and shorter-lived game than it could have been.

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**Author:** ![SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sirbobdk/32/103491_2.png) [@SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SirBobdk)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 10:07am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-this-game-and-im-done/106841/143 "2019-04-19T10:07:00Z")

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> [@parkingbrake](#):
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> I think in the long run those foolish choices by EA will make BFV a smaller and shorter-lived game than it could have been.

The core elements of the game is not bad and it could have been a really good game.  
But when you release a half finished game, lack of content, with massive bugs, balance problems, no rental servers an a empty road map, then you ask for trouble. Sales and playerbase reflect this  
Imo the train has left the station long time ago and EA/Dice must have come to the same conclusion. I will be surprised if they invest more in this game than a couple of maps and weapons.  
So yes, I also think BFV is to be a short-lived game compared to other BF games.

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**Author:** ![ackers75](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@ackers75](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ackers75)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 11:44am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-this-game-and-im-done/106841/144 "2019-04-19T11:44:00Z")

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It’s a pretty fun game but the frustrating silly bugs soon overtakes the fun part.

This industry needs more regulation as its just making a mockery of the consumer!  
Should be still entitled to a refund if bugs are still present 6 month after launch.

That would soon kick these devs into gear.

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**Author:** ![VOLBANKER](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/dec6dc/32.png) [@VOLBANKER](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VOLBANKER)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 2:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-this-game-and-im-done/106841/145 "2019-04-19T14:55:00Z")

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Last night I played Conquest on Devastation.  
A teammate and I were headed for D when we encountered an enemy.  
Teammate was a little ahead of me and started fighting the enemy soldier.  
I quickly checked the minimap for other enemies nearby, and then I saw the weirdest thing:  
On the minimap a death symbol appeared for my teammate, yet he was still alive and fighting right in front of me on the battlefield. But sure enough, a split second later he died.  
The netcode for this game is in a seriously bad condition when something like that can happen.

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**Author:** ![ackers75](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@ackers75](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ackers75)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 2:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-this-game-and-im-done/106841/146 "2019-04-19T14:56:00Z")

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netcode worse due to taking uk servers offline!

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**Author:** ![alienstout](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/alienstout/32/101179_2.png) [@alienstout](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/alienstout)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 7:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-this-game-and-im-done/106841/147 "2019-04-30T19:53:00Z")

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> [@ackers75](#):
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> netcode worse due to taking uk servers offline!

But the matchmaking… is better with less servers. Yeah, that’s some logic.

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**Author:** ![G-Gnu](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/g-gnu/32/102029_2.png) [@G-Gnu](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/G-Gnu)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 7:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-this-game-and-im-done/106841/148 "2019-04-30T19:55:00Z")

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When all my classes are on rank 20 i will leave, there is nothing left that appeals me in this game.

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**Author:** ![Yahia](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/d9b06d/32.png) [@Yahia](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Yahia)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 11:29pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-this-game-and-im-done/106841/149 "2019-05-03T23:29:00Z")

