# Intel bug could see a 30% performance hit on Directx games. **URL:** \ **Category:** PC\ **Created:** [January 4, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/intel-bug-could-see-a-30-performance-hit-on-directx-games/103909 "2018-01-04T15:48:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sed1Tion](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/85f322/32.png) [@Sed1Tion](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sed1Tion)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/intel-bug-could-see-a-30-performance-hit-on-directx-games/103909/1 "2018-01-04T15:48:00Z")
Security flaws in CPU hardware could result in patches that could see up to a 30% hit in performance in processes that interact with the operating system. A few popular titles have been tested in a patched Linux build with 0% impact. However these did not include any DirectX games which do interact heavily with the operating system. System impact will vary from chip to chip. 30% performance hit in BF1 ☹ Will be huge for a lot of players if it happens. AMD has stated there will be minimal impact for their users. ---
**Author:** ![D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/d5rat/32/100944_2.png) [@D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/D5RAT)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/intel-bug-could-see-a-30-performance-hit-on-directx-games/103909/2 "2018-01-04T16:02:00Z")
There should be zero impact for AMD users as there are no security flaws that are known at this present time on the AMD architecture.. but saying that Linux put out a patch for x 86 CPUs so all CPUs took a hit across the board hopefully Windows will not be so stupid . I know if my old i7 gets hit with a 30% deficit in this game it will be unplayable. Lol … Time for ryzen I think ---
**Author:** ![uz\_bolderaju](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/94ad74/32.png) [@uz\_bolderaju](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/uz_bolderaju)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 4:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/intel-bug-could-see-a-30-performance-hit-on-directx-games/103909/3 "2018-01-04T16:09:00Z")
ryzen … have you see any video with good framerate and frametimes on amd cpu`s ? [![Video: Benchmarking Windows 10 Meltdown Flaw Emergency Patch, What Can Desktop Users Expect?](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/8/7/87ef65c44d5ec1913a289c80d35f7fe0b0e8c425.jpeg "Benchmarking Windows 10 Meltdown Flaw Emergency Patch, What Can Desktop Users Expect?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qZksorJAuY) ---
**Author:** ![D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/d5rat/32/100944_2.png) [@D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/D5RAT)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/intel-bug-could-see-a-30-performance-hit-on-directx-games/103909/4 "2018-01-04T16:53:00Z")
> [@uz\_bolderaju](#): > > ryzen … have you see any video with good framerate and frametimes on amd cpu`s ? > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_qZksorJAuY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qZksorJAuY) Yes thanks especially in BF1 Ryzen is great ---
**Author:** ![uz\_bolderaju](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/94ad74/32.png) [@uz\_bolderaju](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/uz_bolderaju)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/intel-bug-could-see-a-30-performance-hit-on-directx-games/103909/5 "2018-01-04T17:15:00Z")
post some links with ryzen performance ---
**Author:** ![D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/d5rat/32/100944_2.png) [@D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/D5RAT)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 5:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/intel-bug-could-see-a-30-performance-hit-on-directx-games/103909/6 "2018-01-04T17:58:00Z")
> [@uz\_bolderaju](#): > > post some links with ryzen performance ok seeing as you cant find Google , heres a £210 ryzen 5 in BF1 https://www.youtube.com/embed/FglqxCNbFkg?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque ---
**Author:** ![serpico074](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/serpico074/32/103419_2.png) [@serpico074](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/serpico074)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/intel-bug-could-see-a-30-performance-hit-on-directx-games/103909/7 "2018-01-04T18:22:00Z")
There will be no problem in the games, rest assured. **Windows 10 CPU Bug Fix Patch Benchmarked** [guru3d.com/articles-pages/windows-vulnerability-cpu-meltdown-patch-benchmarked,1.html](http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/windows-vulnerability-cpu-meltdown-patch-benchmarked,1.html) Enjoy your battlefield peacefully. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![bass-junkie-xl](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bass-junkie-xl/32/101294_2.png) [@bass-junkie-xl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bass-junkie-xl)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/intel-bug-could-see-a-30-performance-hit-on-directx-games/103909/8 "2018-01-04T20:10:00Z")
i watched hardware unboxed on you tube + 4 other high end benchmarks with the patch games are not impacted the only things werth noting was hard drive random 4k read went down like 12 % big deal… some games went up 1 or 2 fps but thats a margine of error . it does not affect games it does nto affect rendering . random 4k read on your hard drives and barly a noticable diffrnce in aidia 64 memmory read write cache benchmark idia 64 on my 8700k 2 5 ghz and 4000mgz ram i droped 1 % compared to old scores and 4k read on my intel 600p m.2 ssd droped 7 % nothign to worry about … ---
