# I know, no new content BUT...

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [July 26, 2020, 3:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-know-no-new-content-but/107564 "2020-07-26T15:36:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nutcrusherr](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/ccd318/32.png) [@Nutcrusherr](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Nutcrusherr)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 3:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-know-no-new-content-but/107564/1 "2020-07-26T15:36:00Z")

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But you cant leave this game like that.  
What we want:  
Ping limit, minimum a 100 but a 60 would be a nice middle ground.  
Dealing with voldemorts(dont you dare close this thread.)  
Fixing the stuck in death screen. Srsly, do i need to say more? How is this still an existing bug? Please enlighten me how the tech is not there yet to fix this…  
Did you really just closed down servers so we have to wait in a queue of 7-10 to get in the game we play and the game we still play regardless of all your poopy behavior? Really dice you need to get your poop together cos this is like rock freakin bottom now. are you serious?  
Give us normal private servers where we can set ping limit and all the other stuff, cos its clear to me that you wont help us dealing with all that and the voldemorts. Please have at least a bit of humanity, we paid for this product, we got like half of it, we would be still happy if everything was working in the way it was intended. its like buying a spoiled milk in the shop and we cant go back to return the product and get our money back cos we`re already banned from the shop. Fix this, we are the ones that keep buying your spoiled milk but we wont be here forever, okay? Please i freakin beg you to do the right thing, i love this piece of poop regardless, just do these fixes, its not even that hard, its not even that time consuming. Do The Right Thing!

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**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 4:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-know-no-new-content-but/107564/2 "2020-07-26T16:39:00Z")

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Correct, no new content but iirc there WILL be quality of life bugfixes and some extra stuff for community games.

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**Author:** ![X\_Sunslayer\_X](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/278dde/32.png) [@X\_Sunslayer\_X](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/X_Sunslayer_X)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 4:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-know-no-new-content-but/107564/3 "2020-07-26T16:44:00Z")

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> [@LOLGotYerTags](#):
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> Correct, no new content but iirc there WILL be quality of life bugfixes and some extra stuff for community games.

i would not hold my breath on these implementations, there has been no new infos regarding any of these to my knowledge and since DICE is in summer vacation mode i wouldn’t be surprised if they announced afterwords to delay everything indefinetly depending on how work on the next issue is well and truely underway

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**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 5:12pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-know-no-new-content-but/107564/4 "2020-07-26T17:12:00Z")

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> [@X\_Sunslayer\_X](#):
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> > [@LOLGotYerTags](#):
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> > Correct, no new content but iirc there WILL be quality of life bugfixes and some extra stuff for community games.
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> i would not hold my breath on these implementations, there has been no new infos regarding any of these to my knowledge and since DICE is in summer vacation mode i wouldn’t be surprised if they announced afterwords to delay everything indefinetly depending on how work on the next issue is well and truely underway

Generally, I find the saying “no news is good news”

There has been no news stating that these features are NOT coming.

In much the same light that there has NOT been any news relaying how far the additional community games features have been coming along.

I’m going to hazard a guess that there hasn’t been any news about it as the dev team responsible for community games are working flat out both on the implementation of the new features in BFV, And also for the next title.

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**Author:** ![Magikf1ngers](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/bbce88/32.png) [@Magikf1ngers](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Magikf1ngers)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 1:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-know-no-new-content-but/107564/5 "2020-07-27T13:46:00Z")

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> [@LOLGotYerTags](#):
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> Correct, no new content but iirc there WILL be quality of life bugfixes and some extra stuff for community games.

I’ll say it again. Don’t hold your breath. Abandoning games / fan bases by EA isn’t limited to Battlefield. They’ve said before that they were going to provide QOL updates, and things to keep the community engaged, but then they don’t do it.

I don’t believe anything coming out of EA when it comes to this type of thing.

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**Author:** ![TFBisquit](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/f07891/32.png) [@TFBisquit](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TFBisquit)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 10:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-know-no-new-content-but/107564/6 "2020-07-27T22:18:00Z")

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There are still weekly missions, and occasionally you can earn boins with them.  
As for fixes, they’ve done that since the beginning and actually made things worse.