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> > > > > > > > > Love the way the ops complaint starts with 'thats all I’m going to say" and then launches into a massive moan… So that’s not all your going to say then?
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> > > > > > > > > Why would you want a franchise you apparently like to fail? I know you don’t like bfv but a game failing doesn’t necessarily mean a better game replaces it, sometimes it just means the game will die for good. To much risk for the publisher, not enough reward.
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> > > > > > > > > Suggesting improvements, complain about bugs yeah that has to be done but wanting it to fail is pretty dumb, unless you just fundamentally don’t like battlefield, then I guess it makes sense.
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> > > > > > > > Because it either changes or I don’t want it to release more horrible games, I’d rather let a franchise I used to love die, then have this sort of horrible game be the normal for it. All the things I said about the game are true and you know it, stop defending a bad game made by a greedy company
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> > > > > > > So what you’re saying is because you don’t like this version of the game you don’t want anyone to enjoy it. Rather than just accept that this game isn’t what you want it to be you want it to fail, despite the fact a lot of people play it every day. Basically your attitude Is I don’t like it so no one should like it. All seems pretty childish to me.
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> > > > > > > No I don’t agree with all the things you said, I certainly don’t think it’s a bad game. It’s had some serious problems and I’d put it almost on a par with bf4 in the bad launch stakes. Greedy company, hell yes they are. EA drive the games they publish into the dirt chasing profits by putting pressure on studios for loot boxes etc, I can’t stand EA but I love what dice do. I’m not defending a greedy company but I am criticising the selfishness of wanting a game to die all because you don’t like it.
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> > > > > > So you don’t think the game is lacking content? That it’s not full of game breaking bugs and cheaters ? That they didn’t lie a million times over? That they promised a lot of things but didn’t deliver? That it has no battlefield feeling to it whatever? That everything they released for the game was a complete disappointment? When was the last time you heard anything good is actually happening in this game? Look at the general reaction to BF1 when it first released and look at this. Look at the difference in content BF4 had at this point in its life cycle and look at this. A game like bf1 for example is something I’ll probably never go back to, but at least when I remember it, good memories come to mind, actual content and the feeling of being excited for something new and not being disappointed when it finally comes because it’s actually what they said it would be, not a complete LIE.
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> > > > > > Okay then, I may come off as an negative to you, but you come off as someone who’ll just be happy with whatever little bone they throw you, just like dogs. I stuck by dice and this game even when LITERALLY everyone was hating on it on the internet, I defended it, I believed in them and played it everyday being excited for what’s coming next, but now I’m not, I’m DONE making excuses for them. Everything I said is wrong with this game IS true, and you know it and if you deny it, you are just like a said. It’s not a matter of opinion. Those are facts. The game had those problems. And if this is gonna be the norm, if dice will just release a broken, game and then barely release any content for it every 2 years just to milk money off of people, regardless of it being their or EA’s fault then I’d rather see this franchise die so I could at least remember it as something I actually used to love. Not something I would have been happy on its grave.
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> > > > > > And if you are personally enjoying the game and somehow satisfied with the droplets of content they give you, then good for you, you are a part of the minority that are actually delusional enough to believe that the game doesn’t have any of the problems I mentioned. But if you look around you at most of the community, most of them do believe there’s A LOT wrong with this game. And that’s gotta say something, when a game is on sale for half it’s price not even 1 month into its release, that’s gotta mean something is wrong. When unlike the game that came before it in the franchise, almost every bit of news is a disappointment, when most YouTube videos are talking about what’s wrong with the game, what’s the game missing and what’s broken in the new patch, you gotta know something is wrong. When the game has only a 69% like rate on Google compared to bf1 with 94% and BF4 with 95%, you gotta know something’s wrong. I can go on with everything that can easily show you how much is wrong, you say the game is good, but everything in reality goes against you.
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> > > > > > Wake up and stop defending them, I get how you feel because I’ve been there too, I got into countless arguments defending this game but now I can’t do this anymore. It doesn’t feel right.
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> > > > > > Again, I’m sorry I may come off as mean/childish/negative/rude/or whatever you wanna call it. But honestly the frustration I feel almost everytime I play this game just got me to a point where I went from a fan to someone who wants to see it die. I never wished this before,but when someone who loved this game so much reaches this point, you gotta see that something is definitely wrong…
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> > > > > Ok you have just interpreted my comment completely wrong and made up a load of stuff. There is too much in there to respond to and I just don’t care enough.
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> > > > > So to summarise.. My criticism was of that person wanting a game to FAIL because he doesnt like it despite the fact other people do like it. That is what I said was childish.
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> > > > > I have no problem with people complaining, hating that game, voicing concerns, hating on it for bugs or EA shady practices etc.
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> > > > > Ok or do I have to agree that I don’t like the game even though I do?
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> > > > I didn’t make up anything, everything i said about the game is 100% true, if you don’t see that then you are either just defending it just because or you’ve been living under a rock this whole time, do your research about everything I said and you’ll find it’s true
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> > > > You enjoy the game and you are happy with it as is? good for you, keep enjoying. But you are in fact a minority. Look around you and you’ll see, most of the community hates this game. And without the community, it will die. Weather or not this happens is mostly gonna relay on what they do with the next game. Because I believe BFV is a lost cause at this point, I’d like to be proven wrong but logic is mostly on my side on this one.
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> > > Nope, that’s subjective, just your opinion so it’s not 100% true, argue all you like but that’s a fact.
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> > > I’m far from happy with bfv as it is, desperately needs maps, dice keep making stupid decisions with content (squad conquest/firestorm duos etc) and it has bugs. Incredibly and despite those problems, I enjoy it! I can’t make myself not enjoy it just because you don’t like it I’m afraid, I will try though, just for you. I’ll make a special effort to hate it.
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> > > And yes i absolutely know I’m in a minority when it comes to bfv, but what does that even mean? I shouldn’t like it because I’m in a minority? Stop enjoying it because other people don’t?
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> > > Goes back to my main point before you derailed it moaning about the state of the game. Wanting a game to fail because you don’t personally like it is childish.
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> > Tell me what it is that I’m “making up”
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> > Also I didn’t say that you have to stop enjoying it because you are a minority. I’m saying because most of the community is on my side of the argument then we probably have a point. And the game is as horrible as we say it is. I’m not gonna fanboy over a franchise that became a shadow of itself anymore, this is not battlefield.
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> > And this game has ALREADY failed. Just give it sometime and you’ll see, if you think you’ll be getting any meaningful content until the end of its life cycle, you are lying to yourself. And if they repeat this with the next game then the franchise is most likely dead, that will be there last chance, most of the community has already abandoned the game.
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> > Also I don’t care if you think it’s childish, again if this level of quality is gonna be the norm for this franchise then I’d rather see it die and not see what happened to COD happen to it
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> Unfortunately I just don’t care enough to respond any more than this. I quit this forum a month ago because of the toxic nature and comments, seems it was a good idea, you are precisely the type of person I want to avoid.
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> In a way I hope you get your wish and they retire battlefield completely, then you can really have a moan about having nothing to play.
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> Enjoy not playing battlefield whilst enjoy playing a game I like.

