# Impossible to play without seeing a cheat

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902>\
**Category:** PC\
**Created:** [March 30, 2017, 11:29pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902 "2017-03-30T23:29:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Stormfirebird](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/stormfirebird/32/103627_2.png) [@Stormfirebird](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Stormfirebird)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 2:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/341 "2017-07-14T14:40:00Z")

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> [@Farsight\_02](#):
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> No. Those arguments of yours have already been countered, not just by me but by others in this thread as well as that ‘witch-hunt’ thread. You keep repeating the same story which is based on your own lack of understanding about cheating, as you’ve demonstrated in this thread many pages ago. The video where the ‘pro’s’ aim keeps jumplocking onto a revived but still invincible lucio is only disputed by people who don’t know how to tell (highly) skilled human aim from cheat infused aiming ‘skill’. That video was the most obvious proof of aimbot use, but I’ve seen plenty of people still make up all sort of excuses and come up with all kinds of misplaced or farfetched theories to protect these guys. The truth is that they just can’t believe that cheating happens in every sport even on the top-levels and will try to find any kind of rational explanation even though there is none to keep their believe intact. The funny thing is that some of these guys have already been caught before, and yet still people say things like ‘He did it then, but that’s in the past’ or ‘That’s just how pro’s aim’…  
> As I’ve said plenty of times before, I’ve done a lot of research and I’ve got many years of experience in fps games. My conclusions are based on that, while yours are based on claims backed up only by rational thought, but no substantial research on the subject and significant experience as a foundation.

You cant even argue on a proper level, you are always trying to discredit the other person.  
While it doesnt even look like he actually locks to the model, the videos from that thread are also from the ingame spec as far as im aware. Its just as inacurate as the one in BF1 or at least used to be back then.  
Taking fishy videos as solid evidence doesnt just happen with OW, saw it happen on CS:GO a million times, including the corruption claim.  
Its a logical fallacy until you aquire some actual evidence.

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**Author:** ![XeqS](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/ed8c4c/32.png) [@XeqS](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/XeqS)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 3:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/342 "2017-07-14T15:57:00Z")

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I play every day.  
I rarely see a cheater (maybe 1 in 20 games)

I often get accused of cheating and that is why I no longer think there is a serious issue with cheaters. Though almost every game I do see a crybaby accusing me or someone else of cheating.

Get better or just get used to being bad.

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**Author:** ![kapitalistas69](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/74df32/32.png) [@kapitalistas69](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/kapitalistas69)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 4:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/343 "2017-07-14T16:04:00Z")

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> [@Kauzer\_228](#):
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> At the moment to report a player you need to wait untill round end and then open his profile. Sometimes its impossible beacuse hacker left asap after round ended or because in game origin bugged and does not work . Its too long. Report button should be somewhere in scrore screen or show pop up after RMB click on player’s nick for example.

no offence but some dont like to read on forums

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**Author:** ![StarscreamUK](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@StarscreamUK](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/StarscreamUK)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/344 "2017-07-14T16:36:00Z")

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> [@Carreta-Fofao](#):
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> Have several cheaters recorded and reported to Dice: _name & shame_

![7wD6drb.png](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/5/b/5b53c560e05bfae5b3d4f412abd2578965028a02.png) Naming and shaming those who you believe to be cheating is not permitted anywhere on the [battlefield.com](http://battlefield.com) site. It is not productive and does not expedite action taken against these players. Any references of this type will be removed, repeated infractions may result in actions against your account. Instead, Report players directly for investigation. This rule also applies to the naming of clans, platoons, servers and the admins of servers you feel are in breach of the RoC. You cannot post anything that allows identification of the player that can lead to harassment.

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**Author:** ![kbj1972](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ee59a6/32.png) [@kbj1972](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/kbj1972)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 4:37pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/345 "2017-07-14T16:37:00Z")

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> [@XeqS](#):
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> I play every day.  
> I rarely see a cheater (maybe 1 in 20 games)
> 
> I often get accused of cheating and that is why I no longer think there is a serious issue with cheaters. Though almost every game I do see a crybaby accusing me or someone else of cheating.
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> Get better or just get used to being bad.

Maybe you should read more than just the title of this thread.

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**Author:** ![IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/illilliii/32/102293_2.png) [@IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IllIllIII)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 4:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/346 "2017-07-14T16:49:00Z")

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It indeed is increasing.. saw today 2 blatant cheaters in one match.  
One of them i have reported last sunday.

