# I hate to admit it but there are cheaters in this game currently

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**Category:** PC\
**Created:** [November 22, 2018, 2:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665 "2018-11-22T02:26:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![TheDudeAbides333](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thedudeabides333/32/108182_2.png) [@TheDudeAbides333](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TheDudeAbides333)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 12:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1261 "2019-05-25T12:22:00Z")

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Another Dice employee was let go. I’m not going to name and shame this man but the reason given was redundancy. Let’s be honest, the real reason was poor sales and poor player retention.  
Battlefield is in a bad place right now and I really hope it will recover.  
Though, until the CEO’s of both EA and Dice can pull their heads out of places unseen by the sun, I see nothing but poor sales and poor player retention. Both PC and console are suffering from people cheating and all it does is diminish the reputation of the company and the game title. This hammers the stock and the value of the company.  
Cheating hurts the bottom line.

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**Author:** ![stabbinhobo](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@stabbinhobo](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/stabbinhobo)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 5:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1262 "2019-05-25T17:13:00Z")

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> [@TheDudeAbides333](#):
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> Another Dice employee was let go. I’m not going to name and shame this man but the reason given was redundancy. Let’s be honest, the real reason was poor sales and poor player retention.  
> Battlefield is in a bad place right now and I really hope it will recover.  
> Though, until the CEO’s of both EA and Dice can pull their heads out of places unseen by the sun, I see nothing but poor sales and poor player retention. Both PC and console are suffering from people cheating and all it does is diminish the reputation of the company and the game title. This hammers the stock and the value of the company.  
> Cheating hurts the bottom line.

If I was looking to scuttle a company and devalue it’s stock on purpose, I’d use BF5 as a blueprint.

Viewed from a mile high.. this is more comical than the movie The Major League. Where’s my Willie Mays Hayes skin?

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**Author:** ![Hercules728](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Hercules728](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Hercules728)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 6:12pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1263 "2019-05-25T18:12:00Z")

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> [@TheDudeAbides333](#):
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> Another Dice employee was let go. I’m not going to name and shame this man but the reason given was redundancy. Let’s be honest, the real reason was poor sales and poor player retention.  
> Battlefield is in a bad place right now and I really hope it will recover.  
> Though, until the CEO’s of both EA and Dice can pull their heads out of places unseen by the sun, I see nothing but poor sales and poor player retention. Both PC and console are suffering from people cheating and all it does is diminish the reputation of the company and the game title. This hammers the stock and the value of the company.  
> Cheating hurts the bottom line.

With a failed business strategy this is no surprise . The decision makers should all be fired . I guess they were banking on this game being a success just because it has a BF title . This game is really good , with proper management and proper upgrades this could have been their best game ever . When you repeat mistakes ( BF1 ) just to make a few extra dollars you will lose ever time … even your job . EA has also lost loyal customers who will never come back . What a shame .

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**Author:** ![Micas99](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/micas99/32/102800_2.png) [@Micas99](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Micas99)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 6:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1264 "2019-05-25T18:38:00Z")

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Interesting to see that someone saw a FF ban in BF1. Anybody see such ban messages in BF5? I don’t know how contracting for FF works, but maybe it’s on a per-game basis and Dice decided not to license it for BF5 to save money. I’ve seen some stat resets recently in BF4, so is looks like FF is active there.

In any case.. not good enough. I still think that next gen of consoles could be the savior of the PC shooter crowd. Were I a designer of a console, stealing that PC audience would be something I’d want to do. You can get better sales for your new console if you give that group a reason to make the switch, so the console would have to be very configurable and support MNK.. all things I think the next PS and XB will do.

But ya.. still just looking at the BF5 stats, it’s hilarious how bad the AC in BF5 is.. if there is anything at all. I still want my money back.

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**Author:** ![TFBisquit](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/f07891/32.png) [@TFBisquit](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TFBisquit)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1265 "2019-05-25T19:29:00Z")

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There are still no ban messages in BFV. They were supposedly working on something like that though.

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**Author:** ![StarscreamUK](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@StarscreamUK](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/StarscreamUK)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 5:34am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1266 "2019-05-26T05:34:00Z")

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It is working in BFV, those banned by it still post on the forum, although we move those posts as they never end well. It just doesnt display any message to other users in game.

I think thats a mistake personally.

I think the original method of it posting “ has been banned by fairfight” was fine. But then it got reduced to “a player has been banned by fairfight” and then further reduced to nothing at all.

