# I hate to admit it but there are cheaters in this game currently **URL:** \ **Category:** PC\ **Created:** [November 22, 2018, 2:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665 "2018-11-22T02:26:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 49
**Author:** ![Micas99](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/micas99/32/102800_2.png) [@Micas99](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Micas99)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/961 "2019-04-17T19:07:00Z")
> [@parkingbrake](#): > > So the question is why does FF seem to be working so poorly now? Right.. I’ve been wondering about that as well. I’m still not convinced that FF is actually active in the game despite the game appearing to announce FF as the reason a player has been banned. FF does seem to be active in BF4 though. If it is active in BF5, EA may have the threshold for banning set so high that it doesn’t catch any but the most blatant players raging.. for whatever reason. It seems a stretch to think Dice is avoiding banning in order to prop up player counts, but who knows? Looks like the new consoles are going to land sometime next year, and with some stellar single player games coming out soon to tide me over, I think it’s not a big deal that BF is plagued. In my view, BF5, regardless of cheating, isn’t a very good game. I’ve been playing BF4 again and it’s more fun to me, despite it also being plagued. At least with BF4, there’s BF4DB. ---
**Author:** ![alienstout](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/alienstout/32/101179_2.png) [@alienstout](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/alienstout)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/962 "2019-04-17T19:09:00Z")
> [@Micas99](#): > > > [@parkingbrake](#): > > > > So the question is why does FF seem to be working so poorly now? > > Right.. I’ve been wondering about that as well. I’m still not convinced that FF is actually active in the game despite the game appearing to announce FF as the reason a player has been banned. FF does seem to be active in BF4 though. If it is active in BF5, EA may have the threshold for banning set so high that it doesn’t catch any but the most blatant players raging.. for whatever reason. It seems a stretch to think Dice is avoiding banning in order to prop up player counts, but who knows? Looks like the new consoles are going to land sometime next year, and with some stellar single player games coming out soon to tide me over, I think it’s not a big deal that BF is plagued. In my view, BF5, regardless of cheating, isn’t a very good game. I’ve been playing BF4 again and it’s more fun to me, despite it also being plagued. At least with BF4, there’s BF4DB. I agree, I have my doubts as to how active FF is in BF5. Sadly, I like this better than BF4 (gameplay, not maps.) ---
**Author:** ![B0ng0\_Banger](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/b19c9b/32.png) [@B0ng0\_Banger](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/B0ng0_Banger)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:12pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/963 "2019-04-17T19:12:00Z")
it’s working so poorly because 95% of cheaters only use stuff like wallhacks/esp. which i imagine is impossible for ff to detect since it dosen’t scan for cheats. there at least needs to be another layer of anti cheat in combination with ff to be effective. ---
**Author:** ![Micas99](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/micas99/32/102800_2.png) [@Micas99](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Micas99)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/964 "2019-04-17T19:34:00Z")
> [@B0ng0\_Banger](#): > > it’s working so poorly because 95% of cheaters only use stuff like wallhacks/esp. which i imagine is impossible for ff to detect since it dosen’t scan for cheats. there at least needs to be another layer of anti cheat in combination with ff to be effective. I read someplace that FF can catch someone walling if they track targets through obstacles for an inordinate amount of time. Basically, FF can only catch stupid cheaters, or those that don’t care about being caught. ---
**Author:** ![DancesWthMice](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@DancesWthMice](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DancesWthMice)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 9:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/965 "2019-04-17T21:21:00Z")
> [@Micas99](#): > > B0ng0\_Banger said: > it’s working so poorly because 95% of cheaters only use stuff like wallhacks/esp. which i imagine is impossible for ff to detect since it dosen’t scan for cheats. there at least needs to be another layer of anti cheat in combination with ff to be effective. > > I read someplace that FF can catch someone walling if they track targets through obstacles for an inordinate amount of time. Basically, FF can only catch stupid cheaters, or those that don’t care about being caught. Yes, the cheat sites makes recommendations about dodging FF. One of them being, avoid placing your crosshairs on enemies through walls for extended periods. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Label\_Scotch](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/74df32/32.png) [@Red\_Label\_Scotch](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Red_Label_Scotch)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/966 "2019-04-17T21:56:00Z")