But, if they can create some good playlists, with interesting maps, who knows.

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**Author:** ![emerson1975](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/a8b319/32.png) [@emerson1975](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/emerson1975)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 10:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-know-no-new-content-but/107564/7 "2020-07-27T22:48:00Z")

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Fixes in a game that’s been on the market for nearly 2 years!  
Lost for words is an understatement.  
Never again dice.

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**Author:** ![GrizzGolf](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/grizzgolf/32/102129_2.png) [@GrizzGolf](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GrizzGolf)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 8:09am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-know-no-new-content-but/107564/8 "2020-07-29T08:09:00Z")

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Man I wish they were some guns we had gotten we never did famous in WW2.

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**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 5:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-know-no-new-content-but/107564/9 "2020-07-29T17:20:00Z")

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I just want DLSS 2.0 to improve frames with RT enabled

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**Author:** ![Nutcrusherr](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/ccd318/32.png) [@Nutcrusherr](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Nutcrusherr)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 7:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-know-no-new-content-but/107564/10 "2020-07-29T19:19:00Z")

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> [@LOLGotYerTags](#):
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> I just want DLSS 2.0 to improve frames with RT enabled

Could not agree more. Its so much better then the previous version of it. Current one on bf5 makes it all blurry too.

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**Author:** ![talhaONE](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/54ee81/32.png) [@talhaONE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/talhaONE)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2020, 5:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-know-no-new-content-but/107564/11 "2020-07-31T17:35:00Z")

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Forget ping limit. Not every region has its own servers.

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**Author:** ![CrashCA](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crashca/32/100942_2.png) [@CrashCA](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CrashCA)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 9:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-know-no-new-content-but/107564/12 "2020-08-01T21:44:00Z")

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And WHY is this ?

_Edit: Definitely, rhetorical. 😉_

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**Author:** ![Magikf1ngers](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/bbce88/32.png) [@Magikf1ngers](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Magikf1ngers)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-know-no-new-content-but/107564/13 "2020-08-01T22:24:00Z")

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> [@CrashCA](#):
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> And WHY is this ?

If this isn’t a rhetorical question -

Because EA is cheap and greedy. They won’t allow RSPs so that people in those regions can set up their own servers instead of having the “community server” option that still routes everything through AWS / MS cloud services, and because they’re closing servers down in low populated regions to save money on bandwidth.

So those people that bought the game in those regions feel entitled to come to play on the American and other servers that are still running because they paid for the game, same as we did. I don’t blame them for feeling that way, but it does b0rk the experience for all of us.

Not only can it cause generalized server lag, but when they’re pinging ~200 and the rest of everyone is at 80 or below, the lag can look deceptively like they’re voldomorting, and it fosters the toxic environment that way because voldomorting is so rampant anyway (at least in the PC environment)

As a gamer in this situation - it’s just a complete no-win situation, whether it’s us complaining because of the laggy players from different regions, whether it’s people in other regions complaining because the servers in their area were shut down, or the toxic environment that’s fed because of the lag.

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**Author:** ![Nutcrusherr](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/ccd318/32.png) [@Nutcrusherr](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Nutcrusherr)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 7:58am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-know-no-new-content-but/107564/14 "2020-08-02T07:58:00Z")

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> [@Magikf1ngers](#):
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> (Quote)  
> If this isn’t a rhetorical question -
> 
> Because EA is cheap and greedy. They won’t allow RSPs so that people in those regions can set up their own servers instead of having the “community server” option that still routes everything through AWS / MS cloud services, and because they’re closing servers down in low populated regions to save money on bandwidth.
> 
> So those people that bought the game in those regions feel entitled to come to play on the American and other servers that are still running because they paid for the game, same as we did. I don’t blame them for feeling that way, but it does b0rk the experience for all of us.
> 
> Not only can it cause generalized server lag, but when they’re pinging ~200 and the rest of everyone is at 80 or below, the lag can look deceptively like they’re voldomorting, and it fosters the toxic environment that way because voldomorting is so rampant anyway (at least in the PC environment)
> 
> As a gamer in this situation - it’s just a complete no-win situation, whether it’s us complaining because of the laggy players from different regions, whether it’s people in other regions complaining because the servers in their area were shut down, or the toxic environment that’s fed because of the lag.

