# I hate to admit it but there are cheaters in this game currently

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**Created:** [November 22, 2018, 2:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665 "2018-11-22T02:26:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![VincentNZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/ce7236/32.png) [@VincentNZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VincentNZ)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1241 "2019-05-20T15:14:00Z")

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> > > > > > What chance in hell do we even have if even a EA forum Mod thinks 112-3 is totally ok !!  
> > > > > > The way I see things is every person playing has 32 other players at one time trying to kill them , and I can see 20-3 30-3 even 50-3 but 112-3 I really doubt its legit.
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> > > > > Bombers farming infantry with a decent pilot at the helm.. perfectly doable.
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> > > > > Same for cautious tankers knowing when to retreat and when to push and from what angle ( with good map knowledge )
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> > > > > Even on infantry it is possible to get similar scores, for example on grand operations mode where days 1, 2 and 3 all count as one round.
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> > > > > You could get 50 kills on day one, 37 kills on day 2 with 5 deaths, And on day 3 another 40 kills, the end of the operation would read : K = 127 / D = 5
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> > > > Context is important. A tank sniper or ace pilot is one thing, an infantry player on a CQ map who isn’t even playing with friends and can go 166-1 as Support with accuracy that surpasses the top players in the game isn’t good, he’s a cheater. When the opposing team is reporting in chat that he’s killing them through walls and players on his own team are following him around and reporting he isn’t being revived, that isn’t skill, it’s a hack.
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> > > > Sure, in some situations amazing scores are possible–but not in all situations. No legit player goes 166-1 in CQ and does that every time he plays, it would be difficult to do that with your whole squad as Medics constantly reviving you, much less running alone. So when the end-of-round Best Squad comes up, and it’s one guy in a locked squad with a score everyone knows is bogus–you’re looking at a cheater. That has nothing to do with an ace pilot or tanker, or Grand Operations, we’re talking about seeing with our own eyes players do things impossible in the normal course of the game. That’s why I don’t rely on just a score, there has to be evidence that the player is acting outside the normal operation of the game. I once banned someone who was sniping the pilots out of jets in flight from inside a closed shipping container at his base–he didn’t have a lot of kills, but the kills he had were simply impossible.
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> > > > **I reported the 166-1 guy last week, he’s still playing, I won’t be surprised if he’s still playing a month from now. Meanwhile, over in PUBG, if you report a cheater like that you’ll get a ban confirmation message within a day or two. If PUBG can do it, in a game with way, way more players than BFV, why can’t EA?**
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> > > ^^ Complete lack of desire to do so… the forums have active moderation.. the game servers don’t. What more needs to be said?
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> > > Fire the staff supposedly working diligently on the AC.. hire full time server mods. Problem solved. Where do I collect my salary for doing EA/DICE’s job for them?
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> > So say, 20k concurrent players on 64 player servers, conservative estimation. That is 312 servers, in need of a admin. Working in three shifts, so that is 936 admins. Say to avoid the different tax values, an hourly wage of 12 dollars. That is 89k $ per day or 2.7 million dollars per month, not assuming any surcharges for weekends, holidays or late/early shifts, this is EA after all. Basic accounting, that is why you do not get any salary.
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> ^^^ Not sure where the 20k number comes from… but I’ll play.
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> 1. You do not need an admin for every server.. though it sure would be nice. RSP fixes that immediately as most teams maintain their servers as it’s their reputation.
> 2. We’ve been made to police the servers ourselves with ineffective reporting system, I’m sure there would be a LOT of volunteers if given admin rights to simply kick blatant hacks. And I mean permaban.. get MAC address and IP so they cannot just buy another account easily.
> 3. If there was active administration (you know.. like when there is REAL RSP) the number of blatant hackers would thin quickly requiring less manpower to maintain.
> 4. The subtle hackers would be harder.. always takes time. But the subtle guys are not the ones currently wrekin gameplay like the solo guys going 60-70/5 and completely tipping the balance of any given round. They have an impact… but it’s tolerable most times.

The 20k was just a guess of the average concurrent players across all platforms at all times. Conservative guess, so that we have something to work with.

