# Impossible to play without seeing a cheat

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902>\
**Category:** PC\
**Created:** [March 30, 2017, 11:29pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902 "2017-03-30T23:29:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/d5rat/32/100944_2.png) [@D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/D5RAT)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 11:50am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/841 "2018-02-03T11:50:00Z")

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> [@Pamela\_hot\_girl](#):
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> You believe in that? I left this game for 3 months unable to play on West Coast servers including November and December because of massive scale cheating.. Worst affected servers are one in Asia and then Weasf Coast.. I even went to play in Africa but my ping of 350 make those servers unplayable for me so i stopped playing . Just saying.. Don’t believe in everything you read..

I know so.. I spend a lot of my time on the cheat site forums.. I know that in November fair fight banned 6217 players in one go . They also encoded entities making it almost impossible for free cheats to be used and even some subscription cheats became detectable and very difficult to update for the coders. Yes this game still has cheats still has its problems but it is no worse than any other PC game now before November it was a joke and there were 2 or 3 cheats in every server

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**Author:** ![FrozenCamel](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/frozencamel/32/102012_2.png) [@FrozenCamel](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FrozenCamel)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 11:56am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/842 "2018-02-03T11:56:00Z")

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> [@FPSgamer69](#):
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> > [@Revokah](#):
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> > I ain’t standing to lose a game I didn’t deserve to lose
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> lol ..single player remark

Yap He is very good Battlefield player but only in bailing out…

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**Author:** ![IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/illilliii/32/102293_2.png) [@IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IllIllIII)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 12:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/843 "2018-02-03T12:01:00Z")

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> [@Pamela\_hot\_girl](#):
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> > [@FPSgamer69](#):
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> > > [@Revokah](#):
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> > > I ain’t standing to lose a game I didn’t deserve to lose
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> > lol ..single player remark
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> Yap He is very good Battlefield player but only in bailing out…

I get why you won’t bail when your losing.  
You’d end up bailing every match…

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**Author:** ![Revokah](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/revokah/32/103267_2.png) [@Revokah](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Revokah)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 12:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/844 "2018-02-03T12:02:00Z")

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> [@Pamela\_hot\_girl](#):
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> > [@FPSgamer69](#):
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> > > [@Revokah](#):
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> > > I ain’t standing to lose a game I didn’t deserve to lose
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> > lol ..single player remark
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> Yap He is very good Battlefield player but only in bailing out…

Yeah I’m only good at bailing out xD your so jealous it’s almost painful to read. Good job I’m a good sport. Back to the meaning of the thread since this new anti cheat has come in has anyone else noticed massive performance drop? Mines horrible to play at the moment still says I’m getting 144fps but it feels absolutely awful. The ingame loadings time are atrocious. I’d personally rather play against the cheats than drop over 2 grand on a rig and wait for it to load… zZzZzZ

Oh and just FYI @Pamela\_hot\_girl I’m 10 times the player you could ever dream to be, and I have carpal tunnel syndrome, how embarrassing.

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**Author:** ![FrozenCamel](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/frozencamel/32/102012_2.png) [@FrozenCamel](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FrozenCamel)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 12:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/845 "2018-02-03T12:07:00Z")

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> [@Revokah](#):
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> > [@Pamela\_hot\_girl](#):
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> > > [@FPSgamer69](#):
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> > > > [@Revokah](#):
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> > > > I ain’t standing to lose a game I didn’t deserve to lose
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> > > lol ..single player remark
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> > Yap He is very good Battlefield player but only in bailing out…
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> Yeah I’m only good at bailing out xD your so jealous it’s almost painful to read. Good job I’m a good sport. Back to the meaning of the thread since this new anti cheat has come in has anyone else noticed massive performance drop? Mines horrible to play at the moment still says I’m getting 144fps but it feels absolutely awful. The ingame loadings time are atrocious. I’d personally rather play against the cheats than drop over 2 grand on a rig and wait for it to load… zZzZzZ

It doesn’t mater if you play against cheat or regular player 99.99% chances is that you will bail out regardless to keep your record clean..

