# Inital thoughts on Gamers and NDA **URL:** \ **Category:** Off-Topic\ **Created:** [July 6, 2016, 3:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/inital-thoughts-on-gamers-and-nda/108933 "2016-07-06T15:49:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lordmang4)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 3:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/inital-thoughts-on-gamers-and-nda/108933/1 "2016-07-06T15:49:00Z")
Earlier, I defined “irony” as giving gamers closed alpha/beta access and making them agree to an NDA (non-disclosure agreement) when many have no idea what an NDA really means and only know how to select that checkbox which states that they will agree to abide by the NDA. I should have also defined “insanity” as expecting a result after many instances have shown time again that the result probably won’t happen. Why game developers/publishers continue to ask gamers to abide by NDAs when most gamers don’t know or don’t care is beyond me. ---
**Author:** ![pinchylillobster](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pinchylillobster/32/103128_2.png) [@pinchylillobster](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/pinchylillobster)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 5:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/inital-thoughts-on-gamers-and-nda/108933/2 "2016-07-06T17:38:00Z")
I always assumed the Non-Disclosure Agreement was pretty self explanatory. Don’t disclose anything from the alpha. I guess reading is hard. I get a pretty good laugh when someone hops on the forums asking what happened to their alpha access, only to have Braddock reveal that they broke their NDA and their access was revoked. ---
**Author:** ![Crispy\_Pinguin](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crispy_pinguin/32/101414_2.png) [@Crispy\_Pinguin](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Crispy_Pinguin)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 5:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/inital-thoughts-on-gamers-and-nda/108933/3 "2016-07-06T17:39:00Z")
Like this fine specimen ! forums.battlefield.com/en-us/discussion/7051/bugs-report ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 5:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/inital-thoughts-on-gamers-and-nda/108933/4 "2016-07-06T17:58:00Z")
Some people just have an aversion to reading. This forum and other gaming forums prove that in spades. ---
**Author:** ![Crispy\_Pinguin](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crispy_pinguin/32/101414_2.png) [@Crispy\_Pinguin](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Crispy_Pinguin)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 6:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/inital-thoughts-on-gamers-and-nda/108933/5 "2016-07-06T18:02:00Z")
> [@Loqtrall](#): > > Some people just have an aversion to reading. This forum and other gaming forums prove that in spades. it hurts my feeling on how idiots get keys… its like they said hmm lets give the noobs the keys and have a laugh ---
**Author:** ![MasterOfJimmies](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/db5fbb/32.png) [@MasterOfJimmies](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MasterOfJimmies)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/inital-thoughts-on-gamers-and-nda/108933/6 "2016-07-06T18:03:00Z")
When encountering a large page of fine writing most people generally tend to skip or ignore it as can be seen with large forum posts. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 6:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/inital-thoughts-on-gamers-and-nda/108933/7 "2016-07-06T18:04:00Z")
## [Link to section: I know how you feel. I signed up as a BF Insider literally the day it stated you could get access to the alpha and early access to the beta, and have left my e-mail open in a tab every single day, and](#i-know-how-you-feel-i-signed-up-as-a-bf-insider-literally-the-day-it-stated-you-could-get-access-to-the-alpha-and-early-access-to-the-beta-and-have-left-my-e-mail-open-in-a-tab-every-single-day-and-have-gotten-one-e-mail-from-the-bf-insider-program-and-it-had-nothing-to-do-with-alpha-beta-or-anything-else-1)I know how you feel. I signed up as a BF Insider literally the day it stated you could get access to the alpha and early access to the beta, and have left my e-mail open in a tab every single day, and have gotten ONE e-mail from the BF Insider program, and it had nothing to do with alpha, beta, or anything else. I’ve been waiting patiently and was stoked to be able to give feedback on the alpha if I got in, but it doesn’t look like it’s gonna happen at this point. ---
**Author:** ![SatanicMutant](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/satanicmutant/32/103369_2.png) [@SatanicMutant](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SatanicMutant)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/inital-thoughts-on-gamers-and-nda/108933/8 "2016-07-06T18:59:00Z")
> [@Lordmang4](#): > > Earlier, I defined “irony” as giving gamers closed alpha/beta access and making them agree to an NDA (non-disclosure agreement) when many have no idea what an NDA really means and only know how to select that checkbox which states that they will agree to abide by the NDA. > I should have also defined “insanity” as expecting a result after many instances have shown time again that the result probably won’t happen. > Why game developers/publishers continue to ask gamers to abide by NDAs when most gamers don’t know or don’t care is beyond me. It’s a means to prosecute the rebels ---
**Author:** ![DrVanNostrand1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@DrVanNostrand1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DrVanNostrand1)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/inital-thoughts-on-gamers-and-nda/108933/9 "2016-07-06T19:01:00Z")
you’re just jelly… ---
**Author:** ![Crispy\_Pinguin](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crispy_pinguin/32/101414_2.png) [@Crispy\_Pinguin](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Crispy_Pinguin)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/inital-thoughts-on-gamers-and-nda/108933/10 "2016-07-06T19:04:00Z")
> [@Loqtrall](#): > > ## I know how you feel. I signed up as a BF Insider literally the day it stated you could get access to the alpha and early access to the beta, and have left my e-mail open in a tab every single day, and have gotten ONE e-mail from the BF Insider program, and it had nothing to do with alpha, beta, or anything else. > > I’ve been waiting patiently and was stoked to be able to give feedback on the alpha if I got in, but it doesn’t look like it’s gonna happen at this point. and then knowing that the beta will be an open one so that signing up was just for who knows. the day the beta will be available you’ll see it in the store of Microsoft or the psn store! so they still need to explain what the point of signing up was. ---