Cool, enjoy your broken empty game while I play other games until the small remaining part of the community leaves this game as well.

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**Author:** ![DrunkwoIf](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@DrunkwoIf](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DrunkwoIf)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 12:32am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-this-game-and-im-done/106841/150 "2019-05-04T00:32:00Z")

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honestly you could tell it was bad just from the Beta. and thats why i saved my money.

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**Author:** ![research-kitchen](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/bc8723/32.png) [@research-kitchen](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/research-kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 2:06am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-this-game-and-im-done/106841/151 "2019-05-04T02:06:00Z")

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I couldn’t bring myself to buy this game after playing the beta, I’ve bought almost every BF game until this one. Instead of a rant I’ll just say this, the game just seem like to much work. Taking out spotting is for the HC players. I’m sure the majority would like spotting back, I couldn’t see anyone at distance unless they were moving.

Tell EA with your wallet or purse next game, don’t be so quick to pre order or purchase.

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**Author:** ![DRUNKMONKEY9821](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/9fc348/32.png) [@DRUNKMONKEY9821](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DRUNKMONKEY9821)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 4:59am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-this-game-and-im-done/106841/152 "2019-05-04T04:59:00Z")

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Back to bad company 😛

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**Author:** ![xKusagamix](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/xkusagamix/32/104118_2.png) [@xKusagamix](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xKusagamix)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 5:05am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-this-game-and-im-done/106841/153 "2019-05-04T05:05:00Z")

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BFV is not a bad game, it’s actually a good game but not a fun game anymore.

Too much realistic stuffs killed the fun. I miss the Jihad jeep in BF4.

[![Video: Jeep Stuff - Official Music Video](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/e/e/ee33619c18a7ac9492926fd0ddf9c690c8bbec43.jpeg "Jeep Stuff - Official Music Video") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUgbqREPXpg)

These dumb, unrealistic and time wasting things are what made BF4 fun.

