# i want bf1 to flop **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 7, 2016, 8:37am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-want-bf1-to-flop/102426 "2016-08-07T08:37:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![WriteToRopox](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/eb9ed0/32.png) [@WriteToRopox](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/WriteToRopox)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 8:37am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-want-bf1-to-flop/102426/1 "2016-08-07T08:37:00Z")
maybe then dice will stop being lazy and produce a game that is both authentic and skill based, as opposed to a ww2 game marketed as a ww1 game with rng and other nonsense ---
**Author:** ![I\_PingviN\_I](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/i_pingvin_i/32/102257_2.png) [@I\_PingviN\_I](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/I_PingviN_I)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 9:22am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-want-bf1-to-flop/102426/2 "2016-08-07T09:22:00Z")
When has Battlefield ever been “authentic”? Go play ARMA, you’re playing the wrong game. ---
**Author:** ![WriteToRopox](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/eb9ed0/32.png) [@WriteToRopox](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/WriteToRopox)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 10:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-want-bf1-to-flop/102426/3 "2016-08-07T10:19:00Z")
> [@I\_PingviN\_I](#): > > When has Battlefield ever been “authentic”? Go play ARMA, you’re playing the wrong game. pretty much always. you are confusing authenticity with realism ---
**Author:** ![Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lordmang4)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 10:23am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-want-bf1-to-flop/102426/4 "2016-08-07T10:23:00Z")
> [@WriteToRopox](#): > > maybe then dice will stop being lazy and produce a game that is both authentic and skill based, as opposed to a ww2 game marketed as a ww1 game with rng and other nonsense Et tu Brute? ---
**Author:** ![S1ngular1ty](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/s1ngular1ty/32/103340_2.png) [@S1ngular1ty](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/S1ngular1ty)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 10:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-want-bf1-to-flop/102426/5 "2016-08-07T10:28:00Z")
DICE is certainly taking a risk with this game. They seem set on trying to annoy most players. The game is set in WW1 which is a strange period for a FPS which annoys people who wanted a modern or futuristic game. Then they add lots of automatic weapons and features that shouldn’t exist in that time period which annoys people who actually wanted a WW1 game. Finally they annoy the WWII crowd because WWI isn’t really like WWII. I mean BF1 plays more like a WWII game but doesn’t have the variety a WWII game could have and this disappoints a lot of people. . So yeah, not sure what DICE was thinking with this one. ---
**Author:** ![Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lordmang4)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 10:32am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-want-bf1-to-flop/102426/6 "2016-08-07T10:32:00Z")
## [Link to section: I’m annoyed that BF1 is yet another BF game where parachutes magically repack themselves after being deployed and there are gadgets that magically resurrect those shot dead.](#im-annoyed-that-bf1-is-yet-another-bf-game-where-parachutes-magically-repack-themselves-after-being-deployed-and-there-are-gadgets-that-magically-resurrect-those-shot-dead-1)I’m annoyed that BF1 is yet another BF game where parachutes magically repack themselves after being deployed and there are gadgets that magically resurrect those shot dead. And yet I’ll still buy BF1 since it’s going to be a fun game to play. Imagine that. ---
**Author:** ![RosscoSan](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/rosscosan/32/103306_2.png) [@RosscoSan](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/RosscoSan)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 10:55am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-want-bf1-to-flop/102426/7 "2016-08-07T10:55:00Z")
I don’t think any multiplayer is authentic. 32 vs 32 in one area where they constantly respawn not much room for authenticity in that mix. I’m sure the campaign will be more authentic starting off with not a whole lot and finishing with lots. ---
**Author:** ![Lunkwow](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lunkwow/32/102693_2.png) [@Lunkwow](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lunkwow)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 11:00am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-want-bf1-to-flop/102426/8 "2016-08-07T11:00:00Z")
BF1 will succeed or fail based on how many copies it sales, if its sales around what BF4 sold tend it will probably be a success. I myself was hoping for a WWII game at first but BF1 surprised me in a good way and it is just what I wanted a older war with the BF4 formula of having all weapons and vehicles for all factions. ---