**Author:** ![uz\_bolderaju](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/94ad74/32.png) [@uz\_bolderaju](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/uz_bolderaju)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 7:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/intel-bug-could-see-a-30-performance-hit-on-directx-games/103909/9 "2018-01-05T07:24:00Z")
> [@D5RAT](#): > > > [@uz\_bolderaju](#): > > > > post some links with ryzen performance > > ok seeing as you cant find Google , heres a £210 ryzen 5 in BF1 > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FglqxCNbFkg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FglqxCNbFkg) this is not battlefield , this is counter strike 😃 are you serious man ? post some 64 players conquest or operations on Amiens , then we will see what can that cpu handle ! on that small map you can get same results on Pentium on your video are no frame time graph ( that’s interesting why ryzen owners are hiding frame time on their videos ? 😃 ) ---
**Author:** ![LumoColor](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lumocolor/32/102691_2.png) [@LumoColor](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LumoColor)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 8:09am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/intel-bug-could-see-a-30-performance-hit-on-directx-games/103909/10 "2018-01-05T08:09:00Z")
4k 12% hit ouch, this article (translate from German) is also saying m.2 SSD’s are hit by similar amounts: [https://www.computerbase.de/2018-01/intel-cpu-pti-sicherheitsluecke/](https://www.computerbase.de/2018-01/intel-cpu-pti-sicherheitsluecke/) I put the patch on last night and couldn’t notice any difference over a game or two, but I never had any issues and always get 120 locked fps even when recording. Be interesting to see what happens with the already laggy servers when the patches start rolling out in cloud land as people are reporting performance hits: [https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/04/amazon\_ec2\_intel\_meltdown\_performance\_hit/](https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/04/amazon_ec2_intel_meltdown_performance_hit/) ---
**Author:** ![D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/d5rat/32/100944_2.png) [@D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/D5RAT)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 8:23am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/intel-bug-could-see-a-30-performance-hit-on-directx-games/103909/11 "2018-01-05T08:23:00Z")
> [@uz\_bolderaju](#): > > > [@D5RAT](#): > > > > > [@uz\_bolderaju](#): > > > > > > post some links with ryzen performance > > > > ok seeing as you cant find Google , heres a £210 ryzen 5 in BF1 > > > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FglqxCNbFkg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FglqxCNbFkg) > > this is not battlefield , this is counter strike 😃 are you serious man ? post some 64 players conquest or operations on Amiens , then we will see what can that cpu handle ! > > on that small map you can get same results on Pentium > > on your video are no frame time graph ( that’s interesting why ryzen owners are hiding frame time on their videos ? 😃 ) Use google your self you idiot its [google.com](http://google.com) ,Its obvious that whatever I post your fanboism will dismiss it as dark evil magic . oh and btw the frame times look fine here ,only the 7700k looks to struggle especially streaming [https://img.purch.com/r/600x450/aHR0cDovL21lZGlhLmJlc3RvZm1pY3JvLmNvbS9SLzYvNzMzMjE4L29yaWdpbmFsL2ltYWdlMDA0LnBuZw==](https://img.purch.com/r/600x450/aHR0cDovL21lZGlhLmJlc3RvZm1pY3JvLmNvbS9SLzYvNzMzMjE4L29yaWdpbmFsL2ltYWdlMDA0LnBuZw==) as you can see the Ryzen excels when multi tasking but there is not much to chose between them at the similar price point .Although a 1700 Ryzen will match the 1800x in most benchmarks and is £100 cheaper than a 8700k 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Viking2121](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/viking2121/32/104978_2.png) [@Viking2121](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Viking2121)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 10:48am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/intel-bug-could-see-a-30-performance-hit-on-directx-games/103909/12 "2018-01-05T10:48:00Z")
This should not affect gaming in General, there might be a performance issue with a game here and there, but we have yet to even see any tests. I’m more curious on what the older CPU’s might do on some certain workloads but I highly doubt gaming would be 1 of them tasks that would be affected by this. I have a i7 3770s I should run tests on before and after patch, and games. ---
**Author:** ![MassacreO\_O](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/massacreo_o/32/104904_2.png) [@MassacreO\_O](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MassacreO_O)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 1:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/intel-bug-could-see-a-30-performance-hit-on-directx-games/103909/13 "2018-01-05T13:09:00Z")
What’s the bet that Microsoft have known about it for months hence the fall creators update. ---