[![Video: BF4: Peek-A-Boo](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/7/3/7371a320a91c20884dc5dc6079dac46357e1a1cf.jpeg "BF4: Peek-A-Boo") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nteDP62uWcw)

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**Author:** ![plasticman883](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@plasticman883](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/plasticman883)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 8:18am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-this-game-and-im-done/106841/154 "2019-05-04T08:18:00Z")

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> [@parkingbrake](#):
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> > [@SilkWildey](#):
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> > It’s just a bad game, if you look at the evidence it’s just overall a bad game. I know small amount of people like it but anyone with eyes and ears knows this game got universally panned.
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> > Like I said before BFV is to BF what Infinite warfare is to COD.
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> See, words have meanings. If you say “horse” you’d better be pointing at a horse, not a cow. And when you say “universally” you’d better stick to the meaning provided by the dictionary: **"3.** Done, produced, or shared by all members of the class or group under consideration: a discovery that met with universal acclaim." So if you say “universally panned” you’re saying _everyone_ who has commented on BFV agrees it’s a bad game. But if you look at Metacitic, 51 professional critics gave the PC version of BFV an average score of 81, the console versions having slightly lower scores. User scores tend to be far lower for obvious reasons, unhappy customers being much more likely to sound off than happy customers as anyone in a business dealing with the public can confirm. For reference, Anthem got a score of 58, Fallout 76 a score of 52, and Resident Evil 2 a score of 89.
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> So unless you actually meant something different than the plain meaning of your words, you’re wrong, BFV did not get universally panned. If they’d asked me I’d have said the game’s most serious issues are not technical, but the short-sighting and counter-productive policies of EA like no rented servers, live service, and a weak anti-cheat. I still like the game, but I think in the long run those foolish choices by EA will make BFV a smaller and shorter-lived game than it could have been.

lol, didn’t this age well. Imagine thinking industry reviews meant anything. It was /is well known that the most sought after reviews were determined on ideological points as much as bona fide gaming ones.

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**Author:** ![Yahia](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/d9b06d/32.png) [@Yahia](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Yahia)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 12:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-this-game-and-im-done/106841/155 "2019-05-04T12:51:00Z")

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> [@plasticman883](#):
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> parkingbrake said:
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> SilkWildey said:  
> It’s just a bad game, if you look at the evidence it’s just overall a bad game. I know small amount of people like it but anyone with eyes and ears knows this game got universally panned.
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> Like I said before BFV is to BF what Infinite warfare is to COD.  
> See, words have meanings. If you say “horse” you’d better be pointing at a horse, not a cow. And when you say “universally” you’d better stick to the meaning provided by the dictionary: “3. Done, produced, or shared by all members of the class or group under consideration: a discovery that met with universal acclaim.” So if you say “universally panned” you’re saying everyone who has commented on BFV agrees it’s a bad game. But if you look at Metacitic, 51 professional critics gave the PC version of BFV an average score of 81, the console versions having slightly lower scores. User scores tend to be far lower for obvious reasons, unhappy customers being much more likely to sound off than happy customers as anyone in a business dealing with the public can confirm. For reference, Anthem got a score of 58, Fallout 76 a score of 52, and Resident Evil 2 a score of 89.
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> So unless you actually meant something different than the plain meaning of your words, you’re wrong, BFV did not get universally panned. If they’d asked me I’d have said the game’s most serious issues are not technical, but the short-sighting and counter-productive policies of EA like no rented servers, live service, and a weak anti-cheat. I still like the game, but I think in the long run those foolish choices by EA will make BFV a smaller and shorter-lived game than it could have been.
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> lol, didn’t this age well. Imagine thinking industry reviews meant anything. It was /is well known that the most sought after reviews were determined on ideological points as much as bona fide gaming ones.

