# Impossible to play without seeing a cheat **URL:** \ **Category:** PC\ **Created:** [March 30, 2017, 11:29pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902 "2017-03-30T23:29:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 41
**Author:** ![IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/illilliii/32/102293_2.png) [@IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IllIllIII)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/801 "2018-01-28T19:12:00Z")
> [@TyroneLoyd](#): > > > [@R-Sw1pe](#): > > > > Just come back after almost a year away cos of cheaters. Still see em on servers. But whats i’ve found even worse, what’s actuall spoiled more games than cheating, is team-stacking. > > The number of times all the 130 exp players have joined the same team to completely dominate the other less experienced team is appaling. > > In fact, just been in a game where a 130 player actually swapped to join the more experienced team, cos we were losing. This, despite the fact that they actually had more players to start with! > > And this isn’t an isolated incident, as i’ve actually quit a number of games now because of this issue. > > > > This behavoiur often leaves one team with 32 players (the 130 exp players) and the other team with 20 players or less! > > > > Does BF1 even have any kind of balancing? Cos if it does, i cant see any eveidence whatsoever. > > > > Quake2 had autobalancing that worked, and jesus, how many years ago was that? > > > > What i find incredible is that these people are asking you to pay more money for DLC content, for a game which quite simply has so many issues that a lot of people are leaving,/ have already left. > > > > Trouble is, i cant see anything changing, Dice just dont care. Its such a shame cos without the cheating and the team-stacking, its an excellent game. Oh well, back to rome total war. > > Seen alot of team stacking and switching on already large teams also. Saw a streamer doing it every game as soon as he felt like he was losing(quite sad since he had alot of viewers). This new balance system that’s coming isn’t my ideal method of team balancing since it does it mid game but I guess it’s something. Russians do litterally anything to win… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![RRedux](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RRedux](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/RRedux)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/802 "2018-01-28T19:19:00Z")
> [@TyroneLoyd](#): > > Seen alot of team stacking and switching on already large teams also. Saw a streamer doing it every game as soon as he felt like he was losing(quite sad since he had alot of viewers). This new balance system that’s coming isn’t my ideal method of team balancing since it does it mid game but I guess it’s something. Teams being rebalanced in the middle of a game is a terrible idea. The initial matchmaking is the problem. Everyone has noticed that a lot of the time at the start of a new match, the team that won the last round gets new players added to it by the matchmaking even though the team that lost the previous round has 15 less players on their team. That’s the matchmaking at work, it “decides” which team is supposed to win before the match even begins, and stacks that team. A random scramble between rounds might not be ideal, but it really can’t be worse than the current MM system. ---
**Author:** ![Revokah](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/revokah/32/103267_2.png) [@Revokah](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Revokah)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/803 "2018-01-28T19:38:00Z")
Agreed ^^^ match making should be random. Said this about multiple titles. Trying to predetermine ‘balanced’ teams is possibly the most stupid things I’ve ever heard ---
**Author:** ![FPSgamer69](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@FPSgamer69](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FPSgamer69)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/804 "2018-01-28T21:21:00Z")
> [@Revokah](#): > > Agreed ^^^ match making should be random. Said this about multiple titles. Trying to predetermine ‘balanced’ teams is possibly the most stupid things I’ve ever heard randomizing might be a balancing trick ---
**Author:** ![Micas99](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/micas99/32/102800_2.png) [@Micas99](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Micas99)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 10:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/805 "2018-01-28T22:03:00Z")
Someone suggested more frequent encryption updates, and I don’t see why it can’t be daily, or maybe something more dynamic where each client has a different key which changes each time you load the game. In any case, it does seem like they’re taking the issue seriously, but the pace at which it improves could be a whole lot faster, and EA/Dice certainly could be more open about it and let us know what’s going on. I keep a list of the players that I think were cheating, some of which I reported, and it would be quite amusing (schadenfreude ftw) to revisit their stats once it seems the hacks have been defeated. How are people checking other player’s match history? It doesn’t look like battlefield tracker “recent sessions” is accurate by any measure. ---
**Author:** ![FrozenCamel](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/frozencamel/32/102012_2.png) [@FrozenCamel](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FrozenCamel)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 7:35am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/806 "2018-01-29T07:35:00Z")
_post removed due to being off topic_ ---
**Author:** ![IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/illilliii/32/102293_2.png) [@IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IllIllIII)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 7:55am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/807 "2018-01-29T07:55:00Z")
Wrong section? ---
**Author:** ![Revokah](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/revokah/32/103267_2.png) [@Revokah](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Revokah)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 8:08am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/808 "2018-01-29T08:08:00Z")
Yea must be, she’s a hacker anyway ---
**Author:** ![FrozenCamel](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/frozencamel/32/102012_2.png) [@FrozenCamel](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FrozenCamel)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 8:15am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/809 "2018-01-29T08:15:00Z")
> [@Revokah](#): > > Yea must be, she’s a hacker anyway lol ---
