# I hope BF1 doesn't become another sniper infested game **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 22, 2016, 10:42am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hope-bf1-doesnt-become-another-sniper-infested-game/102391 "2016-06-22T10:42:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jelliedsoup](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/3be4f8/32.png) [@jelliedsoup](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/jelliedsoup)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 10:42am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hope-bf1-doesnt-become-another-sniper-infested-game/102391/1 "2016-06-22T10:42:00Z")
Just give a level of parity and there’s no problems. ---
**Author:** ![Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jihad_jockey/32/102395_2.png) [@Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jihad_Jockey)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 10:48am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hope-bf1-doesnt-become-another-sniper-infested-game/102391/2 "2016-06-22T10:48:00Z")
Balanced weapons has little effect on how a player wants to approach the game. If a player wants to snipe they will snipe, regardless of whether that gun is over powered or underpowered. A lot of players want to snipe. ---
**Author:** ![HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HaveThisRocket)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 10:56am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hope-bf1-doesnt-become-another-sniper-infested-game/102391/3 "2016-06-22T10:56:00Z")
As long as there are cowards there will be people who want to snipe ---
**Author:** ![oof14346](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/oof14346/32/103024_2.png) [@oof14346](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/oof14346)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 11:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hope-bf1-doesnt-become-another-sniper-infested-game/102391/4 "2016-06-22T11:16:00Z")
That reminds me, is there glint off of the recon’s sights in Bf1? I don’t recall seeing any in gameplay clips. ---
**Author:** ![Lancang\_L1ama](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lancang_l1ama/32/102607_2.png) [@Lancang\_L1ama](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lancang_L1ama)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 11:23am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hope-bf1-doesnt-become-another-sniper-infested-game/102391/5 "2016-06-22T11:23:00Z")
Yes. There is ---
**Author:** ![redzuluzulu0096](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@redzuluzulu0096](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/redzuluzulu0096)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 11:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hope-bf1-doesnt-become-another-sniper-infested-game/102391/6 "2016-06-22T11:24:00Z")
^glint is there. I’ve yet to experience this overall sniper problem. Not saying I haven’t seen useless recons, but i’ve seen useless people of all classes in every BF I’ve played. Like supports on Armored Shield in BF3 spending the whole match trying to jihad quad armour, engineers on the hills in Altai Range and Silk Road, etc etc etc. ![7FC47ECAD2B0BB7A02AA5881E443C04FF8F3AFCA](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/9/a/9a87ac8894f32f7f982b97ea8c0e929477f00cbb.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Peccath](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/peccath/32/103094_2.png) [@Peccath](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Peccath)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 12:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hope-bf1-doesnt-become-another-sniper-infested-game/102391/7 "2016-06-22T12:03:00Z")
> [@redzuluzulu0096](#): > > ^glint is there. > > I’ve yet to experience this overall sniper problem. Not saying I haven’t seen useless recons, but i’ve seen useless people of all classes in every BF I’ve played. > > Like supports on Armored Shield in BF3 spending the whole match trying to jihad quad armour, engineers on the hills in Altai Range and Silk Road, etc etc etc. The worst ones are those who camp with heavy armored vehicles at the same part of the map and never push towards the objectives. They’re not only being useless - like snipers - but also prevent their team from using their important assets to win the game. That being said, 95% of the useless players that I’ve ever seen have been snipers. ---
**Author:** ![adsinaction](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/6f9a4e/32.png) [@adsinaction](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/adsinaction)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 12:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hope-bf1-doesnt-become-another-sniper-infested-game/102391/8 "2016-06-22T12:40:00Z")
snipers are not the problem… The amount of competent players to counter them are. ---
**Author:** ![robkrush](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/a9adbd/32.png) [@robkrush](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/robkrush)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 12:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hope-bf1-doesnt-become-another-sniper-infested-game/102391/9 "2016-06-22T12:41:00Z")
It’s going to be worse than it was in bf4. The hype will cause a lot of new players, which is good in a way. Some of the newbies will be okay but many more will struggle and resort to sniping. There is a growing player base of snipers. I think that rather than shun them it may be time to embrace them and provide an outlet for their sniping needs. Sniper only severs, with other guns disabled. Maybe even a sniper gamemode (basically tdm on a conquest sized map). Those are just a few ideas. ---