I guess a good middle ground would be servers WITH ping limit and servers WITHOUT ping limit so that every one would be happy..

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**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 10:18am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-know-no-new-content-but/107564/15 "2020-08-02T10:18:00Z")

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> [@emerson1975](#):
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> Fixes in a game that’s been on the market for nearly 2 years!  
> Lost for words is an understatement.  
> Never again dice.

There were fixes going on in BF4 for nearly 3 entire years and the game was still largely in a poor state well after the 1 year mark. And everybody now coddles that game like they owe it their life.

Bf5 hasn’t even been out 2 years yet. Literally every game in this franchise has received updates and fixes as long as BF5 has so far. At this time after release in regards to past games in this franchise (just over 1 1/2 years after launch of any given toitle), the next game in the franchise hadn’t even been released yet. It’s not uncommon for BF games to receive fixes this long after launch at all.

If that was really the “never again, DICE” moment, you wouldn’t have played two BF titles total.

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**Author:** ![MOSSAD-RECRUITER](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mossad-recruiter/32/106971_2.png) [@MOSSAD-RECRUITER](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MOSSAD-RECRUITER)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-know-no-new-content-but/107564/16 "2020-08-02T16:31:00Z")

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The number one problem - do not talk about fight club - is not gonna be dealt with. Been like that since Battlefront.

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**Author:** ![X\_Sunslayer\_X](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/278dde/32.png) [@X\_Sunslayer\_X](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/X_Sunslayer_X)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 4:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-know-no-new-content-but/107564/17 "2020-08-02T16:59:00Z")

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> [@Loqtrall](#):
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> > [@emerson1975](#):
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> > Fixes in a game that’s been on the market for nearly 2 years!  
> > Lost for words is an understatement.  
> > Never again dice.
> 
> There were fixes going on in BF4 for nearly 3 entire years and the game was still largely in a poor state well after the 1 year mark. And everybody now coddles that game like they owe it their life.
> 
> Bf5 hasn’t even been out 2 years yet. Literally every game in this franchise has received updates and fixes as long as BF5 has so far. At this time after release in regards to past games in this franchise (just over 1 1/2 years after launch of any given toitle), the next game in the franchise hadn’t even been released yet. It’s not uncommon for BF games to receive fixes this long after launch at all.
> 
> If that was really the “never again, DICE” moment, you wouldn’t have played two BF titles total.

i do not think we will see any meaningful updates and fixes to BFV anymore. if they even bother with the promised Community games update or teaqm-balancer. DICE threw in the towel for BFV and we all know why

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**Author:** ![Magikf1ngers](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/bbce88/32.png) [@Magikf1ngers](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Magikf1ngers)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 5:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-know-no-new-content-but/107564/18 "2020-08-02T17:30:00Z")

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> [@Nutcrusherr](#):
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> > [@Magikf1ngers](#):
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> > (Quote)  
> > If this isn’t a rhetorical question -
> > 
> > Because EA is cheap and greedy. They won’t allow RSPs so that people in those regions can set up their own servers instead of having the “community server” option that still routes everything through AWS / MS cloud services, and because they’re closing servers down in low populated regions to save money on bandwidth.
> > 
> > So those people that bought the game in those regions feel entitled to come to play on the American and other servers that are still running because they paid for the game, same as we did. I don’t blame them for feeling that way, but it does b0rk the experience for all of us.
> > 
> > Not only can it cause generalized server lag, but when they’re pinging ~200 and the rest of everyone is at 80 or below, the lag can look deceptively like they’re voldomorting, and it fosters the toxic environment that way because voldomorting is so rampant anyway (at least in the PC environment)
> > 
> > As a gamer in this situation - it’s just a complete no-win situation, whether it’s us complaining because of the laggy players from different regions, whether it’s people in other regions complaining because the servers in their area were shut down, or the toxic environment that’s fed because of the lag.
> 
> I guess a good middle ground would be servers WITH ping limit and servers WITHOUT ping limit so that every one would be happy..

I’d rather just have a games publisher that gave two steaming piles about their customer base and fans.