**Author:** ![Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lordmang4)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 7:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/inital-thoughts-on-gamers-and-nda/108933/11 "2016-07-06T19:06:00Z")
> [@DrVanNostrand1](#): > > you’re just jelly… I’m just amused at seeing all the NDA-violation threads being created all over the BF forums and then watching all the moderation staff scramble to keep up with the deluge and lock all these NDA-violation threads. ---
**Author:** ![Crispy\_Pinguin](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crispy_pinguin/32/101414_2.png) [@Crispy\_Pinguin](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Crispy_Pinguin)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 7:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/inital-thoughts-on-gamers-and-nda/108933/12 "2016-07-06T19:07:00Z")
> [@Lordmang4](#): > > > [@DrVanNostrand1](#): > > > > you’re just jelly… > > I’m just amused at seeing all the NDA-violation threads being created all over the BF forums and then watching all the moderation staff scramble to keep up with the deluge and lock all these NDA-violation threads. it blows me mind, that people are that stupid. if you ask to people that are playing the alpha and you ask what does nda mean ? 75% will not know what it is ! ---
**Author:** ![Scumbag\_of\_Space](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/scumbag_of_space/32/103398_2.png) [@Scumbag\_of\_Space](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Scumbag_of_Space)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/inital-thoughts-on-gamers-and-nda/108933/13 "2016-07-06T19:14:00Z")
I think it’s ridiculous that EA would even ask gamers to abide by a non-disclosure agreement. Most of them can barely write properly so it’s hard to have any faith in them reading either. Anyone know what punishments they’ll dish out to violators? ---
**Author:** ![DrVanNostrand1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@DrVanNostrand1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DrVanNostrand1)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/inital-thoughts-on-gamers-and-nda/108933/14 "2016-07-06T19:16:00Z")
> [@Scumbag\_of\_Space](#): > > Most of them can barely write properly so it’s hard to have any faith in them reading either. dude,you’re buying milk based on color ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/inital-thoughts-on-gamers-and-nda/108933/15 "2016-07-06T19:16:00Z")
> [@Scumbag\_of\_Space](#): > > I think it’s ridiculous that EA would even ask gamers to abide by a non-disclosure agreement. Most of them can barely write properly so it’s hard to have any faith in them reading either. Anyone know what punishments they’ll dish out to violators? ## [Link to section: The extent of “punishment” is probably having whatever leaks they publish on the web removed. There have been tons of YouTube videos on Reddit removed almost as soon as they were linked, and threads h](#the-extent-of-punishment-is-probably-having-whatever-leaks-they-publish-on-the-web-removed-there-have-been-tons-of-youtube-videos-on-reddit-removed-almost-as-soon-as-they-were-linked-and-threads-here-are-constantly-being-closed-1)The extent of “punishment” is probably having whatever leaks they publish on the web removed. There have been tons of YouTube videos on Reddit removed almost as soon as they were linked, and threads here are constantly being closed. Doesn’t seem like there’s much else they can do aside from finding whatever account said person is using for the closed alpha and denying them access to it. ---
**Author:** ![Scumbag\_of\_Space](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/scumbag_of_space/32/103398_2.png) [@Scumbag\_of\_Space](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Scumbag_of_Space)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 7:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/inital-thoughts-on-gamers-and-nda/108933/16 "2016-07-06T19:19:00Z")
> [@Loqtrall](#): > > > [@Scumbag\_of\_Space](#): > > > > I think it’s ridiculous that EA would even ask gamers to abide by a non-disclosure agreement. Most of them can barely write properly so it’s hard to have any faith in them reading either. Anyone know what punishments they’ll dish out to violators? > > ## The extent of “punishment” is probably having whatever leaks they publish on the web removed. There have been tons of YouTube videos on Reddit removed almost as soon as they were linked, and threads here are constantly being closed. > > Doesn’t seem like there’s much else they can do aside from finding whatever account said person is using for the closed alpha and denying them access to it. They should consider themselves lucky in that case. I’m sure EA would go further than that if they though they could get away with it. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 7:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/inital-thoughts-on-gamers-and-nda/108933/17 "2016-07-06T19:22:00Z")
If only they’d just read. I mean, is it really that hard to wait for the Open Beta to try and share all their gameplay with their friends? ---
**Author:** ![Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lordmang4)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 7:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/inital-thoughts-on-gamers-and-nda/108933/18 "2016-07-06T19:31:00Z")
> [@Scumbag\_of\_Space](#): > > I think it’s ridiculous that EA would even ask gamers to abide by a non-disclosure agreement. Agreed. That was the gist of my thread. ---
**Author:** ![Scumbag\_of\_Space](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/scumbag_of_space/32/103398_2.png) [@Scumbag\_of\_Space](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Scumbag_of_Space)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 7:37pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/inital-thoughts-on-gamers-and-nda/108933/19 "2016-07-06T19:37:00Z")
> [@Lordmang4](#): > > > [@Scumbag\_of\_Space](#): > > > > I think it’s ridiculous that EA would even ask gamers to abide by a non-disclosure agreement. > > Agreed. That was the gist of my thread. Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![DrVanNostrand1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@DrVanNostrand1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DrVanNostrand1)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 7:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/inital-thoughts-on-gamers-and-nda/108933/20 "2016-07-06T19:41:00Z")
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