# I hate to admit it but there are cheaters in this game currently

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**Category:** PC\
**Created:** [November 22, 2018, 2:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665 "2018-11-22T02:26:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bryjo3](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/9f8e36/32.png) [@Bryjo3](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Bryjo3)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 6:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1341 "2019-05-28T18:06:00Z")

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> [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](#):
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> “Who cares”
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> Well maybe the individuals that keeps posting every Jackfrags video claiming hes cheating in this thread. Call outs immediately ignite conversation which is supposed to be against forum rules but guess what it still happens. Next time turn around and talk to the person brandishing the flamethrower

And those individuals are wrong. Jackfrags is clean, he’s a good FPS player with a background in CSGO. I wouldn’t say this extends to all players, but I won’t bring up my opinion again on them. Fact remains, this game has about the most ineffective anti-cheat for ANY AAA shooter on the market.

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**Author:** ![OskooI\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/oskooi_007/32/103046_2.png) [@OskooI\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/OskooI_007)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1342 "2019-05-28T18:08:00Z")

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Can’t wait for the PlayStation 5 to come out so I never have to visit threads like this again. 🙂 I’m slow cooking chicken breasts instead of playing BF1 because the same aimbotter who’s been raging for 3+ months joined my server, again.

I run into him every day. He has 20,000+ kills and a 75% headshot ratio with the Lewis LMG. I report him every day. Others report him every day. 3 months later he’s still playing.

GG FairFight. GG DICE. GG EA.

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**Author:** ![Micas99](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/micas99/32/102800_2.png) [@Micas99](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Micas99)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1343 "2019-05-28T18:08:00Z")

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> [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](#):
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> “Who cares”
> 
> Well maybe the individuals that keeps posting every Jackfrags video claiming hes cheating in this thread. Call outs immediately ignite conversation which is supposed to be against forum rules but guess what it still happens. Next time turn around and talk to the person brandishing the flamethrower

It’s all so much pearl clutching.

What is the plan for the implementation of effective anti-cheat in BF PC games? Dice?

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**Author:** ![JPhysics](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jphysics/32/102429_2.png) [@JPhysics](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JPhysics)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1344 "2019-05-28T18:21:00Z")

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> [@CooolBreeze](#):
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> The hilarious part is that Dice and EA have already won. 245 pages of cheating complaints and now the thread turns into posts about specific individuals and if they are really that good or not. The problem is and remains that without a robust anti-cheat, there is nearly no way to tell who is “pro” from a cheat. I think that Dice should provide some servers for pros and cheats to duke it out the same way SNL did the all drug Olympics.

I mentioned _nothing productive will become of this thread_ a long time ago, and it hasn’t. People had the illusion that if they make enough noise here you will be heard. EA/Dice only respond to loss of profits or PR coverage that threaten that, this forum does neither. Further more if debates are rife with red herrings then there is even less chance of them being taken seriously. If they truly cared what their player base thought upon this or any other major subject, we wouldn’t be having this conversation … and round and round we go 😃

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**Author:** ![Bryjo3](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/9f8e36/32.png) [@Bryjo3](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Bryjo3)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1345 "2019-05-28T18:48:00Z")

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> [@OskooI\_007](#):
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> Can’t wait for the PlayStation 5 to come out so I never have to visit threads like this again. 🙂 I’m slow cooking chicken breasts instead of playing BF1 because the same aimbotter who’s been raging for 3+ months joined my server, again.
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> I run into him every day. He has 20,000+ kills and a 75% headshot ratio with the Lewis LMG. I report him every day. Others report him every day. 3 months later he’s still playing.
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> GG FairFight. GG DICE. GG EA.

I am honestly debating it as well. I have grown to love the control of the mouse on PC, but console is just so much less stress. Less stress, less hardware upgrades, virtually NO cheaters. At the end of the day, I still just love playing shooters (all games really) on the PC and it’s really hard to go back to console. I will have the man cave set up with a 75 inch HDR flatscreen in the fall and maybe then I can see if consoles are worth it.

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**Author:** ![OskooI\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/oskooi_007/32/103046_2.png) [@OskooI\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/OskooI_007)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1346 "2019-05-28T19:27:00Z")

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Hopefully Battlefield has native mouse and keyboard support on PlayStation 5. I’ll be bummed if it doesn’t. Hopefully PS5’s implementation of Freesync is up to snuff too.

