# Is Battlefield 4 dead? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 20, 2019, 10:53am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-battlefield-4-dead/104656 "2019-09-20T10:53:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Doopravity](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/doopravity/32/105553_2.png) [@Doopravity](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Doopravity)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 10:53am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-battlefield-4-dead/104656/1 "2019-09-20T10:53:00Z")
From what I can see all the ‘full’ servers have spoofed player number. Also about 75% of the time I attempt to join a server I get “kicked by punkbuster” with no other context. ---
**Author:** ![Turban\_Legend80](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/turban_legend80/32/102395_2.png) [@Turban\_Legend80](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Turban_Legend80)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 12:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-battlefield-4-dead/104656/2 "2019-09-20T12:21:00Z")
Plenty of full servers on PS4 ---
**Author:** ![Marten2018](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Marten2018](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Marten2018)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 4:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-battlefield-4-dead/104656/3 "2019-09-20T16:33:00Z")
The PC’s Battlefield 4 is now officially dead! Because Battlelog has a very serious design flaw, It can easily make the server the attacker can launch a variety of attacks. [Join Server] button, Ability to easily use fake player attacks, Ability to easily use fake player attack tools to launch attacks, You can only see fake players forever. Unless you can only install Better Battlelog (BBLog) There are Chinese criminals in Asia, launching large-scale DDoS attacks on Asia servers every day, Asia, which has the largest number of players in the world, has less than 600 players left. I have to tell you that this game is really dead. ---
**Author:** ![Doopravity](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/doopravity/32/105553_2.png) [@Doopravity](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Doopravity)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 8:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-battlefield-4-dead/104656/4 "2019-09-20T20:54:00Z")
> [@Turban\_Legend80](#): > > Plenty of full servers on PS4 ‘On PC’\* I imagine console versions are still alive because they use Sony and Microsofts online management and not EA’s trash. That is one thing I will give console platforms is they can bypass the specific problem of crappy devs letting/killing games. ---
**Author:** ![MarauderFox](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@MarauderFox](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MarauderFox)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 3:13am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-battlefield-4-dead/104656/5 "2019-09-21T03:13:00Z")
BF4 is not dead; those servers are artificially inflating their player numbers for some reason Install BetterBattlelog if you use PC and it forces the server to report the real player count ---
**Author:** ![Pajotero](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/bb73d2/32.png) [@Pajotero](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Pajotero)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 8:32am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-battlefield-4-dead/104656/6 "2019-09-21T08:32:00Z")
There are still games to be had but I guess it depends where in the world you are. ---
**Author:** ![Odysejusz](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/ad7895/32.png) [@Odysejusz](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Odysejusz)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-battlefield-4-dead/104656/7 "2019-09-21T17:31:00Z")
> [@Doopravity](#): > > From what I can see all the ‘full’ servers have spoofed player number. Also about 75% of the time I attempt to join a server I get “kicked by punkbuster” with no other context. ---
**Author:** ![Odysejusz](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/ad7895/32.png) [@Odysejusz](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Odysejusz)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 5:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-battlefield-4-dead/104656/8 "2019-09-21T17:32:00Z")
[https://www.gametracker.com/search/bf4/](https://www.gametracker.com/search/bf4/) this game is alive i will be!!! ---