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**Author:** ![D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/d5rat/32/100944_2.png) [@D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/D5RAT)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 12:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/846 "2018-02-03T12:07:00Z")

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> [@Revokah](#):
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> > [@Pamela\_hot\_girl](#):
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> > > [@FPSgamer69](#):
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> > > > [@Revokah](#):
> > > >
> > > > I ain’t standing to lose a game I didn’t deserve to lose
> > > 
> > > lol ..single player remark
> > 
> > Yap He is very good Battlefield player but only in bailing out…
> 
> Yeah I’m only good at bailing out xD your so jealous it’s almost painful to read. Good job I’m a good sport. Back to the meaning of the thread since this new anti cheat has come in has anyone else noticed massive performance drop? Mines horrible to play at the moment still says I’m getting 144fps but it feels absolutely awful. The ingame loadings time are atrocious. I’d personally rather play against the cheats than drop over 2 grand on a rig and wait for it to load… zZzZzZ

What’s obviously happened is dice have taken on an anti cheat coder probably an ex cheat code writer ,they have asked them to make it very difficult for the cheats in this game unfortunately it came at a price of performance. They are going to have to find a better balance between the two otherwise for the next Battlefield game the minimum specifications are going to be extremely high

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**Author:** ![FrozenCamel](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/frozencamel/32/102012_2.png) [@FrozenCamel](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FrozenCamel)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 12:12pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/847 "2018-02-03T12:12:00Z")

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I bet that update messed up game little no anticheat

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**Author:** ![Revokah](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/revokah/32/103267_2.png) [@Revokah](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Revokah)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 12:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/848 "2018-02-03T12:14:00Z")

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> [@D5RAT](#):
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> > [@Revokah](#):
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> > > [@Pamela\_hot\_girl](#):
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> > > > [@FPSgamer69](#):
> > > >
> > > > > [@Revokah](#):
> > > > >
> > > > > I ain’t standing to lose a game I didn’t deserve to lose
> > > > 
> > > > lol ..single player remark
> > > 
> > > Yap He is very good Battlefield player but only in bailing out…
> > 
> > Yeah I’m only good at bailing out xD your so jealous it’s almost painful to read. Good job I’m a good sport. Back to the meaning of the thread since this new anti cheat has come in has anyone else noticed massive performance drop? Mines horrible to play at the moment still says I’m getting 144fps but it feels absolutely awful. The ingame loadings time are atrocious. I’d personally rather play against the cheats than drop over 2 grand on a rig and wait for it to load… zZzZzZ
> 
> What’s obviously happened is dice have taken on an anti cheat coder probably an ex cheat code writer ,they have asked them to make it very difficult for the cheats in this game unfortunately it came at a price of performance. They are going to have to find a better balance between the two otherwise for the next Battlefield game the minimum specifications are going to be extremely high

Yeh it’s not the best way really, they’ll end up pricing people out of pc gaming again… I bought the best I could at the time only thing I could of bought is a 1080ti over a 1080, but my 1080 should run 1080p games without breaking a sweat… even before I clocked it to 2100mhz

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**Author:** ![FrozenCamel](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/frozencamel/32/102012_2.png) [@FrozenCamel](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FrozenCamel)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 12:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/849 "2018-02-03T12:17:00Z")

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I have 1060 and don’t have problem.. Must be your pc configuration.. Try to no overclock your card if you playing 1080p..That sometime create problems especially if you run MSI burner..

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**Author:** ![D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/d5rat/32/100944_2.png) [@D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/D5RAT)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 12:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/850 "2018-02-03T12:32:00Z")

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One thing I have noticed about this game is that high frames per second don’t always equal a smooth experience

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**Author:** ![Revokah](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/revokah/32/103267_2.png) [@Revokah](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Revokah)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 12:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/851 "2018-02-03T12:34:00Z")

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I’m locked out at 144 and it isnt smooth at all feels like 60fps

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**Author:** ![IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/illilliii/32/102293_2.png) [@IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IllIllIII)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 12:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/852 "2018-02-03T12:38:00Z")

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> [@D5RAT](#):
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> One thing I have noticed about this game is that high frames per second don’t always equal a smooth experience

You notice the difference between stutters (where you refer to) and low fps.

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**Author:** ![TyroneLoyd\_TV](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tyroneloyd_tv/32/103927_2.png) [@TyroneLoyd\_TV](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TyroneLoyd_TV)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 1:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/853 "2018-02-03T13:11:00Z")

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Been having a rough da

> [@GOGUMANDU](#):
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> name/shame whatever. why is DICE so concerned about protecting cheaters, ignoring legit players suffered from those cheater? I cannot understand. Are they worrying about losing bf1 players for cheater? is that it?

You do understand most gaming forums have this rules right? Theres a reason for it . Its to prevent witch hunts and pure toxicity on the fourms. I wish people would get it through there thick skulls for once that the world doesnt revolve around them and there demands.