> [@B0ng0\_Banger](#): > > it’s working so poorly because 95% of cheaters only use stuff like wallhacks/esp. which i imagine is impossible for ff to detect since it dosen’t scan for cheats. there at least needs to be another layer of anti cheat in combination with ff to be effective. It also can’t catch obvious rage hackers that get 6 kills per minute, either…Nor players that score 10k per minute. ---
**Author:** ![JPhysics](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jphysics/32/102429_2.png) [@JPhysics](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JPhysics)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 12:07am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/967 "2019-04-18T00:07:00Z")
> [@Red\_Label\_Scotch](#): > > > [@B0ng0\_Banger](#): > > > > it’s working so poorly because 95% of cheaters only use stuff like wallhacks/esp. which i imagine is impossible for ff to detect since it dosen’t scan for cheats. there at least needs to be another layer of anti cheat in combination with ff to be effective. > > It also can’t catch obvious rage hackers that get 6 kills per minute, either…Nor players that score 10k per minute. It can, but it is not being asked to flag those incidents. That doesn’t indicate a fault with fairfight, but rather bad human decision making. ---
**Author:** ![GVlXxf](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/eb8c5e/32.png) [@GVlXxf](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GVlXxf)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 11:25am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/968 "2019-04-18T11:25:00Z")
> [@produc3](#): > > @Netranger9 ; > > I dont know a single idiot who would say that’s a very good player, even in this thread. > > i am not a good shooter(i know all basics of the FPS game), but i can say i didn’t think there was any good player in BFV, only cheaters can kill many, there was no one who is a rambo in BFV, none in BF1 too. and it’s easy to say those kill over 30-60 in conquest is cheaters , we all played conquest mode, we all was camping in a flag too, we know how many kill u can got if there was no med or in fighting zone. so pls don’t be bullish yourself, we all know about the game( conquest mode) much > > PS: i am talking about PC edition ---
**Author:** ![jog0ff](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jog0ff/32/106821_2.png) [@jog0ff](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/jog0ff)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 11:36am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/969 "2019-04-18T11:36:00Z")
‘pros’ having 50-60 kills playing CQ can be seen on every server ---
**Author:** ![TyroneLoyd](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tyroneloyd/32/103927_2.png) [@TyroneLoyd](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TyroneLoyd)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 12:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/970 "2019-04-18T12:56:00Z")
> [@jog0ff](#): > > ‘pros’ having 50-60 kills playing CQ can be seen on every server I do it regularly. I could see if you were talking about it along with the way they play but 50 -60 kills in cq for an aggressive player is easily achievable. Let’s not sell the argument short please. We should being talking about cheaters specific actions not just kills. ---
**Author:** ![HiepXongDong](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hiepxongdong/32/108062_2.png) [@HiepXongDong](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HiepXongDong)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 1:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/971 "2019-04-18T13:09:00Z")
> [@B0ng0\_Banger](#): > > it’s working so poorly because 95% of cheaters only use stuff like wallhacks/esp. which i imagine is impossible for ff to detect since it dosen’t scan for cheats. there at least needs to be another layer of anti cheat in combination with ff to be effective. And how about autospot ? Cheater usually use autospot to spot some nearly players. So the autospot doesn’t show all player position. ---
**Author:** ![jog0ff](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jog0ff/32/106821_2.png) [@jog0ff](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/jog0ff)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 1:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/972 "2019-04-18T13:49:00Z")
> [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](#): > > > [@jog0ff](#): > > > > ‘pros’ having 50-60 kills playing CQ can be seen on every server > > I do it regularly. > > I could see if you were talking about it along with the way they play but 50 -60 kills in cq for an aggressive player is easily achievable. Let’s not sell the argument short please. We should being talking about cheaters specific actions not just kills. meant 50 -60/ 2 -5 ---
**Author:** ![TFBisquit](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/f07891/32.png) [@TFBisquit](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TFBisquit)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/973 "2019-04-18T19:39:00Z")
Well, you know, you just can’t take such statistics as meassurement. Sure, not every round, and maybe even just sometimes, but it does happen that a player finds himself in a good spot, and takes out numerous zerging enemies. Halftrack can give a quick 20 kills also. then the tankers that sit behind and manage to farm 50 or 60 kills in a round that took a little longer than usual. It does happen when the conditions are correct and opponents unsuspecting. ---