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**Author:** ![Sketcheeze](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@Sketcheeze](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sketcheeze)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/347 "2017-07-14T17:59:00Z")

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hacking is our of control. reporting has become a chore. fairfight is a joke. first line of defense shld be antihack measures, not player reports.

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**Author:** ![Micas99](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/micas99/32/102800_2.png) [@Micas99](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Micas99)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 6:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/348 "2017-07-14T18:19:00Z")

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> [@lucidstorm](#):
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> But a ban on the only 1 map left populated is death sentence in gaming therms. Truth is, never get too good, stay mediocre and don’t dominate the admin.

Hope my forthcoming whine does’t violate any rules (feel free to delete this and give me a time-out if so).. but..

I totally appreciate that comment. Since I stopped playing BF1 in March, I started playing a lot of BF4 again (yay metabans). I’m an above-average player that likes vanilla maps, and there’s only 2 64 man servers that offer that now. G4L banned me a few days ago for “farming”. Seriously.. I PTFO, kill players, and they banned me for it. The death knell was starting a gulmud match, I took a tank and immediately went after their MAA and killed it. The MAA contained a G4L admin who got bent. Stupid me waited for him to respawn (instant vehicle spawning) and move out of spawn, and killed him in the MAA again. Bam - banned. Apparently he thought that because he was an admin on the server, he should be allowed to sit in the MAA spamming actives without being attacked by the opposing team. From my point of view, I think the pilots on my team appreciated that I was keeping the MAA off them. You know.. playing a team game with an effort towards winning the match, which requires.. killing players on the other team. I wasn’t hackusated, I was banned for playing the game the way it was designed to be played. That’s the definition of “badmin”.

In reality, they just don’t want players better than them on the server and quite a few guys I know with above average skill have been banned as well. Their server, their prerogative, but slapping “noobs only” in the server title seems warranted. But hey.. they seemed to enjoy my antics when I was on their team.

Think I might rent a BF4 64 man vanilla rush server, but I’m wary that the BF4 pop might not keep it active.

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**Author:** ![Skeater44](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Skeater44](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Skeater44)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/349 "2017-07-14T19:02:00Z")

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For that reason I don’t play in clan servers, But it is their money that is used to rent it so they can do as they please, in the long run it will only hurt them as more people talk about how bad they are. I also am not ok with the idea of vote kick for the reason that most players have no idea what was going on they just press yes to get the message off their screen, and to me this does not take care of a cheater problem for most don’t really know if the player was really a cheater, they just keep getting the kick vote spam on their screen.

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**Author:** ![kapitalistas69](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/74df32/32.png) [@kapitalistas69](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/kapitalistas69)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 7:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/350 "2017-07-14T19:15:00Z")

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> [@Micas99](#):
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> > [@lucidstorm](#):
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> > But a ban on the only 1 map left populated is death sentence in gaming therms. Truth is, never get too good, stay mediocre and don’t dominate the admin.
> 
> Hope my forthcoming whine does’t violate any rules (feel free to delete this and give me a time-out if so).. but..
> 
> I totally appreciate that comment. Since I stopped playing BF1 in March, I started playing a lot of BF4 again (yay metabans). I’m an above-average player that likes vanilla maps, and there’s only 2 64 man servers that offer that now. G4L banned me a few days ago for “farming”. Seriously.. I PTFO, kill players, and they banned me for it. The death knell was starting a gulmud match, I took a tank and immediately went after their MAA and killed it. The MAA contained a G4L admin who got bent. Stupid me waited for him to respawn (instant vehicle spawning) and move out of spawn, and killed him in the MAA again. Bam - banned. Apparently he thought that because he was an admin on the server, he should be allowed to sit in the MAA spamming actives without being attacked by the opposing team. From my point of view, I think the pilots on my team appreciated that I was keeping the MAA off them. You know.. playing a team game with an effort towards winning the match, which requires.. killing players on the other team. I wasn’t hackusated, I was banned for playing the game the way it was designed to be played. That’s the definition of “badmin”.
> 
> In reality, they just don’t want players better than them on the server and quite a few guys I know with above average skill have been banned as well. Their server, their prerogative, but slapping “noobs only” in the server title seems warranted. But hey.. they seemed to enjoy my antics when I was on their team.
> 
> Think I might rent a BF4 64 man vanilla rush server, but I’m wary that the BF4 pop might not keep it active.

good story but what it has to do with this post no offence, but(ITS ALLWAYS BUT) how many playears banned on Battlefield 1 doing PTFO

