# I hate to admit it but there are cheaters in this game currently **URL:** \ **Category:** PC\ **Created:** [November 22, 2018, 2:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665 "2018-11-22T02:26:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![BadBudgieSmuggla](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/65b543/32.png) [@BadBudgieSmuggla](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BadBudgieSmuggla)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 2:39am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/481 "2019-02-12T02:39:00Z")
Someone said a few posts back that no one has come up with technical solutions. If youve been following this thread you’ll see lots of suggestions that have been proven to tighten up a games security vs cheating. The problem is EA is governed by people that put the focus on cost cutting and doing the bare minimum on things that don’t bring a financial return. So they won’t tighten up on account verification methods to prevent cheats opening new accts because they’ll lose the extra revenue from repeat purchases/rental of the game. When they put that ahead of maintaining a clean game they lose any loyalty from lots of us. It’s a big F U to us all who don’t cheat. But a few things mentioned on top of tightening up on repeat cheating accts… RENTED SERVERS. Let people with a passion for the integrity of a game help to keep it “fun and fair” to quote EA. As someone else mentioned go after the hack developers like Epic did. i’m sure that company felt the pressure and considered its role after being sued. If they can have paypal kill payment methods for these sites their sales will drop. How many of you would give your card details to one of these hack sites? There has to be a legal position that these sites that bring a game into disrepute could be restricted from using legitimate payment methods. If they stop duplicate accts, add a 2nd level of anti cheat whether battleye or easy anti cheat to catch them. An easier report method in game and actual reviews of evidence provided would be nice too. A combination of these things pro actively actioned would make it such a chore for the developers and the cheats. We’ll never have cheat free games but if it made cheats tone it down that would at least make it playable. Online gaming is in a state and it’s up to these companies to take it seriously or watch game sales and in game purchases continue to drop on pc versions. If thats what they want then fine stay on the path they’ve been on for years ---
**Author:** ![BadBudgieSmuggla](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/65b543/32.png) [@BadBudgieSmuggla](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BadBudgieSmuggla)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 2:39am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/482 "2019-02-12T02:39:00Z")
> [@Major\_Pungspark](#): > > Well, if it aint obvious, and has probably been mentioned, but some regions should only be able to play with themselfs because they have serious issues, no one mentioned but everyone probably knows what region is the number one to never ever be let into another region. Of course that wont help all cheating but it will let cheaters play with cheaters more so they can have a cheater shootout. Yeh i mentioned it on their anti cheat reddit post where they asked for feedback. We can say it as it is…we don’t particuarly want or need Chines hackers who are bored playing all the cheats on Asian server coming onto EU/UK servers. It serves no purpose as all we get is more cheats and high ping which can affect server performance. I’m guessing it will be an expense that EA/Dice are trying to avoid. Guessing it will take some man hours to isolate and region lock. They really are so crap. It’s not like they’re even trying any of the possible solutions. Very sad as the game had so much potential. ---
**Author:** ![BadBudgieSmuggla](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/65b543/32.png) [@BadBudgieSmuggla](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BadBudgieSmuggla)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 2:39am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/483 "2019-02-12T02:39:00Z")
> [@Hercules728](#): > > I had a similar experience late last night . In 2 rounds the cheater was 80 - 2 . It was quite obvious he was cheating . Both on infantry maps . He was also very active in the chat taunting our team . This is getting ridiculous . I wonder if EA catches a cheater if he gets a 2 day ban , week , or a warning . People use to get a global ban , servers could ban these losers as well . Right now … nothing is done . Yeh i just had a game to see if any change. Didn’t see the rage hacking but quite a few suspect kills. Quit the game mid round. I just don’t find the game much fun and not worth my time as is. For a bit of fun a game with lots of cheats isn’t really a consideration unless you’re desperate. Can’t wait for The Division 2 to come out as really enjoyed the beta. ---
**Author:** ![NN\_Buzz12](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/7cd45c/32.png) [@NN\_Buzz12](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NN_Buzz12)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 3:15am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/484 "2019-02-12T03:15:00Z")
I’ve seen many with 100+ scores. Had several that flat admit only to tell everyone to report it as EA can’t stop them. One of those thing where you just move on to another server. I’m no expert on how to fix it but it gets old. Private servers - Private servers - Private servers - admin controls if I’m paying for the server. ---