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**Author:** ![parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/parkingbrake)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 6:18am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1267 "2019-05-26T06:18:00Z")

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> [@StarscreamUK](#):
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> It is working in BFV, those banned by it still post on the forum, although we move those posts as they never end well. It just doesnt display any message to other users in game.
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> I think thats a mistake personally.
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> I think the original method of it posting “ has been banned by fairfight” was fine. But then it got reduced to “a player has been banned by fairfight” and then further reduced to nothing at all.

EA needs to grow a spine, this business about privacy policy is hogwash. If PUBG can send out messages to players who report cheaters confirming the cheaters have been banned, there is no reason for EA to act like listing banned screen names is going to result in waves of crippling lawsuits (like there is any chance WG\_hAxBoy85723786 has a heavy-duty law firm on retainer and can show damages beyond $60.00).

Human nature being as it is, we perceive silence as inaction. I get the impression cheating is getting worse, I’m seeing more and more rank 0-10 players who are crushing servers like they’re tournament pros. And that’s aside from the well-known suspicious players in one-man locked squads who go 137-2 every round as infantry and seemingly can do that for months. Couple that with EA’s radio silence on this issue and it’s easy to think this game is sliding into a swamp where legit players will just give up and leave.

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**Author:** ![Jinko\_itx](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/f14d63/32.png) [@Jinko\_itx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jinko_itx)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 6:31am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1268 "2019-05-26T06:31:00Z")

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> [@TheDudeAbides333](#):
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> Cheating hurts the bottom line.

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**Author:** ![parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/parkingbrake)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 7:58am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1269 "2019-05-26T07:58:00Z")

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> [@Blutfleisch](#):
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> > [@KumanoChinpei](#):
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> > You are lucky if you dont find a cheater in asian server. Really horrible.
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> Problem is everywhere, not only asia. Last night (EU), there was people Rank 0-15, that used the new anti-material rifle ‘‘Boys’’, and killing everyone across maps. Arras was a horror show. As soon as me and my squadie and friend from Origin, we we’re spawned, kaboom, both dead. Result? My mate’s last words in squad chat was after 15mins: ‘‘That’s it. I’m done with bfv’’, then quited it. When i see at global leaderboards one specific player, with nearly 900 rounds, under diff accounts, with insane SPM’s, and still playing, well, gj Dice.

It’s worse in Asia however, it would be pointless to pretend otherwise. There was a time when Russia had the reputation of contributing a lot of cheaters to online gaming, then Brazil became known for that, lately it’s China. What all three have in common is they are oligarchies, societies in which average people need to know how to get around the rules just to get by much less prosper. So if you’ve grown up in a culture in which bribery and nepotism and corruption are part of everyday life, you aren’t going to think cheating in a video game is a big deal. I’ve seen photos of internet cafes in China with “helper software” installed on the PCs for customers to use in various games, PUBG being a popular example–you can see that every opponent is being outlined by a wall hack. More than half of all PUBG players are in China, and for several reasons they like to play in other regions, so between the out-of-region lag and the cheating I found it easy to walk away from that game. That’s why I’ve been hoping BFV doesn’t become a hit in China. But lately I’m seeing more and more players from Asia in the few west-coast servers. Knowing that EA doesn’t care much about cheating and also doesn’t care about high-latency players ruining games with their lag, this is not a positive sign for this game’s future. When we had rented servers, admins could deal with this. If the new RSP doesn’t include the ability/right to kick or block high latency players, then it will be pointless.

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**Author:** ![TNA\_SneakyMonkey](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/54ee81/32.png) [@TNA\_SneakyMonkey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TNA_SneakyMonkey)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 8:31am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1270 "2019-05-26T08:31:00Z")

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Since the previous patch, which dropped the switch from client-side to server-side hit detection to 120ms, it’s _really_ hard to play OOR and have an enjoyable experience.

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**Author:** ![BritanniaViking](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/britanniaviking/32/101419_2.png) [@BritanniaViking](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BritanniaViking)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1271 "2019-05-26T19:37:00Z")

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So Suspect! The paid hack does not show ESP boxes in recordings or live streams.

[![Video: How I improved my Sniping in Battlefield V](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/d/d/dd7cc6188625507ee560bf7dd1b3cd3b3a85370b.jpeg "How I improved my Sniping in Battlefield V") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBKn2tOYhe0)

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**Author:** ![TyroneLoyd](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tyroneloyd/32/103927_2.png) [@TyroneLoyd](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TyroneLoyd)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 7:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1272 "2019-05-26T19:48:00Z")

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Here we go again…

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**Author:** ![impulsive\_tango](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/aeb1de/32.png) [@impulsive\_tango](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/impulsive_tango)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 7:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1273 "2019-05-26T19:51:00Z")

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> [@BritanniaViking](#):
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> So Suspect! The paid hack does not show ESP boxes in recordings or live streams.  
> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBKn2tOYhe0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBKn2tOYhe0)

Jackfrags uses a hack. If you slow the video down (way down) to like 3 to 5 frames, you see the rife twitch to the target. Why then not all headshots? Simple then it looks obvious.