1. Yeah, well of course RSP would fix it, by removing them from the server, that needs an actvie admin as well though. This is not at all likely. Anyway RSP is not coming back in the needed form and there are reasons for that.
2. I’ve never made a report, why would I? Cheaters are not a relevant issue in my gameplay experience. As elaborated 1 in 100 rounds. I would not want the permaban power in the hands of the players either, because they are not capable of an unbiased decision, it is just lynch law.
3. It would not thin out, most players would still play on the Official servers, as seen in BF1, all you could do was kick them from the server which relocated the problem.
4. These subtle hacks are always what puzzled me, they are so convenient. You do not have to die to the Lewis Gun on every spawn, you can justify and call people hacker because they have no recoil, always know where the enemy is etc.. A guy kills you three times incredibly fast, you check his stats, find nothing spectacular, and conclude it must be one of those “subtle hackers”. That is confirmation bias.  
The biggest issue with RSP in BF4 were the admins themselves, switching teams, enforcing or not enforcing rules, kicking out of spite or simply doing nothing. I was admin on a server with a “no RPG on inf”-rule. I found that stupid, so I never kicked for it, heck when I am using PDWs and need to engage someone at 100m I will use the SMAW all day. I would kick people on Metro or Pearl Market that would hide on stairs with C4 with no warning, since this is the only thing I considered asocial and foul play. So that is arbitrary by definition.

In BF4 this would cause more serious issues, too. When EA bans your account then this is due to solid research and analysis on their part. BF4 had metabans with shared banlists that 80% of the servers were using and if you got on one of these because a foul admin put you on them, playing the game became rather hard, since you would be banned on all servers sharing the list.

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**Author:** ![OskooI\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/oskooi_007/32/103046_2.png) [@OskooI\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/OskooI_007)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1242 "2019-05-20T16:29:00Z")

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I’m pretty sure EA doesn’t look at cheat reports and no longer bans players based on stats. I believe EA has concluded that manually reviewing cheat reports and player stats is too labor intensive and their employee’s time is better spent doing other tasks that are more productive to the company.

I base this on seeing rage aimbotters with a 75% headshot ratio with the Lewis LMG go unbanned for over 3 months. Despite the Battlefield community submitting dozens of individual reports.

PlayStation 5 here I come! Or maybe even Google Stadia if the mouse lag isn’t too bad.

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**Author:** ![RipperShark](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/rippershark/32/108144_2.png) [@RipperShark](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/RipperShark)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 5:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1243 "2019-05-20T17:03:00Z")

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Was playing Fortress a good bit this weekend, which is a relatively short game mode. Three times, the top squad went to a squad of one solo person who had over 50000 score. This is when the next top scorer in the game was around 5000. One of these guys did it having 0/0 k/d for the round too. But I guess these are just amazing players.

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**Author:** ![VincentNZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/ce7236/32.png) [@VincentNZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VincentNZ)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 6:12pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1244 "2019-05-20T18:12:00Z")

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> [@RipperShark](#):
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> Was playing Fortress a good bit this weekend, which is a relatively short game mode. Three times, the top squad went to a squad of one solo person who had over 50000 score. This is when the next top scorer in the game was around 5000. One of these guys did it having 0/0 k/d for the round too. But I guess these are just amazing players.

Spamming the flare will get you that far. 5 points for each spot, 25 for each kill spotted, 50 if you spot for your your own squad. If the killer is a proficient bomber this adds up fast. You can definitely get credited for every kill on that mode, since it is so small. The flare is so good on these modes that it allegedly got people banned on grind mode.^^

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**Author:** ![B0ng0\_Banger](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/b19c9b/32.png) [@B0ng0\_Banger](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/B0ng0_Banger)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 7:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1245 "2019-05-20T19:01:00Z")

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> [@VincentNZ](#):
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> > Was playing Fortress a good bit this weekend, which is a relatively short game mode. Three times, the top squad went to a squad of one solo person who had over 50000 score. This is when the next top scorer in the game was around 5000. One of these guys did it having 0/0 k/d for the round too. But I guess these are just amazing players.
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> Spamming the flare will get you that far. 5 points for each spot, 25 for each kill spotted, 50 if you spot for your your own squad. If the killer is a proficient bomber this adds up fast. You can definitely get credited for every kill on that mode, since it is so small. The flare is so good on these modes that it allegedly got people banned on grind mode.^^

it’s definitely possible to top the score board spamming the flare but 50,000, no chance. and grind mode was better but i would guess around 20k maximum was possible.