**Author:** ![DeadlyDanDaMan](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@DeadlyDanDaMan](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DeadlyDanDaMan)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 11:22am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-want-bf1-to-flop/102426/9 "2016-08-07T11:22:00Z")
> [@WriteToRopox](#): > > maybe then dice will stop being lazy and produce a game that is both authentic and skill based, as opposed to a ww2 game marketed as a ww1 game with rng and other nonsense What BF game/s do you consider to be “authentic and skill based” then? ---
**Author:** ![WriteToRopox](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/eb9ed0/32.png) [@WriteToRopox](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/WriteToRopox)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 11:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-want-bf1-to-flop/102426/10 "2016-08-07T11:28:00Z")
> [@DeadlyDanDaMan](#): > > > [@WriteToRopox](#): > > > > maybe then dice will stop being lazy and produce a game that is both authentic and skill based, as opposed to a ww2 game marketed as a ww1 game with rng and other nonsense > > What BF game/s do you consider to be “authentic and skill based” then? pretty much any previous ones. authentic doesn’t mean realistic. but atleast other games had weapons that mostly matched the setting, even if some were prototype. where as this game completely fails to capture ww1, its merely used as marketing. so now we have a game that is not really ww1, but it can’t be as varied as a ww2 game either, because it still has to stick to the ww1 marketing and before someone says that bf4 also uses a lot of future technology and prototype weapons, im well aware of that. but bf4 is not geared towards a specific conflict, so it doesn’t have to stay true to anything, really and as for skillbased, this is the second game with rng spread and first without ticketbleed, melee attacks are extremely silly too. the dumbing down is real, even though it happened big time with bf4 too ---
**Author:** ![DeadlyDanDaMan](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@DeadlyDanDaMan](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DeadlyDanDaMan)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 11:34am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-want-bf1-to-flop/102426/11 "2016-08-07T11:34:00Z")
> [@WriteToRopox](#): > > > [@DeadlyDanDaMan](#): > > > > > [@WriteToRopox](#): > > > > > > maybe then dice will stop being lazy and produce a game that is both authentic and skill based, as opposed to a ww2 game marketed as a ww1 game with rng and other nonsense > > > > What BF game/s do you consider to be “authentic and skill based” then? > > pretty much any previous ones. authentic doesn’t mean realistic. but atleast other games had weapons that mostly matched the setting, even if some were prototype. where as this game completely fails to capture ww1, its merely used as marketing. so now we have a game that is not really ww1, but it can’t be as varied as a ww2 game either, because it still has to stick to the ww1 marketing > > and before someone says that bf4 also uses a lot of future technology and prototype weapons, im well aware of that. but bf4 is not geared towards a specific conflict, so it doesn’t have to stay true to anything, really > > and as for skillbased, this is the second game with rng spread and first without ticketbleed, melee attacks are extremely silly too. the dumbing down is real, even though it happened big time with bf4 too All the weapons in BF1 ARE authentic!! They were developed in that time period. Go do some research. ---
**Author:** ![RosscoSan](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/rosscosan/32/103306_2.png) [@RosscoSan](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/RosscoSan)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 11:38am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-want-bf1-to-flop/102426/12 "2016-08-07T11:38:00Z")
> [@WriteToRopox](#): > > but atleast other games had weapons that mostly matched the setting, even if some were prototype. where as this game completely fails to capture ww1 Pick a gun in the game and post proof that it wasn’t used in ww1, then we will listen to you. otherwise quit playing games because you have completely missed the point of them. ---
**Author:** ![doctorrocktor](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/doctorrocktor/32/101751_2.png) [@doctorrocktor](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/doctorrocktor)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 11:44am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-want-bf1-to-flop/102426/13 "2016-08-07T11:44:00Z")
oh flop off. ---
**Author:** ![Crispy\_Pinguin](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crispy_pinguin/32/101414_2.png) [@Crispy\_Pinguin](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Crispy_Pinguin)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 11:50am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-want-bf1-to-flop/102426/14 "2016-08-07T11:50:00Z")
This discussion will go no where! In max 10 comments it will derail into ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ to each other! ---
**Author:** ![DeadlyIntention](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/deadlyintention/32/101666_2.png) [@DeadlyIntention](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DeadlyIntention)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 11:52am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-want-bf1-to-flop/102426/15 "2016-08-07T11:52:00Z")
> [@I\_PingviN\_I](#): > > When has Battlefield ever been “authentic”? Go play ARMA, you’re playing the wrong game. I’ve played Arma, big difference trying to compare to bf1, reason is that Arma was designed strictly for pc the consoles couldn’t handle or run it, so some compromises has to be done for console. ---