**Author:** ![Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jihad_jockey/32/102395_2.png) [@Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jihad_Jockey)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 12:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hope-bf1-doesnt-become-another-sniper-infested-game/102391/10 "2016-06-22T12:44:00Z")
> [@adsinaction](#): > > snipers are not the problem… The amount of competent players to counter them are. The best way to counter a sniper is to ignore him and carry on with what you are doing. It takes zero skill to ignore somebody. Anybody is capable of countering a sniper. ---
**Author:** ![adsinaction](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/6f9a4e/32.png) [@adsinaction](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/adsinaction)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 12:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hope-bf1-doesnt-become-another-sniper-infested-game/102391/11 "2016-06-22T12:53:00Z")
> [@Jihad\_Jockey](#): > > > [@adsinaction](#): > > > > snipers are not the problem… The amount of competent players to counter them are. > > The best way to counter a sniper is to ignore him and carry on with what you are doing. > It takes zero skill to ignore somebody. Anybody is capable of countering a sniper. This might be the case for you personally. I however can count on my left hand how many I’ve actually seen or played against that I would consider capable. ---
**Author:** ![Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jihad_jockey/32/102395_2.png) [@Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jihad_Jockey)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 1:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hope-bf1-doesnt-become-another-sniper-infested-game/102391/12 "2016-06-22T13:17:00Z")
> [@adsinaction](#): > > > [@Jihad\_Jockey](#): > > > > > [@adsinaction](#): > > > > > > snipers are not the problem… The amount of competent players to counter them are. > > > > The best way to counter a sniper is to ignore him and carry on with what you are doing. > > It takes zero skill to ignore somebody. Anybody is capable of countering a sniper. > > This might be the case for you personally. I however can count on my left hand how many I’ve actually seen or played against that I would consider capable. I’m saying ignoring you would be better than wasting time trying to shoot you. Everybody is capable of ignoring a sniper in his base. Chances are he wont shoot you. However every game has morons, and its those morons that you are talking about. And its probably those morons that make up over 50% of every snipers total kills. ---
**Author:** ![Rotank](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/59ef9b/32.png) [@Rotank](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rotank)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 1:43pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hope-bf1-doesnt-become-another-sniper-infested-game/102391/13 "2016-06-22T13:43:00Z")
I’m a terrible sniper, long range or aggressive. I rarely play the recon class, I’m not effective at making the most out of the available gadgets, and my aim with a BA is horrendous. But on occasion, I get an itch to hump a hill with a high powered scope, plant a beacon, or just slap on a 4x practicing my headshots. I rarely get long range kills and my efforts at agro sniping would make a great comedy reel, but it’s also a lot of fun, and every elusive kill is incredibly satisfying. It would take me loooong time being useless and missing shots before I would be anything resembling a team asset as a sniper/recon, and I just don’t spend enough time with the class to get there. That’s why I do not begrudge hill-humpers and terrible players in general. The are either legitimately trying to practice getting better at a certain aspect of the game, or they are dabbling because it’s a mechanic that’s in the game that they are having a fun time utilizing it. People asking for it’s removal sound like petulant children. ---
**Author:** ![adsinaction](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/6f9a4e/32.png) [@adsinaction](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/adsinaction)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 1:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hope-bf1-doesnt-become-another-sniper-infested-game/102391/14 "2016-06-22T13:51:00Z")
@ rotank… That’s a great attitude and refreshing. The problem is that unlike yourself, the vast majority of players that downplay or trash talk sniping are those that simply are not proficient at it. Its a defense mechanism in my eyes. ---