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**Author:** ![Magikf1ngers](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/bbce88/32.png) [@Magikf1ngers](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Magikf1ngers)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 5:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-know-no-new-content-but/107564/19 "2020-08-02T17:55:00Z")

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> [@Loqtrall](#):
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> > [@emerson1975](#):
> >
> > Fixes in a game that’s been on the market for nearly 2 years!  
> > Lost for words is an understatement.  
> > Never again dice.
> 
> There were fixes going on in BF4 for nearly 3 entire years and the game was still largely in a poor state well after the 1 year mark. And everybody now coddles that game like they owe it their life.
> 
> Bf5 hasn’t even been out 2 years yet. Literally every game in this franchise has received updates and fixes as long as BF5 has so far. At this time after release in regards to past games in this franchise (just over 1 1/2 years after launch of any given toitle), the next game in the franchise hadn’t even been released yet. It’s not uncommon for BF games to receive fixes this long after launch at all.
> 
> If that was really the “never again, DICE” moment, you wouldn’t have played two BF titles total.

TL:DR

Liking BF4 once the major issues were fixed doesn’t mean anyone’s forgotten the problems.

What it DOES mean is that BF4 marked the end of an era when EA / DICE cared about their customer base, and when the customer base demanded better instead of throwing money at them.

BF:V has been abandoned, plain and simple. You and others can buy into the “Quality of Life” fixes promised, but that’s not going to happen. It never does. Titanfall 2 is a huge example of that. A hit franchise riddled with issues, a few months of trying to fix those issues, then endless nerfs and “balance fixes” that never worked, and (at least in my experience) one of the first games to have microtransactions for cosmetics.

About six or eight months into it, the big controversy around SW: BFII and the pay to win microtransactions erupted. There was a huge, vocal protest about the gambling aspect of it, etc - but what EA learned is that even with the public outcry, people kept spending money on them. Not two months later, they announced the end of content at the 12-month mark but promised QOL updates.

They released one update in December / January (the year mark was October), and then radio silence. They promised Titanfall 3, teased it, strung along the fans - then abandoned it suddenly with the release of Apex Legends, trying to coddle the TF fanbase by saying that AL is in the “Titanfall Universe”.

Now - not nearly as deep into the life of BF:V, EA has forced DICE to abandon BF:V. We didn’t get nearly the content that was insinuated, and supposedly “Quality of Life” updates are still going to come.

It remains to be seen whether or not they continue with quality of life updates. I have zero confidence in that. The pattern with NFS: Payback, Titanfall, and now BF:V is too similar. Compared to what Battlefield support has been in the past, this is a complete abandonment of the game.

BF4 was a disaster when it released. Network issues were the biggest problem, but there were others. But to DICE’s credit, they kept plugging at it until the game because one of the best in the franchise.

Compare that to BF: V that - at least at launch - seemed to be promised that it was going to be bigger than 4, and better than all. They released some (admittedly awesome) game play trailers, and what single-player content we got was short but fun. Then you get deeper into the game and see that features from earlier versions have been abandoned. Ability to team switch, RSP, any sort of team balance at all, zero anti-Voldemort protection. However - the microtransactions truck right along, ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ modes like Firestorm were added (no offense to those that like it and still play it, but it was a BR mode, and Battlefield isn’t a BR game) - instead of fixes of genuine issues. Game balance is constantly in flux with the new EA brand of “nerf it then buff it without testing it” approach to gameplay balance.

So - you want to know why BF:4 is remembered so fondly - that’s why. It was the last real title where DICE showed some integrity, and EA allowed them to.

(I haven’t mentioned BF:1 for two simple reasons - out of respect for the vast majority of you that like it even though I don’t, and because I disliked it enough that I didn’t spend nearly the time in it that I did other Battlefield franchises, so I don’t feel I have room to speak on it.)

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**Author:** ![CrashCA](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crashca/32/100942_2.png) [@CrashCA](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CrashCA)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 8:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-know-no-new-content-but/107564/20 "2020-08-02T20:33:00Z")

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Magikf1ngers

Well reasoned always,  
Answer to my rethorical post was spot on

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