**Author:** ![WriteToRopox](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/eb9ed0/32.png) [@WriteToRopox](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/WriteToRopox)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 11:57am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-want-bf1-to-flop/102426/16 "2016-08-07T11:57:00Z")
> [@RosscoSan](#): > > > [@WriteToRopox](#): > > > > but atleast other games had weapons that mostly matched the setting, even if some were prototype. where as this game completely fails to capture ww1 > > Pick a gun in the game and post proof that it wasn’t used in ww1, then we will listen to you. otherwise quit playing games because you have completely missed the point of them. 90% of weapons are prototype automatic weapons. not saying those shouldn’t exist, but why is every soldier running around with an automatic. what about artillery or trech warfare? once again, they could play atleast some sort of a role in the game ---
**Author:** ![DeadlyIntention](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/deadlyintention/32/101666_2.png) [@DeadlyIntention](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DeadlyIntention)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 11:58am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-want-bf1-to-flop/102426/17 "2016-08-07T11:58:00Z")
> [@Lordmang4](#): > > ## I’m annoyed that BF1 is yet another BF game where parachutes magically repack themselves after being deployed and there are gadgets that magically resurrect those shot dead. > > And yet I’ll still buy BF1 since it’s going to be a fun game to play. Imagine that. If they made people to pack their own parachutes in the game they wouldn’t be playing much due to spending at 10 to 15 minutes packing the chute. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Spider](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/ee59a6/32.png) [@Red\_Spider](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Red_Spider)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 12:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-want-bf1-to-flop/102426/18 "2016-08-07T12:26:00Z")
> [@WriteToRopox](#): > > maybe then dice will stop being lazy and produce a game that is both authentic Have you played the game or read any of the press around Battlefield 1? It’s been marked as the most authentic Battlefield game DICE have made… ` Here is a special edition video from The Great War focusing on the authenticity on Battlefield 1 [![Video: Battlefield 1 - Historical Gameplay Trailer Analysis I THE GREAT WAR Special](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/f/8/f87c7ed5815f6b398b26f5b3143eb6c13100aad6.jpeg "Battlefield 1 - Historical Gameplay Trailer Analysis I THE GREAT WAR Special") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYDA5usUzmg) `And some more articles on it's authenticity https://www.engadget.com/2016/05/14/battlefield-1-historical-breakdown/ http://www.gamezone.com/originals/alpha-preview-battlefield-1-offers-authentic-chaotic-and-epic-battles-k15i` Here’s also a great video from @ThePoolshark on Authentivity Vs Realism [![Video: Battlefield 1: Realism vs Authenticity - My take](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/4/9/497fcce815d389e133b0836809912d3caa326897.jpeg "Battlefield 1: Realism vs Authenticity - My take") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw1szt60_t8) ` #MicDrop ---
**Author:** ![BadcuzTremysaid](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BadcuzTremysaid](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BadcuzTremysaid)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 1:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-want-bf1-to-flop/102426/19 "2016-08-07T13:18:00Z")
> [@Red\_Spider](#): > > > [@WriteToRopox](#): > > > > maybe then dice will stop being lazy and produce a game that is both authentic > > Have you played the game or read any of the press around Battlefield 1? It’s been marked as the most authentic Battlefield game DICE have made… > ` > Here is a special edition video from The Great War focusing on the authenticity on Battlefield 1 > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYDA5usUzmg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYDA5usUzmg) > > `And some more articles on it's authenticity https://www.engadget.com/2016/05/14/battlefield-1-historical-breakdown/ http://www.gamezone.com/originals/alpha-preview-battlefield-1-offers-authentic-chaotic-and-epic-battles-k15i` > Here’s also a great video from @ThePoolshark on Authentivity Vs Realism > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw1szt60\_t8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw1szt60_t8) > > ` > #MicDrop _Snaps fingers_Oh no you didnt. ---
**Author:** ![mmarkweII](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mmarkweii/32/102833_2.png) [@mmarkweII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mmarkweII)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 1:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-want-bf1-to-flop/102426/20 "2016-08-07T13:24:00Z")
> [@Brentlostak](#): > > This discussion will go no where! In max 10 comments it will derail into to each other! This is post number 6 🙂 [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/i-want-bf1-to-flop/102426.md?page=2)