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**Author:** ![TyroneLoyd](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tyroneloyd/32/103927_2.png) [@TyroneLoyd](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TyroneLoyd)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 7:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1274 "2019-05-26T19:53:00Z")

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And another one joins the fray. Man you guys are on a roll #sarcasm

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**Author:** ![Jinko\_itx](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/f14d63/32.png) [@Jinko\_itx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jinko_itx)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1275 "2019-05-26T19:54:00Z")

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> [@BritanniaViking](#):
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> So Suspect! The paid hack does not show ESP boxes in recordings or live streams.  
> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBKn2tOYhe0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBKn2tOYhe0)

yea I kinda have to agree, he just quickly scopes an area, knowing that there is a player there…lol its almost like he can see a cm of a player from great distances and badabing, dead.

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**Author:** ![Hercules728](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Hercules728](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Hercules728)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1276 "2019-05-26T19:56:00Z")

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> [@impulsive\_tango](#):
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> > [@BritanniaViking](#):
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> > So Suspect! The paid hack does not show ESP boxes in recordings or live streams.  
> > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBKn2tOYhe0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBKn2tOYhe0)
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> Jackfrags uses a hack. If you slow the video down (way down) to like 3 to 5 frames, you see the rife twitch to the target. Why then not all headshots? Simple then it looks obvious.

> [@impulsive\_tango](#):
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> > [@BritanniaViking](#):
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> > So Suspect! The paid hack does not show ESP boxes in recordings or live streams.  
> > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBKn2tOYhe0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBKn2tOYhe0)
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> Jackfrags uses a hack. If you slow the video down (way down) to like 3 to 5 frames, you see the rife twitch to the target. Why then not all headshots? Simple then it looks obvious.

Look at the kill at 1.05 at the clip . I see the flash of the gun . I would not see the muzzle flash jumping through a window running full speed , seeing a target which is not visible through 4 of my own players and then getting a head shot through the smoke . I guess he is breathing properly ? Garbage

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**Author:** ![impulsive\_tango](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/aeb1de/32.png) [@impulsive\_tango](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/impulsive_tango)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1277 "2019-05-26T20:02:00Z")

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> [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](#):
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> And another one joins the fray. Man you guys are on a roll #sarcasm

I laugh at the people who watch YT people like jackfrags and actually think hes acculturate.

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**Author:** ![Picharski](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/picharski/32/108125_2.png) [@Picharski](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Picharski)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 8:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1278 "2019-05-26T20:03:00Z")

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I reported this guy, does reporting help? he went 213 and 8, hip shooting everyone. I couldn’t play the game anymore, wasn’t fun. I hope Dice realizes it cuts into any potential profits when players ruin the game for others.

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**Author:** ![TyroneLoyd](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tyroneloyd/32/103927_2.png) [@TyroneLoyd](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TyroneLoyd)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 8:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1279 "2019-05-26T20:09:00Z")

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Well if you people understood what micro adjustments are we wouldnt be having this conversation about Jackfrags(whom I feel like I’m slightly better than on average). Then again I enjoy watching potatos comment on something of which they are over analyzing.  
Might as well analyze my videos in the process.

[![Video: 211 Kill Grand Operations - Personal Record!!](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/0/7/07fc8ab0d6b6db2eaef4b573298302aae04affc0.jpeg "211 Kill Grand Operations - Personal Record!!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pMiWQXw_GM)

[![Video: 82-10 The Bren is just to sexy](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/7/c/7c6d9118590806252e843bc30df3052fa055f330.jpeg "82-10 The Bren is just to sexy") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRAT9GJI2CA)

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**Author:** ![TyroneLoyd](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tyroneloyd/32/103927_2.png) [@TyroneLoyd](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TyroneLoyd)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 8:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1280 "2019-05-26T20:11:00Z")

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> [@Picharski](#):
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> I reported this guy, does reporting help? he went 213 and 8, hip shooting everyone. I couldn’t play the game anymore, wasn’t fun. I hope Dice realizes it cuts into any potential profits when players ruin the game for others.

Currently we dont really know if reporting helps or not. I’m sure it does (barely) but looking at the leaderboards paint a different picture.

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