**Author:** ![MachoFantast1c0](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/machofantast1c0/32/100978_2.png) [@MachoFantast1c0](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MachoFantast1c0)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 8:39am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/810 "2018-01-29T08:39:00Z")
> [@Micas99](#): > > I keep a list of the players that I think were cheating, some of which I reported, and it would be quite amusing (schadenfreude ftw) to revisit their stats once it seems the hacks have been defeated. How are people checking other player’s match history? It doesn’t look like battlefield tracker “recent sessions” is accurate by any measure. As far as I can tell, Recent Sessions on the Overview page is accurate, but groups play sessions between visits to that player’s tracker page. So unless you visit daily/frequently, the date per session is the time when the game client last started a play session for sessions since the previous recorded session on the tracker (phew, hopefully that was at least somewhat clear). You can use the Game Score By Day graph so try and gauge how they are actually distributed to calendar days. . Game Reports would be the ultimate tool, but unfortunately it is not really working for larger game modes (CQ, Operations). You can see stats for individual games broken down per weapon. . On Reddit someone posted a combination of first-person opponent plus spectator footage of a wallhacker/aimbotter with 60k cheat kills. I can only assume he is using a subscription cheat, but it really speaks to a sorry state of affairs that they can go on for such extended periods. ---
**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 8:57am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/811 "2018-01-29T08:57:00Z")
@Pamela\_hot\_girl Video sharing section is here \> [https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/categories/video-sharing](https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/categories/video-sharing) ---
**Author:** ![D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/d5rat/32/100944_2.png) [@D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/D5RAT)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 9:23am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/812 "2018-01-29T09:23:00Z")
The reason there is an increase in cheating again after a period of calm is the game is being heavily discounted and so are the cheats ,$5 ,$10 offers as the game becomes less popular . Massive amount of lower level players who are obviously on 2nd or 3rd account after bans ---
**Author:** ![IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/illilliii/32/102293_2.png) [@IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IllIllIII)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 10:49am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/813 "2018-01-29T10:49:00Z")
> [@D5RAT](#): > > The reason there is an increase in cheating again after a period of calm is the game is being heavily discounted and so are the cheats ,$5 ,$10 offers as the game becomes less popular . Massive amount of lower level players who are obviously on 2nd or 3rd account after bans An average of 2-3 rank 130’s each match. The rest is like 80 or less… Their main got banned probably. ---
**Author:** ![FrozenCamel](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/frozencamel/32/102012_2.png) [@FrozenCamel](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FrozenCamel)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/814 "2018-01-29T21:14:00Z")
> [@LOLGotYerTags](#): > > @Pamela\_hot\_girl > > Video sharing section is here \> [https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/categories/video-sharing](https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/categories/video-sharing) I know i just want to break fake news here but thx anyway.. ---
**Author:** ![Oskool\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/oskool_007/32/103047_2.png) [@Oskool\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Oskool_007)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/815 "2018-01-29T22:01:00Z")
New patch goes live tomorrow. I hope it scambles the game for cheat developers so we can have at least 2 days of cheat free gaming. I’m planning on taking full advantage of the small window we’ll have. No tank ESPers. Everyone playing like they’re a noob. The next couple of days are going to be fun! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/illilliii/32/102293_2.png) [@IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IllIllIII)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 10:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/816 "2018-01-29T22:02:00Z")
I’ll make sure to be online, wonder if i notice the difference. ---
**Author:** ![FrozenCamel](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/frozencamel/32/102012_2.png) [@FrozenCamel](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FrozenCamel)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 12:20am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/817 "2018-01-30T00:20:00Z")
> [@IllIllIII](#): > > I’ll make sure to be online, wonder if i notice the difference. But you are always online day or night doesn’t matter ---
**Author:** ![TyroneLoyd\_TV](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tyroneloyd_tv/32/103927_2.png) [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TyroneLoyd_TV)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 5:15am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/818 "2018-01-30T05:15:00Z")
> [@Pamela\_hot\_girl](#): > > > [@LOLGotYerTags](#): > > > > @Pamela\_hot\_girl > > > > Video sharing section is here \> [https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/categories/video-sharing](https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/categories/video-sharing) > > I know i just want to break fake news here but thx anyway.. What fake news? ---
**Author:** ![IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/illilliii/32/102293_2.png) [@IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IllIllIII)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 6:18am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/819 "2018-01-30T06:18:00Z")
> [@Pamela\_hot\_girl](#): > > > [@IllIllIII](#): > > > > I’ll make sure to be online, wonder if i notice the difference. > > But you are always online day or night doesn’t matter You have 347 hours more then me… > [@TyroneLoyd](#): > > > [@Pamela\_hot\_girl](#): > > > > > [@LOLGotYerTags](#): > > > > > > @Pamela\_hot\_girl > > > > > > Video sharing section is here \> [https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/categories/video-sharing](https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/categories/video-sharing) > > > > I know i just want to break fake news here but thx anyway.. > > What fake news? The news “she” brings. ---
**Author:** ![TyroneLoyd\_TV](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tyroneloyd_tv/32/103927_2.png) [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TyroneLoyd_TV)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 6:57am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/820 "2018-01-30T06:57:00Z")
> [@IllIllIII](#): > > > [@Pamela\_hot\_girl](#): > > > > > [@IllIllIII](#): > > > > > > I’ll make sure to be online, wonder if i notice the difference. > > > > But you are always online day or night doesn’t matter > > You have 347 hours more then me… > > > [@TyroneLoyd](#): > > > > > [@Pamela\_hot\_girl](#): > > > > > > > [@LOLGotYerTags](#): > > > > > > > > @Pamela\_hot\_girl > > > > > > > > Video sharing section is here \> [https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/categories/video-sharing](https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/categories/video-sharing) > > > > > > I know i just want to break fake news here but thx anyway.. > > > > What fake news? > > The news “she” brings. Well I hope she’s not talking about the balancer lol. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902.md?page=40) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902.md?page=42)