**Author:** ![PvtBlackdog](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/45deac/32.png) [@PvtBlackdog](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PvtBlackdog)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 3:57am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/485 "2019-02-12T03:57:00Z")
I’m thinking they won’t do anything about the cheating because they are always trying to play catch up with the hackers… Also me thinks if they do nothing, then PC players will just move onto consoles and then maybe development will just be dropped for the PC because pirates won’t be able to crack the games and therefore sales will improve…So I reckon these companies are just sticking it to PC players because they just don’t care anymore! ---
**Author:** ![ThePro\_PR](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ThePro\_PR](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThePro_PR)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 4:48am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/486 "2019-02-12T04:48:00Z")
Just had a long a fun (well at least for 20-30min) FL game ruined by a hacker. The game had been back and forth but we finally, with only 8-10 minutes left, pushed them back (destroyed 1-2 obj). Out of nowhere this lvl 14 “god” came in and started racking up kills … 97-9 the last time I saw the the scoreboard. They pushed us back all the way to our spawn and won the game with less than a minutes to go. Seriously what the is EA/DICE going to do about this? Should we start spamming twitter and social media shaming EA until they are forced to do something? It seems the only way to get someone to do something these days. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 5:17am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/487 "2019-02-12T05:17:00Z")
@ThePro_PR Dont swear, It is not allowed. forums.battlefield.com/en-us/discussion/137240/battlefield-forum-rules-and-guidelines ---
**Author:** ![STOPchris](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@STOPchris](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/STOPchris)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 5:45am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/488 "2019-02-12T05:45:00Z")
If you guys want to name and shame, just head over to Reddit. I am sure that Reddit probably gets more views anyway. This website is EA’s attempt to control their image, don’t let that happen and go over to Reddit. ---
**Author:** ![STOPchris](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@STOPchris](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/STOPchris)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 6:00am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/489 "2019-02-12T06:00:00Z")
I just read the blog post from EA/DICE on anti-cheat, where they linked a known cheater saying that they are just a good player… Completely restored my faith in them!!! Nice blog post!!! ---
**Author:** ![TFBisquit](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/f07891/32.png) [@TFBisquit](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TFBisquit)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 7:00am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/490 "2019-02-12T07:00:00Z")
> [@PvtBlackdog](#): > > I’m thinking they won’t do anything about the cheating because they are always trying to play catch up with the hackers… Also me thinks if they do nothing, then PC players will just move onto consoles and then maybe development will just be dropped for the PC because pirates won’t be able to crack the games and therefore sales will improve…So I reckon these companies are just sticking it to PC players because they just don’t care anymore! Well, been reading that for years now and games are still released on pc. But if a million pc copies were sold, it’s still between 30 and 60 million dollars. So they have to step it up, no escaping that. ---
**Author:** ![PvtBlackdog](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/45deac/32.png) [@PvtBlackdog](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PvtBlackdog)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 12:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/491 "2019-02-12T12:54:00Z")
TFBisquit “Well, been reading that for years now and games are still released on pc. But if a million pc copies were sold, it’s still between 30 and 60 million dollars. So they have to step it up, no escaping that.” Yep, ported console games that is…What games dedicated to PC? ---
**Author:** ![marked4death](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/marked4death/32/108101_2.png) [@marked4death](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/marked4death)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 1:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/492 "2019-02-12T13:18:00Z")
> [@STOPchris](#): > > I just read the blog post from EA/DICE on anti-cheat, where they linked a known cheater saying that they are just a good player… Completely restored my faith in them!!! Nice blog post!!! How in the right mind are you saying that Stodeh is a known cheater? Is this something that you feel… Players like you regress the conversation in to broken feeling and unattainable expectations ---
**Author:** ![BadBudgieSmuggla](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/65b543/32.png) [@BadBudgieSmuggla](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BadBudgieSmuggla)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 1:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/493 "2019-02-12T13:23:00Z")
> [@ThePro\_PR](#): > > Just had a long a fun (well at least for 20-30min) FL game ruined by a hacker. > > The game had been back and forth but we finally, with only 8-10 minutes left, pushed them back (destroyed 1-2 obj). > > Out of nowhere this lvl 14 “god” came in and started racking up kills … 97-9 the last time I saw the the scoreboard. > > They pushed us back all the way to our spawn and won the game with less than a minutes to go. > > Seriously what the is EA/DICE going to do about this? > > Should we start spamming twitter and social media shaming EA until they are forced to do something? It seems the only way to get someone to do something these days. ☹ Yep do that. They don’t want the bad publicity on their media channels. Look up the community managers on reddit and post on their Twitter too. If anything else they need to know how many people are displeased with their efforts…or lack of. Their game is a joke and the worst gaming experience available currently ---
