# Impossible to play without seeing a cheat

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902>\
**Category:** PC\
**Created:** [March 30, 2017, 11:29pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902 "2017-03-30T23:29:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 34

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**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 1:05am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/661 "2018-01-18T01:05:00Z")

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> [@samjogo](#):
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> you LOLGotYerTags

Yeah not wise.

For that, I am issuing a 72 hour suspension.

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**Author:** ![Photonic-Prophet](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/photonic-prophet/32/104932_2.png) [@Photonic-Prophet](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Photonic-Prophet)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 1:37am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/662 "2018-01-18T01:37:00Z")

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lol well that escalated quickly

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**Author:** ![Photonic-Prophet](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/photonic-prophet/32/104932_2.png) [@Photonic-Prophet](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Photonic-Prophet)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 2:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/663 "2018-01-18T02:26:00Z")

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hell, just played and reported an obvious cheat that was on my team…12.488 w/l ratio anyone? sure must be one lucky son of a…

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**Author:** ![OP\_Glitchmobile](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/op_glitchmobile/32/103031_2.png) [@OP\_Glitchmobile](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/OP_Glitchmobile)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 4:37am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/664 "2018-01-18T04:37:00Z")

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All cheaters sing along now!!!

https://www.youtube.com/embed/3vAC_3jGpKo?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque

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**Author:** ![FPSgamer69](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@FPSgamer69](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FPSgamer69)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/665 "2018-01-19T18:13:00Z")

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no one does but you 2

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**Author:** ![IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/illilliii/32/102293_2.png) [@IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IllIllIII)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 7:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/666 "2018-01-19T19:45:00Z")

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Because youre salty..

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**Author:** ![Wurtenslurps](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Wurtenslurps](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Wurtenslurps)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/667 "2018-01-19T20:27:00Z")

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If you know cheating is out of control, why are you continuing to play this game?  
It has looked like this since BF3, not a ban with pay cheats, as long you play how FF decides what is “git gud”  
And if you think it will be better, forget it, so long pay cheats does not count as cheating for FF ,then it’s just only pay to win.

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**Author:** ![D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/d5rat/32/100944_2.png) [@D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/D5RAT)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 11:37pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/668 "2018-01-19T23:37:00Z")

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Ive been reading a lot of coding sites tonight and I have learned that Dice has encrypted the entity in the game for “player velocity” amongst other things . This makes it difficult to create an aimbot that can accurately lock on to moving targets .The cheat makers are getting around this by estimating the settings but their aimbots are now not as accurate . hopefully Dice will encrypt other entities in the next patch to give them the run around a bit more

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**Author:** ![TNA\_SneakyMonkey](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/54ee81/32.png) [@TNA\_SneakyMonkey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TNA_SneakyMonkey)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 3:55am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/669 "2018-01-20T03:55:00Z")

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It’s actually been _much_ better the past week.

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**Author:** ![D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/d5rat/32/100944_2.png) [@D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/D5RAT)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 12:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/670 "2018-01-20T12:53:00Z")

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Obviously the only downside to encrypting entities is that CPUs have to work harder and that means these forums been full of people crying because they’ve lost 20 frames per second on their first generation i5

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**Author:** ![Revokah](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/revokah/32/103267_2.png) [@Revokah](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Revokah)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 1:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/671 "2018-01-20T13:10:00Z")

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Haha, to be fair I’ve noticed a difference when I’m streaming, recording and playing 😕 I think the best way to solve that is to stop recording, stream in 1080p and get the clips from twitch.

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**Author:** ![Wurtenslurps](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Wurtenslurps](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Wurtenslurps)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 4:47pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/672 "2018-01-20T16:47:00Z")

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> [@D5RAT](#):
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> Obviously the only downside to encrypting entities is that CPUs have to work harder and that means these forums been full of people crying because they’ve lost 20 frames per second on their first generation i5

You know that the only thing that encrypting entities does is to remove the obvious ones who must use aimbot to even hit something, there are so bad ones, running around with negative K / D and still must cheat.  
But a good player who does not need aimbot, who only needs a wallhack, there’s the real and big problem, because when a novice cheater has overcome all the mistakes he makes, he also becomes invisible to a weak AC solution like FF.

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**Author:** ![11KingJake11](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/11kingjake11/32/101094_2.png) [@11KingJake11](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/11KingJake11)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 6:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/673 "2018-01-20T18:10:00Z")

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Funny still no support from Dice lol hows your sells, Im not buying, I already have the Hacked out version of Battlefield!!!