**Author:** ![jog0ff](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jog0ff/32/106821_2.png) [@jog0ff](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/jog0ff)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 7:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/974 "2019-04-18T19:50:00Z")
oh, doesn’t matter anymore as I’m done with this game…cheats, uk servers down…its just too much. also, found another WW2 fps game wheres no k/d stats so probably no cheats will be made. not saying that won’t be back bf in the future ..but will see ---
**Author:** ![SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sirbobdk/32/103491_2.png) [@SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SirBobdk)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/975 "2019-04-18T20:07:00Z")
> [@jog0ff](#): > > found another WW2 fps game wheres no k/d stats which one ? ---
**Author:** ![jog0ff](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jog0ff/32/106821_2.png) [@jog0ff](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/jog0ff)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 8:12pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/976 "2019-04-18T20:12:00Z")
> [@SirBobdk](#): > > > [@jog0ff](#): > > > > found another WW2 fps game wheres no k/d stats > > which one ? Hell Let Loose mate (its in beta testing stage to be released June this year), the game is hard due to being very realistic, team play is crucial, not fire team only, whole faction need to cooperate to win ---
**Author:** ![SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sirbobdk/32/103491_2.png) [@SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SirBobdk)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 8:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/977 "2019-04-18T20:18:00Z")
> [@jog0ff](#): > > > [@SirBobdk](#): > > > > > [@jog0ff](#): > > > > > > found another WW2 fps game wheres no k/d stats > > > > which one ? > > Hell Let Loose mate (its in beta testing stage to be released June this year), the game is hard due to being very realistic, team play is crucial, not fire team only, whole faction need to cooperate to win Yaa, I’m also looking forward to that game. Hopefully it can deliver more than BFV. ---
**Author:** ![Micas99](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/micas99/32/102800_2.png) [@Micas99](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Micas99)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 9:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/978 "2019-04-18T21:24:00Z")
Just browsing through the tracker sorted by SPM, it looks like the first player that has played \>100 rounds and is currently active (last match played today) has a 968 SPM, and 2.8 KPM, and very few vehicle kills for the time played. That would make him either one the best BF5 players, or a cheater that hasn’t been banned. 33% accuracy with the ribeyrolles 1918.. nice. One guy has a most recent match of Apr 10th. 1,834 SPM with 12,746 kills (all but ~50 infantry), of which 8,144 are with a lewis gun.. and 7,9999 of those are headshots. He’s played 525 total rounds. I counted up all his weapon kills.. What to make of a player that scores nearly 100% headshots not getting banned? 12,789 total kills.. 11,570 head shots. What does that imply about the state of the anti-cheat in BF5? It seems impossible that FF is doing any automated bans. Therefore, if FF is actually active in the game, it might flag a player for a human being to look at.. and nobody is looking at it. There is no staff reviewing reports, yet it does appear some players are getting banned. It’s pretty confusing. What I think we can be confident in saying, is that there is no automated system issuing bans based on statistics. There just isn’t. Players can rage in the game for hundreds of hours, without being banned. There is no anti-cheat detecting ESP and bots. There just isn’t. There is no hardware ban (that I know of), so those cheaters can just buy another copy of the game and continue on. Maybe some of them tone down the cheating. That’s what those of you who are still playing the game are up against. It is remarkable that the game is in this state. Dice is pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sirbobdk/32/103491_2.png) [@SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SirBobdk)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/979 "2019-04-18T21:32:00Z")
> [@Micas99](#): > > That’s what those of you who are still playing the game are up against. It is remarkable that the game is in this state. Dice is pathetic. Why I only fly :)😄 ---
**Author:** ![BBWallinator](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/c5a1d2/32.png) [@BBWallinator](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BBWallinator)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 11:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/980 "2019-04-18T23:42:00Z")
FF is not enough (is it even working?).. need HUMAN eyes to ADMIN the servers. Nothing will change till then [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665.md?page=48) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665.md?page=50)