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**Author:** ![XupetaNaZaniteta](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/xupetanazaniteta/32/101473_2.png) [@XupetaNaZaniteta](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/XupetaNaZaniteta)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 7:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/351 "2017-07-14T19:35:00Z")

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> [@StarscreamUK](#):
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> > [@Carreta-Fofao](#):
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> > Have several cheaters recorded and reported to Dice: _name & shame_
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> ![7wD6drb.png](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/5/b/5b53c560e05bfae5b3d4f412abd2578965028a02.png) Naming and shaming those who you believe to be cheating is not permitted anywhere on the [battlefield.com](http://battlefield.com) site. It is not productive and does not expedite action taken against these players. Any references of this type will be removed, repeated infractions may result in actions against your account. Instead, Report players directly for investigation. This rule also applies to the naming of clans, platoons, servers and the admins of servers you feel are in breach of the RoC. You cannot post anything that allows identification of the player that can lead to harassment.
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So ..do something…because I am tired of dying for those obvious cheaters. Any 9 year old kid that watch this videos will see a cheater in action. These are the obvious ones..that players who even dont know how to cheat. I reported them many times and they are still playing…saying that their hacks are lifetime (omg), updated and never will be catched. I spent a lot o time, recording, editing and uploading the videos,trying to help the community..Now I am sure I am wasting my time. However, they will be exposed in many youtube channels and the more cheaters I record and expose, the worst the game reputation will be. Respect those who are trying to help you.

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**Author:** ![Mikex2112](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/ad7895/32.png) [@Mikex2112](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Mikex2112)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 7:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/352 "2017-07-14T19:38:00Z")

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> [@Carreta-Fofao](#):
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> > [@StarscreamUK](#):
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> > > [@Carreta-Fofao](#):
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> > > Have several cheaters recorded and reported to Dice: _name & shame_
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> > ![7wD6drb.png](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/5/b/5b53c560e05bfae5b3d4f412abd2578965028a02.png) Naming and shaming those who you believe to be cheating is not permitted anywhere on the [battlefield.com](http://battlefield.com) site. It is not productive and does not expedite action taken against these players. Any references of this type will be removed, repeated infractions may result in actions against your account. Instead, Report players directly for investigation. This rule also applies to the naming of clans, platoons, servers and the admins of servers you feel are in breach of the RoC. You cannot post anything that allows identification of the player that can lead to harassment.
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> So ..do something…because I am tired of dying for those obvious cheaters. Any 9 year old kid that watch this videos will see a cheater in action. These are the obvious ones..that players who even dont know how to cheat. I reported them many times and they are still playing…saying that their hacks are lifetime (omg), updated and never will be catched. I spent a lot o time, recording, editing and uploading the videos,trying to help the community..Now I am sure I am wasting my time. However, they will be exposed in many youtube channels and the more cheaters I record and expose, the worst the game reputation will be. Respect those who are trying to help you.

StarScream is a non-paid,volunteer moderator…He has no control over cheaters or banning them.

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**Author:** ![lucidstorm](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lucidstorm/32/102687_2.png) [@lucidstorm](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/lucidstorm)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/353 "2017-07-14T20:25:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> @XeqS I rarely see a cheater (maybe 1 in 20 games)

that is NOT rarely

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**Author:** ![MHbluey](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mhbluey/32/102799_2.png) [@MHbluey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MHbluey)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/354 "2017-07-14T20:34:00Z")

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there is acheater on

> [@Mikex2112](#):
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> > [@Carreta-Fofao](#):
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> > > [@StarscreamUK](#):
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> > > > [@Carreta-Fofao](#):
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> > > > Have several cheaters recorded and reported to Dice: _name & shame_
> > > 
> > > ![7wD6drb.png](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/5/b/5b53c560e05bfae5b3d4f412abd2578965028a02.png) Naming and shaming those who you believe to be cheating is not permitted anywhere on the [battlefield.com](http://battlefield.com) site. It is not productive and does not expedite action taken against these players. Any references of this type will be removed, repeated infractions may result in actions against your account. Instead, Report players directly for investigation. This rule also applies to the naming of clans, platoons, servers and the admins of servers you feel are in breach of the RoC. You cannot post anything that allows identification of the player that can lead to harassment.
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> > So ..do something…because I am tired of dying for those obvious cheaters. Any 9 year old kid that watch this videos will see a cheater in action. These are the obvious ones..that players who even dont know how to cheat. I reported them many times and they are still playing…saying that their hacks are lifetime (omg), updated and never will be catched. I spent a lot o time, recording, editing and uploading the videos,trying to help the community..Now I am sure I am wasting my time. However, they will be exposed in many youtube channels and the more cheaters I record and expose, the worst the game reputation will be. Respect those who are trying to help you.
> 
> StarScream is a non-paid,volunteer moderator…He has no control over cheaters or banning them.