**Author:** ![JaKSLaP](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jakslap/32/102355_2.png) [@JaKSLaP](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JaKSLaP)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 1:47pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/intel-bug-could-see-a-30-performance-hit-on-directx-games/103909/14 "2018-01-05T13:47:00Z")
Just installed the update played 64 player monte grape was averaging around 90-110 fps ultra 1080p RX580, i7. Did notice any difference ---
**Author:** ![D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/d5rat/32/100944_2.png) [@D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/D5RAT)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 2:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/intel-bug-could-see-a-30-performance-hit-on-directx-games/103909/15 "2018-01-05T14:20:00Z")
> [@JaKSLaP](#): > > Just installed the update played 64 player monte grape was averaging around 90-110 fps ultra 1080p RX580, i7. > > Did notice any difference Desktop PCs don’t seem to affected . It’s data centers that will suffer = laggy gaming ..but we’re all used to that here 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![the\_naked\_ape](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/b5e925/32.png) [@the\_naked\_ape](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/the_naked_ape)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 2:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/intel-bug-could-see-a-30-performance-hit-on-directx-games/103909/16 "2018-01-05T14:38:00Z")
The patch for the Meltdown bug affects programs that have to request access to kernel functions. These include network and disk access. On the level of the individual user, this is not really an issue as few applications really demand high performance. It’s much more of an issue at the enterprise level, as high performance servers do a lot of disk acess and send/receive a lot of data. The bulk of the CPU-intensive stuff that BF1 does is managing the GPU. Userspace, in other words. The Meltdown patch is unlikely to affect performance significantly for most users. There is another bug - Spectre - that affects all CPU manufacturers, including AMD. This is not treatable with an OS update. ---
**Author:** ![D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/d5rat/32/100944_2.png) [@D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/D5RAT)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 3:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/intel-bug-could-see-a-30-performance-hit-on-directx-games/103909/17 "2018-01-05T15:35:00Z")
> [@the\_naked\_ape](#): > > The patch for the Meltdown bug affects programs that have to request access to kernel functions. These include network and disk access. On the level of the individual user, this is not really an issue as few applications really demand high performance. It’s much more of an issue at the enterprise level, as high performance servers do a lot of disk acess and send/receive a lot of data. The bulk of the CPU-intensive stuff that BF1 does is managing the GPU. Userspace, in other words. The Meltdown patch is unlikely to affect performance significantly for most users. > > There is another bug - Spectre - that affects all CPU manufacturers, including AMD. This is not treatable with an OS update. That’s not right , it is treatable . Exploits two of them do not affect AMD processors one of them is already patched by AMD. [https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/speculative-execution](https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/speculative-execution) ---
**Author:** ![virtualkill1432](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/virtualkill1432/32/104003_2.png) [@virtualkill1432](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/virtualkill1432)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 4:29pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/intel-bug-could-see-a-30-performance-hit-on-directx-games/103909/18 "2018-01-05T16:29:00Z")
Is that patch suppose to come with windows update or? ---
**Author:** ![D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/d5rat/32/100944_2.png) [@D5RAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/D5RAT)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/intel-bug-could-see-a-30-performance-hit-on-directx-games/103909/19 "2018-01-05T16:32:00Z")
> [@virtualkill1432](#): > > Is that patch suppose to come with windows update or? Yes via windows although I have read that Intel will only be supplying patches for the last five years of its CPUs at the minute with plans to patch all others soon but let’s face it the chances of you getting hacked by any of those means is negligible for a desktop user ---
**Author:** ![virtualkill1432](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/virtualkill1432/32/104003_2.png) [@virtualkill1432](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/virtualkill1432)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/intel-bug-could-see-a-30-performance-hit-on-directx-games/103909/20 "2018-01-05T17:08:00Z")
> [@D5RAT](#): > > > [@virtualkill1432](#): > > > > Is that patch suppose to come with windows update or? > > Yes via windows although I have read that Intel will only be supplying patches for the last five years of its CPUs at the minute with plans to patch all others soon but let’s face it the chances of you getting hacked by any of those means is negligible for a desktop user thanks for the info…btw even if someone could hack in my pc there is nothing to find there and i couldnt care less..its just a pixel world xDD [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/intel-bug-could-see-a-30-performance-hit-on-directx-games/103909.md?page=2)