**Author:** ![Marten2018](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Marten2018](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Marten2018)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-battlefield-4-dead/104656/9 "2019-09-21T18:29:00Z")
> [@MarauderFox](#): > > BF4 is not dead; those servers are artificially inflating their player numbers for some reason > Install BetterBattlelog if you use PC and it forces the server to report the real player count I can tell you very clearly, This game in Asia is close to death. Because there is no way to assist foreign victim companies in providing legal assistance in China, Plus this game is illegal in China game. Therefore, such DDoS attacks are legal for the Chinese government, Even if Chinese players know who is suspicious, no one dares to report it to the police, because no one wants to report the crime, but is accused of crime by the government. But for players in other country, This is still unfair because the so-called Asia does not represent China’s sovereignty over Asia, For the rental server, it is also the commercial freedom of players in each country. The key problem, Still in the webpage code, just use the right mouse button and select [View Source Code] to find the server information, Plus the simplification of the DDoS attack tool, It’s too easy to launch a DDoS attack. You have to think in this matter, The server provider is unable to do any precautions, Because they have provided the best protection possible, Like a reverse lookup IP address. Under default, no one knows the server’s IP address and Port information, But Battlelog is fully available and used by Chinese criminals. You can imagine, in the last year, every day, more than 5,000 players online, More than 350 servers in Asia, But now there are no more than 800 online players every day. (Even worse) No more than 50 servers of all sizes in Asia. I think it is already near death, Because more than half of the players in Asia are special edition standard players. Also for this reason we can’t play DLC maps, Not because we don’t have it, but because many players don’t own it. Do you think this game is alive in Asia? I don’t think so ---
**Author:** ![MarauderFox](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@MarauderFox](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MarauderFox)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-battlefield-4-dead/104656/10 "2019-09-22T14:27:00Z")
I’m in Australia. If any game is alive here then it is alive everywhere else; this rule has never failed me. Asia has far more BC4 players on PC than Australia (we don’t come close) and I’ve played on Asia based servers with no issue. ---
**Author:** ![Marten2018](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Marten2018](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Marten2018)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-battlefield-4-dead/104656/11 "2019-09-22T14:43:00Z")
But you should not be able to deny what happened to the Asia server in July last year. What kind of environment do you think of Asia today? Is our number of players enough? Are the remaining servers all setting DLC maps? No! We have nothing, We only have standard players worth $99. (New Taiwan dollar, Can buy a burger price) We are waiting to die! ---
**Author:** ![MarauderFox](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@MarauderFox](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MarauderFox)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 3:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-battlefield-4-dead/104656/12 "2019-09-22T15:32:00Z")
“Can buy a burger price”; catch-phrase, tombstone epitaph, famous last words; that could be anything but I love it Asia doing better than Australia; please enjoy BF4 while you can, when it finally dies you’ll miss it despite the issues. ---
**Author:** ![Marten2018](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Marten2018](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Marten2018)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2019, 5:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-battlefield-4-dead/104656/13 "2019-09-22T17:45:00Z")
You don’t understand the meaning of this sentence at all. For Asian players, The value of this game is very low, even the importance of the game is the same. When Asia players are disconnected by intensive DDoS attacks, How many players do you think are willing to stay in this game? This is what happened just now. [00:47:32] SMilE\_SoundCloud has disconnected from the server (reason: Player left).. [00:47:39] SMilE\_SoundCloud has left the server [00:47:42] WinterlsComming \> find ddos attacker [00:47:43] AsakuraYoh\_Anna has disconnected from the server.. [00:47:49] AsakuraYoh\_Anna has left the server [00:47:43] -HERO-bf109 has disconnected from the server.. [00:47:50] -HERO-bf109 has left the server [00:47:45] WinterlsComming \> and ban him.. [00:47:45] Namake\_H1M4J1N has disconnected from the server.. [00:47:52] Namake\_H1M4J1N has left the server [00:47:48] Basilial has disconnected from the server.. [00:47:55] Basilial has left the server [00:47:55] Nazrul5 has joined the server [00:47:49] p1x1chN has disconnected from the server.. [00:47:56] p1x1chN has left the server [00:47:56] golf6682 has joined the server [00:47:51] Juceyoha has disconnected from the server.. [00:47:58] Juceyoha has left the server [00:47:52] Arctiid \> zzzzzz [00:47:57] kkykft has disconnected from the server.. [00:48:04] kkykft has left the server … Do you think this game is a normal survival in Asia? ---
**Author:** ![Marten2018](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Marten2018](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Marten2018)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 3:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-battlefield-4-dead/104656/14 "2019-09-23T15:10:00Z")
You do not understand the meaning of this sentence, For Asia players, the value of this game is very low, Even the importance of the game is the same. When Asia players are disconnected by intensive DDoS attacks, How many players do you think are willing to stay in this game? This is what happened just now. [00:47:32] SMilE\_SoundCloud has disconnected from the server (reason: Player left)..[00:47:39] SMilE\_SoundCloud has left the server [00:47:42] WinterlsComming \> find ddos attacker [00:47:43] AsakuraYoh\_Anna has disconnected from the server.. [00:47:49] AsakuraYoh\_Anna has left the server [00:47:43] -HERO-bf109 has disconnected from the server.. [00:47:50] -HERO-bf109 has left the server [00:47:45] WinterlsComming \> and ban him.. [00:47:45] Namake\_H1M4J1N has disconnected from the server.. [00:47:52] Namake\_H1M4J1N has left the server [00:47:48] Basilial has disconnected from the server.. [00:47:55] Basilial has left the server [00:47:55] Nazrul5 has joined the server [00:47:49] p1x1chN has disconnected from the server.. [00:47:56] p1x1chN has left the server [00:47:56] golf6682 has joined the server [00:47:51] Juceyoha has disconnected from the server.. [00:47:58] Juceyoha has left the server [00:47:52] Arctiid \> zzzzzz [00:47:57] kkykft has disconnected from the server.. [00:48:04] kkykft has left the server [00:47:58] Fubukirea has disconnected from the server.. [00:48:05] Fubukirea has left the server [00:47:59] beedolgi has disconnected from the server.. [00:48:05] beedolgi has left the server [00:48:05] WXN1994 has disconnected from the server.. [00:48:11] WXN1994 has left the server [00:48:05] OoOHINOoO has disconnected from the server.. [00:48:12] OoOHINOoO has left the server [00:48:13] KuugaTition has disconnected from the server.. [00:48:19] KuugaTition has left the server [00:48:20] Mikinekun has disconnected from the server.. [00:48:26] Mikinekun has left the server [00:48:20] max\_dadiao12 has disconnected from the server.. [00:48:27] max\_dadiao12 has left the server [00:48:34] AdKats \> Ticket logging started on round 1,618 [00:48:44] soonhaowei463 has joined the server [00:48:42] Pspin240 has disconnected from the server.. [00:48:49] Pspin240 has left the server [00:48:45] ISK1228 has disconnected from the server.. [00:48:51] ISK1228 has left the server [00:49:03] WinterlsComming has disconnected from the server.. [00:49:09] WinterlsComming has left the server [00:49:09] Mikinekun has joined the server [00:49:07] capitaltree has disconnected from the server.. [00:49:13] capitaltree has left the server [00:49:09] Arctiid has disconnected from the server.. [00:49:16] Arctiid has left the server [00:49:18] AdKats \> JuneSorrow just joined for the first time! [00:49:32] umemikan has disconnected from the server (reason: Player left).. [00:49:38] umemikan has left the server [00:49:40] Raymar03 has joined the server [00:49:43] Arctiid has joined the server [00:49:52] MeinCoder has joined the server [00:49:55] AdKats \> tango6297 just joined for the first time! [00:50:17] gjqkfll5478 has joined the server [00:50:18] golf6682 has disconnected from the server.. [00:50:25] golf6682 has left the server [00:50:28] [A10疣豬] xxxxx10086xxxxx [00:50:35] [LatencyManager] shayizhitong has no ping. (1) [00:50:32] FlowerWilting