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**Author:** ![parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/parkingbrake)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1347 "2019-05-28T19:56:00Z")

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> [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](#):
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> > [@JPhysics](#):
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> > What does almost certainly mean? Is that like a definitely maybe lol?  
> > It doesn’t surprise me to find that some people think Rela cheats. I wouldn’t vouch for anyone other myself or others I have stood next to, but I encountered him a couple times in BF4 and the guy is a complete war machine, watched alot of his videos too. I think he is probably is one of the best infantry players personally, people at the top of their game can often do things perceived as impossible.
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> I’m speaking on the basis that both of them worked for dice so the benefit of the doubt is given (unsure if relaa still does).  
> Seeing people aim like this in person (which I have) is ridiculous. Friend of mine back in the a.v.a days used to use a peice of taped cardboard as a mouse pad but had the same level of aim I had when I was peaking. Pure nutty ability some people have. Wish he actually applied that but life happens.

There are indeed players exceptionally good, with physical and mental abilities that might have been bio-engineered for video gaming. When that is combined with the determination to play until their eyes fall out, and to study gaming techniques, and to learn each game they play so they know every line of fire on the map, the result is someone with abilities so far beyond what most of us have that it is like watching a big league baseball pitcher as opposed to some guy tossing softballs for his kid to hit.

Some folks will say pro players don’t cheat because they don’t have to, they really are that good. Or they don’t cheat because they have too much to lose, like sponsorships or membership on a team. And then right before a big CS:GO tournament several top players on top teams are banned for using a particularly difficult to detect hack. Or 170 pro players are banned from the UGC league when an update to VAC makes it possible to spot a hack that had been undetectable. Or PUBG Corp. bans 14 pro players and their teams when it figures out how to detect a previously difficult to identify radar cheat.

There’s the problem, “pros” keep providing proof that some of them in fact do use hacks. So human nature being as it is, we can’t help but wonder how many more there are who just haven’t been caught yet. Add to that the compulsion some players suffer from to call hack on a daily basis, and the undeniable presence of blatant cheaters in this (and every other) game, and some companies like PUBG Corp. being open about the cheating problem while EA maintains radio silence–in the end the water is so muddied that it can be hard for us to know what to think. But given that clearly there are people willing to risk lucrative careers as pro gamers by cheating, perhaps saying that because someone has worked for a particular company must mean he’s above suspicion is not a very convincing argument. Money, status, ego–all powerful motivations. If members of top tournament teams will cheat despite having the eyes of a large gaming community focused on them, then nobody gets a pass because of how many viewers his stream gets or which team he belongs to or which company he’s worked for.

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**Author:** ![Ungineer](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/f04885/32.png) [@Ungineer](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Ungineer)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 8:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1348 "2019-05-28T20:18:00Z")

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Been playing Battlefield since the BF 2142 game. One of the last matches I played in BFV, a level 7 went 105 kills and 4 deaths while on foot. There are only a few tanks at the Conquest Rotterdam Map and the POS was never in one. Love getting killed by a pistol with no line of sight at 200 yds. Dice’s anti cheat detection doesn’t exist. I’ve had enough of Dice’s lame cheat protection, so I sold my 1080ti and used the cash to buy a brand new Xbox One X and still had over a hundred bucks left. I won’t be playing any of the Dice titles on XBox. I’m going to stick with Microsoft titles. If you get caught cheating they will ban your machine. Maybe someday in the future I’ll be back. Until then.

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**Author:** ![Micas99](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/micas99/32/102800_2.png) [@Micas99](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Micas99)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 8:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1349 "2019-05-28T20:41:00Z")

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> [@OskooI\_007](#):
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> Hopefully Battlefield has native mouse and keyboard support on PlayStation 5. I’ll be bummed if it doesn’t. Hopefully PS5’s implementation of Freesync is up to snuff too.

I’d be surprised if the next consoles aren’t built to compete with mid-range PCs.. meaning MNK, and things like 21:9 aspect ratios (please!), higher refresh rates and v-sync control. I think that would get a big portion of the cheaters out of the games. Still need to be able to control input shenanigans though. If it’s possible, people will cheat.

And hey.. if that day comes and I’m convinced the play is clean, I’ll eat crow if the grand total of 3 people I’ve hackusated in BF5 are still good at shooters.

If anybody wants to see a nice example of how I catch cheats.. like the somewhat difficult one from yesterday, shoot me a PM.

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**Author:** ![STOPchris](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@STOPchris](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/STOPchris)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 4:14am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1350 "2019-05-29T04:14:00Z")

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Another obvious one tonight… EA is the worst company in America for sure.

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**Author:** ![PonyCereal](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/e36b37/32.png) [@PonyCereal](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PonyCereal)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 6:44am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1351 "2019-05-29T06:44:00Z")

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Starting to see a lot of suspect players but spectate mode is literally broken now. Can’t go for more than 1-2 minutes before it crashes the game.