That’s why I didn’t bother responding to him as soon as I saw he brought up “professional critics” yeah right

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**Author:** ![xXHamatoYoshiXx](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/439d5e/32.png) [@xXHamatoYoshiXx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xXHamatoYoshiXx)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 1:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-this-game-and-im-done/106841/156 "2019-05-04T13:44:00Z")

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> [@mrtwotimes](#):
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> > a incomplete and non fucnting game.
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> I seem to play it just fine almost daily, just saying. Everything is subjective.

Sales figures don’t lie homie.

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**Author:** ![GRAW2ROBZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/graw2robz/32/102113_2.png) [@GRAW2ROBZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GRAW2ROBZ)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 4:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-this-game-and-im-done/106841/157 "2019-05-04T16:10:00Z")

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> [@DRUNKMONKEY9821](#):
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> Back to bad company 😛

Bad Company 2 pretty much dead for XBOX. I tried other day. The server was 1vs1.

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**Author:** ![Texator](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/b77776/32.png) [@Texator](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Texator)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 5:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-this-game-and-im-done/106841/158 "2019-05-04T17:03:00Z")

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BF V is a strange game. Somtimes i log on and have really fun playing it, other times i log on and it is just frustrating playing it.  
It have the potential to be a very good game for sure but it needs work, the right kind of work.  
I still stuck on every second stone. The hit indicator shows random stuff but not the direction from where the shot came, in a game with that good working camoflage and fast ttk i have to rely on the hit indicator to have, at least, a small chance to fight back  
i was so happy when they announced there is no premium anymore. But now, after seeing we get almost nothing new, i prefer to pay for premium and get 4 extensions with new maps for sure.  
There is still time to do the right work and make BF V to a good and populated game but if they waste more time with things like combined arms etc. the time will run out fast.

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**Author:** ![parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/parkingbrake)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 6:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-this-game-and-im-done/106841/159 "2019-05-04T18:42:00Z")

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> [@Yahia](#):
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> > [@plasticman883](#):
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> > parkingbrake said:
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> > SilkWildey said:  
> > It’s just a bad game, if you look at the evidence it’s just overall a bad game. I know small amount of people like it but anyone with eyes and ears knows this game got universally panned.
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> > Like I said before BFV is to BF what Infinite warfare is to COD.  
> > See, words have meanings. If you say “horse” you’d better be pointing at a horse, not a cow. And when you say “universally” you’d better stick to the meaning provided by the dictionary: “3. Done, produced, or shared by all members of the class or group under consideration: a discovery that met with universal acclaim.” So if you say “universally panned” you’re saying everyone who has commented on BFV agrees it’s a bad game. But if you look at Metacitic, 51 professional critics gave the PC version of BFV an average score of 81, the console versions having slightly lower scores. User scores tend to be far lower for obvious reasons, unhappy customers being much more likely to sound off than happy customers as anyone in a business dealing with the public can confirm. For reference, Anthem got a score of 58, Fallout 76 a score of 52, and Resident Evil 2 a score of 89.
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> > So unless you actually meant something different than the plain meaning of your words, you’re wrong, BFV did not get universally panned. If they’d asked me I’d have said the game’s most serious issues are not technical, but the short-sighting and counter-productive policies of EA like no rented servers, live service, and a weak anti-cheat. I still like the game, but I think in the long run those foolish choices by EA will make BFV a smaller and shorter-lived game than it could have been.
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> > lol, didn’t this age well. Imagine thinking industry reviews meant anything. It was /is well known that the most sought after reviews were determined on ideological points as much as bona fide gaming ones.
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> That’s why I didn’t bother responding to him as soon as I saw he brought up “professional critics” yeah right

So we’ve gone from “universally panned” to not universally panned but the critics you disagree with just don’t count. Got it. Moving the goalposts, always fun.

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**Author:** ![OverLord01a](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/e68b1a/32.png) [@OverLord01a](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/OverLord01a)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 9:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-this-game-and-im-done/106841/160 "2019-05-04T21:40:00Z")

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Sorry but reviews do mean something to the consumer. Online or not people do pay attention to them and do judge the game by them. Agree or not thats the reality of it. Without those “critics” people would be blindly buying a lemon of a game and devs would never learn past there mistakes.

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