**Author:** ![GhostStrykre](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/f07891/32.png) [@GhostStrykre](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GhostStrykre)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 2:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hope-bf1-doesnt-become-another-sniper-infested-game/102391/15 "2016-06-22T14:00:00Z")
> [@adsinaction](#): > > @ rotank… That’s a great attitude and refreshing. The problem is that unlike yourself, the vast majority of players that downplay or trash talk sniping are those that simply are not proficient at it. Its a defense mechanism in my eyes. Yeah. I’m the most angry about sniper when I’m being killed by them. Just like I’m the angriest about medics when they revive their whole squad. The cool thing here I’ve seen about bf1 is that the sniper rifles effective damage changes based on range. So close quarters the rifles will do way less damage than they would at their sweet spot range. So sniping from mega far away will be too far, and lower damage output. I like that. ---
**Author:** ![HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HaveThisRocket)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 2:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hope-bf1-doesnt-become-another-sniper-infested-game/102391/16 "2016-06-22T14:15:00Z")
> [@adsinaction](#): > > @ rotank… That’s a great attitude and refreshing. The problem is that unlike yourself, the vast majority of players that downplay or trash talk sniping are those that simply are not proficient at it. Its a defense mechanism in my eyes. Thats a bad argument.People trash talk snipers because they are useless.Why would they want to be proficient at something useless. A sniper having a superiority complex.Thats new ---
**Author:** ![Rotank](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/59ef9b/32.png) [@Rotank](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rotank)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 2:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hope-bf1-doesnt-become-another-sniper-infested-game/102391/17 "2016-06-22T14:20:00Z")
> [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > > [@adsinaction](#): > > > > @ rotank… That’s a great attitude and refreshing. The problem is that unlike yourself, the vast majority of players that downplay or trash talk sniping are those that simply are not proficient at it. Its a defense mechanism in my eyes. > > Thats a bad argument.People trash talk snipers because they are useless.Why would they want to be proficient at something useless. > > A sniper having a superiority complex.Thats new You’re a sniper, aren’t you? ---
**Author:** ![HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HaveThisRocket)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 2:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hope-bf1-doesnt-become-another-sniper-infested-game/102391/18 "2016-06-22T14:20:00Z")
> [@Rotank](#): > > > [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > > > > [@adsinaction](#): > > > > > > @ rotank… That’s a great attitude and refreshing. The problem is that unlike yourself, the vast majority of players that downplay or trash talk sniping are those that simply are not proficient at it. Its a defense mechanism in my eyes. > > > > Thats a bad argument.People trash talk snipers because they are useless.Why would they want to be proficient at something useless. > > > > A sniper having a superiority complex.Thats new > > You’re a sniper, aren’t you? No i only play engi ---
**Author:** ![Rotank](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/59ef9b/32.png) [@Rotank](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rotank)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 2:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hope-bf1-doesnt-become-another-sniper-infested-game/102391/19 "2016-06-22T14:24:00Z")
> [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > > [@Rotank](#): > > > > > [@HaveThisRocket](#): > > > > > > > [@adsinaction](#): > > > > > > > > @ rotank… That’s a great attitude and refreshing. The problem is that unlike yourself, the vast majority of players that downplay or trash talk sniping are those that simply are not proficient at it. Its a defense mechanism in my eyes. > > > > > > Thats a bad argument.People trash talk snipers because they are useless.Why would they want to be proficient at something useless. > > > > > > A sniper having a superiority complex.Thats new > > > > You’re a sniper, aren’t you? > > No i only play engi You only play 1 class in Battlefield? ---
**Author:** ![Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jihad_jockey/32/102395_2.png) [@Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jihad_Jockey)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 3:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hope-bf1-doesnt-become-another-sniper-infested-game/102391/20 "2016-06-22T15:01:00Z")
> [@adsinaction](#): > > @ rotank… That’s a great attitude and refreshing. The problem is that unlike yourself, the vast majority of players that downplay or trash talk sniping are those that simply are not proficient at it. Its a defense mechanism in my eyes. Not really, considering any sniper can change kit and be more useful to the team. Thats what most people dont like about snipers. Notice i said “more useful”, not “snipers are useless”. Granted people who dont snipe will not be as proficient at sniping. That’s obvious. I love when somebody on my team is laser designating targets. If I saw that more often i’d feel different about snipers. But most snipers are only concerned about themselves. Gotta get that headshot, right? [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-hope-bf1-doesnt-become-another-sniper-infested-game/102391.md?page=2)