has disconnected from the server (reason: Player left).. [00:50:38] FlowerWilting has left the server [00:50:40] AUTOBALANCING [Player: laogengTV] [00:50:40] [LatencyManager] shayizhitong has no ping. (2) [00:50:40] [LatencyManager] shayizhitong has no ping. (3) [00:50:34] shayizhitong has disconnected from the server (reason: Player left).. [00:50:40] shayizhitong has left the server [00:50:43] JuneSorrow has disconnected from the server (reason: Player left).. [00:50:49] JuneSorrow has left the server [00:50:43] amyfishfish has disconnected from the server (reason: Player left).. [00:50:50] amyfishfish has left the server [00:50:51] CN\_Call\_Me\_Ghost has joined the server [00:50:45] Gunmen\_he has disconnected from the server (reason: Player left).. [00:50:52] Gunmen\_he has left the server [00:50:47] boopen has disconnected from the server.. [00:50:54] boopen has left the server [00:50:52] Krynotek has disconnected from the server.. [00:50:58] Krynotek has left the server [00:50:52] xxxxx10086xxxxx has disconnected from the server.. [00:50:59] xxxxx10086xxxxx has left the server [00:50:55] Marco\_WHF has disconnected from the server.. [00:51:01] Marco\_WHF has left the server [00:51:00] kennedy0828 has disconnected from the server.. [00:51:07] kennedy0828 has left the server [00:51:12] AdKats \> Nazrul5 just joined for the first time! [00:51:15] AdKats \> gjqkfll5478 just joined for the first time! [00:51:32] kmanso has disconnected from the server (reason: Player left).. [00:51:39] kmanso has left the server [00:51:35] CenturionK7 has disconnected from the server (reason: Player left).. [00:51:42] CenturionK7 has left the server [00:51:35] inoharu0221 has disconnected from the server (reason: Player left).. [00:51:42] inoharu0221 has left the server [00:51:37] Arctiid has disconnected from the server (reason: Player left).. [00:51:44] AdKats \> Server now in populating mode, with 19 populators. [00:51:44] Arctiid has left the server [00:51:38] GUBa-TH- has disconnected from the server (reason: Player left).. [00:51:44] GUBa-TH- has left the server [00:51:44] gjqkfll5478 has disconnected from the server (reason: Player left).. [00:51:50] gjqkfll5478 has left the server [00:51:48] soonhaowei463 has disconnected from the server (reason: Player left).. [00:51:55] soonhaowei463 has left the server [00:51:48] HamYaiKaiDamTH has disconnected from the server (reason: Player left).. [00:51:55] HamYaiKaiDamTH has left the server [00:51:56] AdKats \> [LOK]laogengTV just joined for the first time! [00:51:50] bravo7518 has disconnected from the server (reason: Player left).. [00:51:56] bravo7518 has left the server [00:51:51] Mikinekun has disconnected from the server.. [00:51:57] Mikinekun has left the server [00:51:57] CN\_Call\_Me\_Ghost has joined the server [00:51:51] RankingSeven has disconnected from the server.. [00:51:58] RankingSeven has left the server [00:51:54] ihong2002 has disconnected from the server.. [00:52:00] ihong2002 has left the server [00:51:57] Lily\_JJX has disconnected from the server.. [00:52:04] Lily\_JJX has left the server [00:52:09] AUTOBALANCING [Player: nightarrow01] [00:52:03] MeinCoder has disconnected from the server (reason: Player left).. [00:52:09] MeinCoder has left the server [00:52:18] \_JIAWENZHOU [AH-1Z毒蛇] laogengTV [00:52:29] laogengTV has disconnected from the server (reason: Player left).. [00:52:36] laogengTV has left the server [00:52:38] li62512001 has disconnected from the server (reason: Player left).. [00:52:44] li62512001 has left the server [00:52:39] tango6297 has disconnected from the server (reason: Player left).. [00:52:45] tango6297 has left the server [00:52:46] \_JIAWENZHOU has disconnected from the server (reason: Player left).. [00:52:52] \_JIAWENZHOU has left the server [00:52:48] 18923943107 has disconnected from the server (reason: Player left).. [00:52:55] 18923943107 has left the server [00:52:50] c0de\_name1 has disconnected from the server (reason: Player left).. [00:52:56] c0de\_name1 has left the server [00:52:54] Blazebeelzd \> lag? [00:52:58] Nazrul5 has disconnected from the server.. [00:53:05] Nazrul5 has left the server [00:53:11] nightarrow01 has disconnected from the server.. [00:53:18] nightarrow01 has left the server [00:53:48] VIP Slot Manager \> VIPs online: 0/35 [00:56:34] CN\_Call\_Me\_Ghost has disconnected from the server.. [00:56:41] CN\_Call\_Me\_Ghost has left the server Do you think this game is a normal survival in Asia? ---