meanwhile this PC version of the game has been thrown under the proverbial bus due to poor anti cheat

luckily there are other pc games to play, even early access games are massively more popular on pc than Battlefield, hell even Euro Truck is more popular - makes me sad man

> **[Battlefield 1 isn't out yet, but it already has hackers](https://www.pcgamer.com/bf1-hacks/)**
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> Watch us get owned by a super blatant, aimbotting jerkbag.

and it hasn’t improved

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**Author:** ![PDGC\_sandmanNL](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pdgc_sandmannl/32/103091_2.png) [@PDGC\_sandmanNL](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PDGC_sandmanNL)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 8:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/355 "2017-07-14T20:45:00Z")

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> [@Crus94](#):
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> \*removed!

That guy is not cheating, this is the reason there is a no name and shame rule.

Stats and no name of a cheater:

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**Author:** ![11KingJake11](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/11kingjake11/32/101094_2.png) [@11KingJake11](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/11KingJake11)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 9:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/356 "2017-07-14T21:17:00Z")

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I’m talking about the level 140 hackers. Every server people are using esp that’s when u see everyone at all times. NOT HARD TO SEE. They come at u then the next and then the next guy and so on. Do the math impossible to know the right directions always. Really wish we can all use it. Just watch every server and more than likely the guy in first will have a score double the rest HINT HINT. Not just that pay me to stop hacking. This comes from a Computer Scientist that knows how code works.

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**Author:** ![Crus94](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@Crus94](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Crus94)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 10:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/357 "2017-07-14T22:28:00Z")

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> [@PDGC\_NLsandman](#):
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> > [@Crus94](#):
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> > \*removed!
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> That guy is not cheating, this is the reason there is a no name and shame rule.
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> Stats and no name of a cheater:

sorry but not, those are not the statistics, he is cheater use wallhack and aimbot, you’re blind? Youtuber taisontv upload the video and ban this rat

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**Author:** ![LIQUID-C00LED](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/d07c76/32.png) [@LIQUID-C00LED](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LIQUID-C00LED)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 11:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/358 "2017-07-14T23:18:00Z")

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I have been gaming online from way back in the Unreal Tournament 99 days and before. i agree there is a real problem that needs to be fixed in regards to a working anticheat for BF1, it is sad 2 see such a good game fall short because of poor development of a working anticheat.

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**Author:** ![Kunstula](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Kunstula](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kunstula)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 1:41am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/359 "2017-07-15T01:41:00Z")

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> [@Stormfirebird](#):
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> You cant even argue on a proper level, you are always trying to discredit the other person.  
> While it doesnt even look like he actually locks to the model, the videos from that thread are also from the ingame spec as far as im aware. Its just as inacurate as the one in BF1 or at least used to be back then.  
> Taking fishy videos as solid evidence doesnt just happen with OW, saw it happen on CS:GO a million times, including the corruption claim.  
> Its a logical fallacy until you aquire some actual evidence.

No I don’t, that’s how you see it because you don’t understand all the arguments that I have made. Now you’re interpreting my arguments as an attack against you as a person and not your ill informed claims. So you are now in fact doing the very thing that you are accusing me of, it’s ironic.

There is nothing fishy about those video’s, the only thing that’s fishy is that guy’s aim. That aimbot smoothlocking back twice onto an invincible lucio (because his aimbot doesn’t know that lucio was still invincible) while he tries to shift aim towards another target is a dead giveaway, that’s **not** how highly skilled players aim no matter how good they are, you’d know this if you had actual knowledge of how legit pro’s aiming looks like. It **does** look like he actually locks onto the model, FYI newer aimbots are configured to not always lock perfectly on target so as to lead inexperienced and gullible people into thinking ‘You see?! He also misses, so it’s not an aimbot!’, again you’d know this if you had done research on the subject of cheating and how it has evolved as I did.

Do yourself a favor and update your knowledge of cheating, it would benefit you greatly.

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**Author:** ![Jinko\_itx](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/f14d63/32.png) [@Jinko\_itx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jinko_itx)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 7:57am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/360 "2017-07-15T07:57:00Z")

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lol if only we have these moderators on every server in BF1, cheating would go down substantially.

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