**Author:** ![Madoka11](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/9f8e36/32.png) [@Madoka11](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Madoka11)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 1:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/494 "2019-02-12T13:34:00Z")
> [@BadBudgieSmuggla](#): > > > [@g0merpile](#): > > > > > [@GUNNY1966](#): > > > > > > **BATTLEFIELDV is now nothing more than a P.O.S. hackers Central!** > > > > EA does not care, the game is a flop. Sales way down lower then hardline. The problem is, EA decided to go console leaving many pc players in the dark. They do not care if everyone cheats. Cant beat them might as well join them. > > Well i won’t sink to the level of cheating at video games for some sort of weird ego driven, power trip. Also i wouldn’t get satisfaction from a fake score and win. i’d rather be true to my low skill levels of gaming. I just won’t buy these games anymore and focus on decent single player campaign games. For me online gaming has descended into a cess pool. It’s bottom of the barrel gaming. Shame understandable, the thought of cheating is repugnant to me as well, and I agree with you, this game has/had so much potential, makes me angry to even think about it ☹ as to a good fps single player game, check out Wolfenstein 2 The New Colossus, that is a great single player fps game ---
**Author:** ![BL00DY-ROY](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/3ab097/32.png) [@BL00DY-ROY](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BL00DY-ROY)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 1:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/495 "2019-02-12T13:34:00Z")
Ways to improve on anti-cheat: Overwatch - have same system as CS GO where community can judge videos of reported cheater In game reporting - Be able to report at once, instead of going to origin Killcam - like Cod Blackout, see seconds before the kill, and be able to spectate player afterwards for dodgy kills Origin ban - If you are banned, you are banned from all games. Trustmeter - Like CS GO. match people with low trust vs other people with low trust Pricing - If banned, making new account will cost much more Industry database - cooperate with other developers / publishers for central database. Banned in a game at Activision, you are automatically flagged at EA. Microsoft - Cooperate with Microsoft. Ban in a game are a violation towards Microsoft Windows, deactivates part of Windows. Hacker servers - Actually have hacker servers (let people play with hacks on hacker servers). This might move hackers away from legit servers, and give EA info on chat that are used, so it can be banned on legit servers. Flag people - See on scoreboard / in game if player have been banned before. Can then be kicked (votekick if stats are abnormal). Etc. Many will probably say that nothing of this works on CS GO, but it does. It does probably not work 100%, but all the percentages that we can get to reduce hacking is an improvement. I live in Norway, and play on EU servers. I have not experienced hacking as a problem (i have run into hackers, but not so that it ruins the game. just leave server, find a new. Problem solved). Probably are some areas more “infected” than others? ---
**Author:** ![parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/parkingbrake)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/496 "2019-02-12T15:11:00Z")
> [@Red\_Label\_Scotch](#): > > > [@parkingbrake](#): > > > > Nobody has come up with a technical solution to cheating because selling hacks is profitable enough that they can hire coders just as good as the anti-cheat companies–it is always going to be a back and forth battle. Solutions are in fact quite difficult. > > Rental Server Program. I wish. As a server admin I banned hundreds of cheaters over the years, either when credible anti-cheat systems like BF4DB or iStats or Cheat-O-Meter confirmed they were running hacks, or when I saw them do something impossible in the normal course of the game. EA decided they didn’t want that anymore, in part (I believe) because they don’t want clans with rented servers keeping a game alive for too long. When BF6 is released they won’t want us playing BFV any more than they would want us still playing BF3. Scrap the old game and buy the new one kids, and tell your friends to buy it too. Rented servers were the backbone of the BF series, but it looks like those days are gone, damn shame. ---
**Author:** ![parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/parkingbrake)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/497 "2019-02-12T15:11:00Z")
> [@BadBudgieSmuggla](#): > > Someone said a few posts back that no one has come up with technical solutions. If youve been following this thread you’ll see lots of suggestions that have been proven to tighten up a games security vs cheating. There are indeed many things that could (and should) be done to chip away at hack use, but there is no one magic bullet. PUBG has three anti-cheats and has banned over 13,000,000 accounts–still has lots of cheating. Fortnite has two anti cheats–BattleEye and Easy–still has plenty of cheating. As you say, rented servers with live admins would make a big difference, as would legal action against hack sellers and getting banks, credit card companies, PayPal etc. to stop handling payments to hack sellers. All these things would help, but in the end we’d still see some hacks for sale and some cheating. But I agree, it could be better than it is if the game companies would put in more effort. However the game publishers don’t seem to want to go the extra mile, I tend to think they’d be okay with the PC platform just going away so they can sell games just for consoles and not have to worry much about cheating anymore. ---