**Author:** ![Marten2018](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Marten2018](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Marten2018)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 8:46am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-battlefield-4-dead/104656/15 "2019-09-24T08:46:00Z")
Yesterday and today my server was again attacked by Chinese criminals. Of course, this guy also has a lot of attacks on the Asian server, More importantly, this guy said that every time I started a DDoS attack. ![image](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/a/1/a158e072d5043779f5a0461f291be82c1626c3cc.png) Use this political position to decide who can play the game, And can easily launch DDoS attack environment, Do you think this game is living in Asia? I am suffering every day, I want to do this, To commit suicide. ---
**Author:** ![JediMastaWyn](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jedimastawyn/32/102384_2.png) [@JediMastaWyn](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JediMastaWyn)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 10:12am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-battlefield-4-dead/104656/16 "2019-09-24T10:12:00Z")
Game is pretty strong on PS4. Counted 54 European servers at peak times and still about 10 full off peak. may not be all the DLC but still a far chuck of the game is still playable! ---
**Author:** ![Marten2018](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Marten2018](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Marten2018)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-battlefield-4-dead/104656/17 "2019-09-24T16:42:00Z")
We have a lot of experience in PC, We can’t give up the Asia server because this criminal. Not to mention that we have our own servers in Asia, The servers of these two platforms are not shared. Are we going to give up such funds? This is unfair! Every time this offender launches a DDoS attack, he will definitely tell everyone that I am the real DDoS attacker. And through the PayPal and email information I left behind, This guy email scares me, Use Facebook to harass me. And intimidate my friends list of friends, This is China, a criminal who does not have any judicial justice! There is only one [Join Server] button, why should the entire Asian server suffer such damage? The game we are playing is called Battlefield 4, Not a DDoS attack game, Not even a political bullying game, Just because I am from Taiwan? We really need to solve this problem immediately. This is the situation of the Asia server a few hours ago. ![image](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/2/6/264764af0507e37838afb6649ae2c011c5852b65.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Marten2018](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Marten2018](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Marten2018)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 2:32am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-battlefield-4-dead/104656/18 "2019-09-25T02:32:00Z")
After 1 day, Large-scale DDoS attacks continue to occur, DDoS attackers from China continue to attack Asia servers, We are very helpless about this. As far as I am personally harassed and intimidated by the perpetrator, I don’t know when I can stick to it. ---
**Author:** ![opsis\_1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/e495f1/32.png) [@opsis\_1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/opsis_1)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 7:06am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-battlefield-4-dead/104656/19 "2019-09-27T07:06:00Z")
Dying but not dead. Use battlelog, veiw full server page. I cringe newb twitch players not finding servers in crap UI. DICE please fix this. ---
**Author:** ![Doopravity](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/doopravity/32/105553_2.png) [@Doopravity](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Doopravity)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 9:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-battlefield-4-dead/104656/20 "2019-09-28T21:31:00Z")
> [@opsis\_1](#): > > Dying but not dead. Use battlelog, veiw full server page. I cringe newb twitch players not finding servers in crap UI. DICE please fix this. For all intensive purposes it is. F2P indie games with no monetization manage to out rank bf4 in player count. Then ingame chat is nothing but complaining combined with admin bot. Battlefield 4 mine as well be all bots and nothing would be lost. Infact the game would be better because bots cant cheat its just a matter of how ai is designed. [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-battlefield-4-dead/104656.md?page=2)