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**Author:** ![MsieurLeodagan](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/3da27b/32.png) [@MsieurLeodagan](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MsieurLeodagan)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 9:15am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1352 "2019-05-29T09:15:00Z")

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Before battlefield 1, with the dedicated private servers of the community (RSP Procon & plugins), the tools were more numerous to fight against cheaters.  
And especially the admins and their clans were much more involved in the game so the cheaters were more quickly shipped.

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**Author:** ![KatNasty](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/katnasty/32/102471_2.png) [@KatNasty](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KatNasty)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 3:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1353 "2019-05-29T15:28:00Z")

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Today I just decided to exit BFV after joining several ASIAN conquest servers only to find hackers in pretty much 9 out of 10 of em.  
With the current trend of ‘Tank Battles’, hackers can’t beat vehicles or use aimbots on them so they rather go balls to the wall in a Conquest one.  
Guys from the clan [name and shame] and [name and shame] proudly use hacks without a care. DO YOUR JOB DICE.

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**Author:** ![Ceph777](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/45deac/32.png) [@Ceph777](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Ceph777)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1354 "2019-05-29T18:37:00Z")

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> [@OskooI\_007](#):
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> Can’t wait for the PlayStation 5 to come out so I never have to visit threads like this again. 🙂 I’m slow cooking chicken breasts instead of playing BF1 because the same aimbotter who’s been raging for 3+ months joined my server, again.
> 
> I run into him every day. He has 20,000+ kills and a 75% headshot ratio with the Lewis LMG. I report him every day. Others report him every day. 3 months later he’s still playing.
> 
> GG FairFight. GG DICE. GG EA.

If they banned the cheats, the BF population would be cut in half!

OK OK it’s an exaggeration, the player base can not fathom as to why obvious cheaters are not being banned EA? You really have lost faith and dont be shocked when sales for your next game are even much much lower.

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**Author:** ![BritanniaViking](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/britanniaviking/32/101419_2.png) [@BritanniaViking](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BritanniaViking)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 10:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1355 "2019-05-29T22:14:00Z")

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How does he spot the two enemies through a rock? at 14:10

[![Video: Battlefield V Mercury Gameplay - NEW Map releases early](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/1/9/192a3bc0551bfb95a81c27748a3de15806c07944.jpeg "Battlefield V Mercury Gameplay - NEW Map releases early") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OU3Beu77MI)

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**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 10:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1356 "2019-05-29T22:22:00Z")

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> [@BritanniaViking](#):
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> How does he spot the two enemies through a rock? at 14:10

To my eye, He had already spotted them before he went behind the rock.

I can spot one right away in full screen.

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**Author:** ![CaptHotah](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@CaptHotah](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CaptHotah)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1357 "2019-05-29T22:37:00Z")

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> [@BritanniaViking](#):
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> How does he spot the two enemies through a rock? at 14:10
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> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OU3Beu77MI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OU3Beu77MI)

If you think Jack is hacking then you don’t know how a hacker looks like.

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**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 10:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1358 "2019-05-29T22:51:00Z")

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Here…

Slowed it down for you.

[https://gfycat.com/HardHeavyDamselfly](https://gfycat.com/HardHeavyDamselfly)

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**Author:** ![JPhysics](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jphysics/32/102429_2.png) [@JPhysics](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JPhysics)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 11:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1359 "2019-05-29T23:28:00Z")

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> [@LOLGotYerTags](#):
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> Here…
> 
> Slowed it down for you.
> 
> [https://gfycat.com/HardHeavyDamselfly](https://gfycat.com/HardHeavyDamselfly)

Exactly, some players situation awareness is sharper than others. You can also tell roughly how many enemy are on the flag area by the flag-o-meter too.

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**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 11:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hate-to-admit-it-but-there-are-cheaters-in-this-game-currently/107665/1360 "2019-05-29T23:55:00Z")

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> [@JPhysics](#):
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> > [@LOLGotYerTags](#):
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> > Here…
> > 
> > Slowed it down for you.
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> > [https://gfycat.com/HardHeavyDamselfly](https://gfycat.com/HardHeavyDamselfly)
> 
> Exactly, some players situation awareness is sharper than others. You can also tell roughly how many enemy are on the flag area by the flag-o-meter too.

I spotted that one guy so easily, But it was also pretty quick.. Peek out → unpeek behind the rockface.

Then there was the fact the flag-o-meter which barely moved when Jack and his squadmate was on the flag, That instantly tells you that there is more than one player in the contested area.

People are far too quick to call hacks or be suspicious even on youtubers videos.

I’ve played against Jack and also been on the same squad as him and he’s pretty good, Nothing that would give me cause for concern re: cheating.

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