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**Author:** ![Madnesis](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/5e9695/32.png) [@Madnesis](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Madnesis)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1246 "2019-05-21T19:30:00Z")

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> [@RipperShark](#):
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> Was playing Fortress a good bit this weekend, which is a relatively short game mode. Three times, the top squad went to a squad of one solo person who had over 50000 score. This is when the next top scorer in the game was around 5000. One of these guys did it having 0/0 k/d for the round too. But I guess these are just amazing players.

The same happened to me: [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](https://imgur.com/a/WcRktLF)

I have been playing recon lately and no way he could have achieved what you guys mentioned with the flare gun in a legit way, it’s not that OP. The dude was alone in his squad.

Funny enough (or not) the dude was saying that it was a new cheat on the chat I told him he was funny but it appears he was true at the end.

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**Author:** ![Netranger9](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/netranger9/32/102119_2.png) [@Netranger9](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Netranger9)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 1:09am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1247 "2019-05-22T01:09:00Z")

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A guy went 306/10 last night,sigh.

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**Author:** ![g0merpile](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/g0merpile/32/102030_2.png) [@g0merpile](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/g0merpile)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 9:59am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1248 "2019-05-22T09:59:00Z")

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> [@Netranger9](#):
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> A guy went 306/10 last night,sigh.

There was plenty of cheaters last night.

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**Author:** ![A\_al\_K\_pacino\_A](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@A\_al\_K\_pacino\_A](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/A_al_K_pacino_A)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 10:06am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1249 "2019-05-22T10:06:00Z")

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at least some are getting banned as the thread just down this page proves. Its the one that are missed I dont get.

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**Author:** ![TNA\_SneakyMonkey](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/54ee81/32.png) [@TNA\_SneakyMonkey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TNA_SneakyMonkey)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 10:12am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1250 "2019-05-22T10:12:00Z")

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> [@Netranger9](#):
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> A guy went 306/10 last night,sigh.

That would confirmation bias, it seems. 😉

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**Author:** ![g0merpile](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/g0merpile/32/102030_2.png) [@g0merpile](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/g0merpile)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 10:15am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1251 "2019-05-22T10:15:00Z")

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Its official Please read here [https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/Sli-and-banned/m-p/7885816#M14214](https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/Sli-and-banned/m-p/7885816#M14214)

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**Author:** ![Elprez11](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/dbc845/32.png) [@Elprez11](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Elprez11)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 2:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1252 "2019-05-22T14:21:00Z")

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Was playing deathmatch. Were getting dominated for 4 games 140-0, 130-0…etc…several on the other team looked suspicious. Constantly knowing where I was and shooting as they rounded corners. I called one of them out. Suddenly the guy goes from 11-0 to 18-8. I called him out on that. To me that points to cheating more than anything. He basically has ZERO deaths for multiple games/maps and than after calling him out he all of the sudden starts getting killed. It was also funny that we won that match. It seems that a few other players on his team suddenly started dying.

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**Author:** ![Madnesis](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/5e9695/32.png) [@Madnesis](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Madnesis)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 5:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1253 "2019-05-22T17:34:00Z")

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If someone has a spare minute, please post/up/do whatever you want that _may_ help to get attention of the cheaters problem in the thread I created in EA Support Forum: [https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/Anti-Cheat-Approach-in-Battlefield-V-Did-you-gave-up/m-p/7886780#M14223](https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/Anti-Cheat-Approach-in-Battlefield-V-Did-you-gave-up/m-p/7886780#M14223)

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![RichardSinerface](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/ad7895/32.png) [@RichardSinerface](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/RichardSinerface)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 11:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1254 "2019-05-22T23:13:00Z")

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> [@Madnesis](#):
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> If someone has a spare minute, please post/up/do whatever you want that _may_ help to get attention of the cheaters problem in the thread I created in EA Support Forum: [https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/Anti-Cheat-Approach-in-Battlefield-V-Did-you-gave-up/m-p/7886780#M14223](https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/Anti-Cheat-Approach-in-Battlefield-V-Did-you-gave-up/m-p/7886780#M14223)
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> Thanks.