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**Author:** ![OP\_Glitchmobile](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/op_glitchmobile/32/103031_2.png) [@OP\_Glitchmobile](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/OP_Glitchmobile)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 6:52pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/674 "2018-01-20T18:52:00Z")

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> [@FPSgamer69](#):
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> no one does but you 2

Your did not get it, huh?  
Jesus, some people here are salty…even comes to my profile (not you) to tell me i’m supporting hackers.  
Did you get born into the dead sea, and spend your childhood there?  
I wonder..

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**Author:** ![Oskool\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/oskool_007/32/103047_2.png) [@Oskool\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Oskool_007)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 2:10am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/675 "2018-01-21T02:10:00Z")

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I’ve started noticing an uptick in the use of ESP cheaters. It’s not surprising, seeing how Turning Tides released December 11th. It’s been over a month since the game has been patched.

That’s plenty of time for cheat developers to reverse engineer DICE’s new encryption scheme and update their cheat software.

The biggest weakness with DICE’s new in-house anti-cheat solution is it rarely gets updated. Only when a new patch drops it gets updated. What happens when the last DLC releases and the game stops being patched? My guess is cheats will run rampant again.

It would be nice if DICE added BattlEye to their anti-cheat stack. They need anti-cheat software which is updated more frequently.

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**Author:** ![D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/d5rat/32/100944_2.png) [@D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/D5RAT)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 9:49am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/676 "2018-01-21T09:49:00Z")

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> [@Oskool\_007](#):
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> I’ve started noticing an uptick in the use of ESP cheaters. It’s not surprising, seeing how Turning Tides released December 11th. It’s been over a month since the game has been patched.
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> That’s plenty of time for cheat developers to reverse engineer DICE’s new encryption scheme and update their cheat software.
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> The biggest weakness with DICE’s new in-house anti-cheat solution is it rarely gets updated. Only when a new patch drops it gets updated. What happens when the last DLC releases and the game stops being patched? My guess is cheats will run rampant again.
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> It would be nice if DICE added BattlEye to their anti-cheat stack. They need anti-cheat software which is updated more frequently.

im sure fairfight is independent of patches from dice

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**Author:** ![Revokah](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/revokah/32/103267_2.png) [@Revokah](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Revokah)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 10:08am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/677 "2018-01-21T10:08:00Z")

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Bring back punkbuster and pbbans

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**Author:** ![Oskool\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/oskool_007/32/103047_2.png) [@Oskool\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Oskool_007)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 10:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/678 "2018-01-21T10:26:00Z")

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I’ve had over a year experience with FairFight. It’s a very weak statistical based anti-cheat. It only catches very obvious aimbotters, and misses all other types of cheats.

Remember when free public cheats were rampant in BF1? FairFight didn’t put an end to that, DICE’s in-house anti-cheat did.

FairFight is by far the weakest link in the anti-cheat stack. The problem with statistics based anti-cheat, is it throws up a lot of false positives. Remember when bomber gunners were getting banned for going 100-0 in a round? It’s pretty much impossible to tell the difference between cheaters and legit players using FairFight.

Battlefront 2 only has FairFight protecting it and the game is full of free public cheats just like BF1 was. If DICE stops updating their in-house anti-cheat and all we’re left with is FairFight again, prepare yourself for a cheating onslaught.

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**Author:** ![Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rev0verDrive)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 11:41am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/679 "2018-01-21T11:41:00Z")

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> [@Oskool\_007](#):
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> Remember when free public cheats were rampant in BF1? FairFight didn’t put an end to that, DICE’s in-house anti-cheat did.

EA’s in-house anti-cheat hasn’t been released and will not release until Incursions is finalized.

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**Author:** ![D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/d5rat/32/100944_2.png) [@D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/D5RAT)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 12:12pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/680 "2018-01-21T12:12:00Z")

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> [@Rev0verDrive](#):
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> > [@Oskool\_007](#):
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> > Remember when free public cheats were rampant in BF1? FairFight didn’t put an end to that, DICE’s in-house anti-cheat did.
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> EA’s in-house anti-cheat hasn’t been released and will not release until Incursions is finalized.

Dice have added “anti cheat” elements to BF1 Maybe not a stand alone AC but elements to prevent the use of aimbots ect

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