**Author:** ![BL00DY-ROY](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/3ab097/32.png) [@BL00DY-ROY](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BL00DY-ROY)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/498 "2019-02-12T15:11:00Z")
Ways to combat cheating could be (some of these are picked from CS go), and some are mentioned before. And some are probably violation to privacy laws. All of these could probably be argued that wont work due to “fill in here”, and some will probably argue that the measures in CS GO aren`t working. But i think it is important to give feedback that might help. If one measure works 2-5%, then some hackers are removed. Another measure might work 10%, well then some more hackers are removed. The hardcore hackers will probably always hack, but if you could reduce the amount of the average hackers, then that is better than nothing. Overwatch - Have something like Overwatch in CS GO, community could judge the player (and EA could rule the ban) Phone number - Account tied to phone number, like Prime in CS GO Trust - CS GO have trust meter, where players with low trust (multiple accounts, previous bans etc) are matched with other players with low trust. In game reporting - Be able to report in game quickly Kill Cam - Like COD blackout (if you want, you see the kill from the killers view and be able to spectate for a few seconds more to see if more dodgy kills) Pricing - If trustmeter low (due to multiple accounts or previous bans) or similar, have to pay double / triple price to get new account. Origin bans - If banned in other origin games, automatic bans in all origin games. Centralized ban database - industry cooperation for cheaters. All big developers / publisher share information. Ban across games Microsoft cooperation - Work with microsoft. A cheat in game is a violation to Microsoft rules. Your OS won`t work, or Microsoft don`t allow Nvidia / AMD drivers or Direct X or something on Windows, or Windows is restricted in a way that won`t let you play online games. Allow hacks on hack servers - let cheaters / hackers have their own playground (hack vs hack). This might reduce hacks in regular games, and it might gives EA information they could use in (meant to be) hackfree servers Don`t expose hackers - Just move hackers to other servers where other hackers have been moved (without telling them they have been discovered, let them play together). Gaming OS - Could be another microsoft cooperation. Have a gaming Os in Windows that are restricted, and more difficult to use hacks on Legal action - Like it is not allowed to pirate music / movies, a use of cheat is not allowed (requires some lobbying to EU / US etc). This would probably not be enforced, but some would be “scared” not to try hacks. Etc Etc Etc ---
**Author:** ![AntiFox08](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/48db29/32.png) [@AntiFox08](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/AntiFox08)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/499 "2019-02-12T15:11:00Z")
> [@BadBudgieSmuggla](#): > > > [@g0merpile](#): > > > > > [@GUNNY1966](#): > > > > > > **BATTLEFIELDV is now nothing more than a P.O.S. hackers Central!** > > > > EA does not care, the game is a flop. Sales way down lower then hardline. The problem is, EA decided to go console leaving many pc players in the dark. They do not care if everyone cheats. Cant beat them might as well join them. > > Well i won’t sink to the level of cheating at video games for some sort of weird ego driven, power trip. Also i wouldn’t get satisfaction from a fake score and win. i’d rather be true to my low skill levels of gaming. I just won’t buy these games anymore and focus on decent single player campaign games. For me online gaming has descended into a cess pool. It’s bottom of the barrel gaming. Shame Honest players already have ego and power trips, as well as satisfaction. It’s a video game. Cheat or no cheat, I’ll talk about it with friends, maybe interested acquaintances, but it stops there. ---
**Author:** ![Pelliy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/da6949/32.png) [@Pelliy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Pelliy)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 5:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/500 "2019-02-12T17:34:00Z")
> [@marked4death](#): > > > [@STOPchris](#): > > > > I just read the blog post from EA/DICE on anti-cheat, where they linked a known cheater saying that they are just a good player… Completely restored my faith in them!!! Nice blog post!!! > > How in the right mind are you saying that Stodeh is a known cheater? Is this something that you feel… > > Players like you regress the conversation in to broken feeling and unattainable expectations He’s not the only one that thinks this. Many here think the most of the content creators cheat. Some even think k that was allows them to cheat to market their games. Critical thinking lacks. If you ask these people have they ever tuned into a live stream? They say no. They’re going based off YouTube where they post their best clips. Considering stodeh been there on LAN, very unlikely he’s cheating. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665.md?page=24) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665.md?page=26)