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**Author:** ![Oskool\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/oskool_007/32/103047_2.png) [@Oskool\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Oskool_007)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 6:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/854 "2018-02-03T18:16:00Z")

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[![Video: PUBG LONGARM HACK NEW](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/e/9/e9898de04c97c27321259ebc9d451d52c576a352.jpeg "PUBG LONGARM HACK NEW") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAf-S99rY_0)

Long arm hack. PC gaming, you never change.

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**Author:** ![IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/illilliii/32/102293_2.png) [@IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IllIllIII)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/855 "2018-02-03T19:30:00Z")

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> [@Oskool\_007](#):
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> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAf-S99rY\_0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAf-S99rY_0)
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> Long arm hack. PC gaming, you never change.

HAHAHAHA!  
thats probably the funniest thing i have seen in this 358 pages thread.  
Thanx for the laugh.

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**Author:** ![Cheers4Eers](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/cheers4eers/32/101498_2.png) [@Cheers4Eers](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Cheers4Eers)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/856 "2018-02-03T19:44:00Z")

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^  
Bahahahahah!!!  
Hilarious.

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**Author:** ![Micas99](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/micas99/32/102800_2.png) [@Micas99](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Micas99)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 10:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/857 "2018-02-03T22:41:00Z")

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> [@ADVANTedge](#):
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> I know hackers personally, and you’re only looking at a small fraction of the obvious hackers that rune the game, you haven’t seen the larger community that simply toggles ESP is astounding like you wouldn’t believe. recently though, EA has somehow given BF4 servers the ability to kick known cheaters rather than blast their name in chat by the detection system so hopefully they’ll give the greenlight to do that here as well. Do we even have a Community rep to comment on this?

Finally, somebody that gets it. From reading this thread, it seems like most people only consider someone a cheater if the player is going on a head-shot bot killing spree. Most cheaters don’t want to get caught. Some use a bot configured to rarely get a head shot, and have a certain percentage of flat out misses. Some only use ESP, which is a huge advantage in its own right, while being careful how they track. The vast majority of players on a server have zero clue that they’re playing with cheaters.

I’m not sure what this change to BF4 is that you mention. Known BF4 cheaters are banned by meta, and prevented from playing on servers that stream the metabans. That’s why you’d find servers that stream metabans are far cleaner than any BF1 game. In BF4, you can record a cheater, or present a case based on statistics, and within a few hours that player will be banned and unable to join any servers that stream the ban, as long as you made your case. It’s community policing and it works really well. EA didn’t like that loss of control, so you get the RSP in BF1. I’ve made 8 metaban requests in the past couple months in BF4, all resulted in bans, so players no longer joining rented servers that stream the bans. It’s glorious. But even with the meta process, players that just run ESP are rarely ever banned unless they’re so stupid to constantly track targets through walls. The most popular cheating method in BF4 is AHK for no-recoil and ESP. They’ll never get caught. The non-idiots can still cheat in BF4, just as they can continually cheat in BF1.

Probably the funniest thing in BF1 now is some guy going with say, 2-1 KD (which seems very normal), but sense something fishy. Go look to see if he has a metaban, and sure enough.. yup. Metabans are cross-game for those that are supported, which would have totally hosed a bunch of players going from BF4 to BF1, which is probably the reason why the RSP in BF1 is so bad now. EA is totally not down with players self-policing because of the “cheaters are customers too” philosophy.

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**Author:** ![Confucius\_o](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/confucius_o/32/101549_2.png) [@Confucius\_o](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Confucius_o)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 10:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/858 "2018-02-03T22:49:00Z")

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> [@Revokah](#):
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> Back to the meaning of the thread since this new anti cheat has come in has anyone else noticed massive performance drop?

Yap.

I see a drop.

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**Author:** ![FPSgamer69](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@FPSgamer69](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FPSgamer69)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 10:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/859 "2018-02-03T22:59:00Z")

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no performance drop…do not notice new anti-cheat either

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**Author:** ![IamNotThatWhichU](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/4af34b/32.png) [@IamNotThatWhichU](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IamNotThatWhichU)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 11:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/impossible-to-play-without-seeing-a-cheat/103902/860 "2018-02-03T23:18:00Z")

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Didnt know there was any new anti-cheat, cos i still see cheaters on servers. Havent noticed any performance drop either. I can only assum the people with performance issues havnt got their systems configured correctly.

Having said that, spot flares during the daytime (which most maps are) is THE most ridiculous idea i have ever seen.

By the way, does Dice puposefully stack one team with high EXP players, and put all the n00bs on the other team, or is that just complete co-incidence?

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