I posted on your thread. More constructive than the dude posting an official reply from November. Sad that the official replies are either months old or say absolutely nothing.

I rarely even fire Bf5 up anymore. Probably going to move it off my SSD

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**Author:** ![ETHVRX](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/49beb7/32.png) [@ETHVRX](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ETHVRX)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 6:40am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1255 "2019-05-23T06:40:00Z")

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Dear GM of BF V, This game isn’t cheap so I hope you will give the After-sales service better for us.

I was enjoying this game so far but now cheaters become increasing every day. The regulation must be strictly for banning these scammers that are ruining other player’s feeling toward this game.

I’m playing in Asia servers and I think this is the main reason that people have left this game recently. I know that it already has a report suspicion but it is very inconvenient.

Please…make it more convenient for reporting cheaters by making an option to report cheaters in the game instantly or else!

Vote this topic up to support our rights to play a fair fight.

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**Author:** ![OskooI\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/oskooi_007/32/103046_2.png) [@OskooI\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/OskooI_007)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 3:09am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1256 "2019-05-24T03:09:00Z")

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Well I have a positive story to tell.

Was playing BF1 tonight. Reported a guy who I suspected of being a wallhacker. He just seemed to know where everyone was.

Next map loads up and at the beginning of the round I see the FairFight message banning him from the server.

Probably the one and only time that will ever happen. 🙂 Don’t know if it was me reporting him or not, but it sure felt good.

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**Author:** ![MachoFantast1c0](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/machofantast1c0/32/100978_2.png) [@MachoFantast1c0](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MachoFantast1c0)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 4:08am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1257 "2019-05-24T04:08:00Z")

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> [@OskooI\_007](#):
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> Well I have a positive story to tell.
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> Was playing BF1 tonight. Reported a guy who I suspected of being a wallhacker. He just seemed to know where everyone was.
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> Next map loads up and at the beginning of the round I see the FairFight message banning him from the server.
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> Probably the one and only time that will ever happen. 🙂 Don’t know if it was me reporting him or not, but it sure felt good.

BF1 has been surprisingly clean, but hearing it actually doing something feels nice nonetheless.

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**Author:** ![KumanoChinpei](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/49beb7/32.png) [@KumanoChinpei](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KumanoChinpei)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1258 "2019-05-24T19:44:00Z")

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You are lucky if you dont find a cheater in asian server. Really horrible.

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**Author:** ![Blutfleisch](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/blutfleisch/32/108010_2.png) [@Blutfleisch](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Blutfleisch)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 10:40am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1259 "2019-05-25T10:40:00Z")

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> [@KumanoChinpei](#):
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> You are lucky if you dont find a cheater in asian server. Really horrible.

Problem is everywhere, not only asia. Last night (EU), there was people Rank 0-15, that used the new anti-material rifle ‘‘Boys’’, and killing everyone across maps. Arras was a horror show. As soon as me and my squadie and friend from Origin, we we’re spawned, kaboom, both dead. Result? My mate’s last words in squad chat was after 15mins: ‘‘That’s it. I’m done with bfv’’, then quited it. When i see at global leaderboards one specific player, with nearly 900 rounds, under diff accounts, with insane SPM’s, and still playing, well, gj Dice.

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**Author:** ![CaptHotah](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@CaptHotah](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CaptHotah)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 10:56am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1260 "2019-05-25T10:56:00Z")

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> [@OskooI\_007](#):
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> Well I have a positive story to tell.
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> Was playing BF1 tonight. Reported a guy who I suspected of being a wallhacker. He just seemed to know where everyone was.
> 
> Next map loads up and at the beginning of the round I see the FairFight message banning him from the server.
> 
> Probably the one and only time that will ever happen. 🙂 Don’t know if it was me reporting him or not, but it sure felt good.

Yeah, too bad this ain’t BF1 issue discussion , is it?

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