# Is it just me or do vehicles look incredibly cumbersome **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 15, 2016, 1:58am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-vehicles-look-incredibly-cumbersome/102083 "2016-06-15T01:58:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SavedByToast](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/savedbytoast/32/103372_2.png) [@SavedByToast](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SavedByToast)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 1:58am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-vehicles-look-incredibly-cumbersome/102083/1 "2016-06-15T01:58:00Z")
Been watching a lot of the gameplay footage the past few days and from what I can tell vehicles appear to be incredibly slow/awkward handling and weak fire power. The gunplay looks crisp enough but I am worried about the vehicle combat aspect of BF1. Anyone else draw the same conclusions or am I being crazy here? ---
**Author:** ![ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thepoolshark/32/103801_2.png) [@ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThePoolshark)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 2:04am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-vehicles-look-incredibly-cumbersome/102083/2 "2016-06-15T02:04:00Z")
You are being crazy, tanks are scary in this build. Probably OP ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 2:06am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-vehicles-look-incredibly-cumbersome/102083/3 "2016-06-15T02:06:00Z")
Yeah, I saw tons of multi-OHK’s and huge splash damage in most of the tank gameplay I’ve seen so far, and most of it was from the side gunners, as well as them destroying pretty much EVERYTHING around them. ---
**Author:** ![Ameeba37](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ameeba37/32/101194_2.png) [@Ameeba37](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Ameeba37)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 2:08am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-vehicles-look-incredibly-cumbersome/102083/4 "2016-06-15T02:08:00Z")
WW1 tanks were super cumbersome. In BF1 they are already a lot more mobile than in reality. Firepower? One guy in the stream went 32-0 in a tank, they surely pack a punch. ---
**Author:** ![BoogieMan-1978](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/a88e4f/32.png) [@BoogieMan-1978](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BoogieMan-1978)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 2:08am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-vehicles-look-incredibly-cumbersome/102083/5 "2016-06-15T02:08:00Z")
The vehicles should be cumbersome and slow. Engines then did not produce power the same way they do now. Mechanized warfare, tanks and the like, we’re in their infancy. You are seeing the first generation of these machines. Enjoy the change of pace and flavor this new game will give you. Also, that’s kinda the whole point of doing a WWI game. ---
**Author:** ![B3ANTOWN\_B3A5T](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/b3antown_b3a5t/32/101262_2.png) [@B3ANTOWN\_B3A5T](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/B3ANTOWN_B3A5T)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 2:44am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-vehicles-look-incredibly-cumbersome/102083/6 "2016-06-15T02:44:00Z")
> [@Ameeba37](#): > > WW1 tanks were super cumbersome. In BF1 they are already a lot more mobile than in reality. > Firepower? One guy in the stream went 32-0 in a tank, they surely pack a punch. Take that with a grain of salt though. There were so many deer in headlights celebrities playing. It’s like Lebron scoring 100 on a high school team and calling basketball unbalanced. ---
**Author:** ![B3ANTOWN\_B3A5T](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/b3antown_b3a5t/32/101262_2.png) [@B3ANTOWN\_B3A5T](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/B3ANTOWN_B3A5T)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 2:48am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-vehicles-look-incredibly-cumbersome/102083/7 "2016-06-15T02:48:00Z")
> [@BoogieMan-1978](#): > > The vehicles should be cumbersome and slow. Engines then did not produce power the same way they do now. Mechanized warfare, tanks and the like, we’re in their infancy. You are seeing the first generation of these machines. Enjoy the change of pace and flavor this new game will give you. > > Also, that’s kinda the whole point of doing a WWI game. Balance over realism. Tanks being a chore to drive would kill a big part of the game. I was actually pleasantly surprised with how much smoother the tanks moved compared to the ones in BF4 that get stuck on blades of grass, expecially with how much rubble and mangled terrain was in the demo map ---
**Author:** ![SavedByToast](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/savedbytoast/32/103372_2.png) [@SavedByToast](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SavedByToast)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-vehicles-look-incredibly-cumbersome/102083/8 "2016-06-15T03:11:00Z")
> [@B3ANTOWN\_\_B3A5T](#): > > Take that with a grain of salt though. There were so many deer in headlights celebrities playing. This. Some of these celebrities probably never even played a video game before. Probably didn’t know how to even shoot their guns much less know how to use cover against vehicles. I rather see more gameplay and technical aspects of the game than see rappers smoking blunts. Wtf was EA thinking? ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-vehicles-look-incredibly-cumbersome/102083/9 "2016-06-15T03:11:00Z")
> [@GhostOwI](#): > > > [@B3ANTOWN\_\_B3A5T](#): > > > > Take that with a grain of salt though. There were so many deer in headlights celebrities playing. > > This. Some of these celebrities probably never even played a video game before. Probably didn’t know how to even shoot their guns much less know how to use cover against vehicles. > > I rather see more gameplay and technical aspects of the game than see rappers smoking blunts. was EA thinking? There were also “pro” players expressing how powerful the tanks were as well, as well as a moderator for this forum right up this very page. They weren’t just overpowered in the sense that maybe TEN out of 64 people were clueless celebs that didn’t know what they were doing. ---
**Author:** ![Ameeba37](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ameeba37/32/101194_2.png) [@Ameeba37](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Ameeba37)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 3:12am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-vehicles-look-incredibly-cumbersome/102083/10 "2016-06-15T03:12:00Z")
> [@B3ANTOWN\_\_B3A5T](#): > > > [@Ameeba37](#): > > > > WW1 tanks were super cumbersome. In BF1 they are already a lot more mobile than in reality. > > Firepower? One guy in the stream went 32-0 in a tank, they surely pack a punch. > > Take that with a grain of salt though. There were so many deer in headlights celebrities playing. > > It’s like Lebron scoring 100 on a high school team and calling basketball unbalanced. Yup, I’m aware of that. Even the more experienced players might not have known the best ways to counter tanks. The flipside though, we didn’t see the tanks performing at their finest either. What happens when you put a well coordinated squad instead of some celebs in one of those heavy tanks? Some upgrades for the tanks we didn’t see yet? Who knows. ---
**Author:** ![B3ANTOWN\_B3A5T](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/b3antown_b3a5t/32/101262_2.png) [@B3ANTOWN\_B3A5T](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/B3ANTOWN_B3A5T)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 3:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-vehicles-look-incredibly-cumbersome/102083/11 "2016-06-15T03:19:00Z")
> [@Ameeba37](#): > > > [@B3ANTOWN\_\_B3A5T](#): > > > > > [@Ameeba37](#): > > > > > > WW1 tanks were super cumbersome. In BF1 they are already a lot more mobile than in reality. > > > Firepower? One guy in the stream went 32-0 in a tank, they surely pack a punch. > > > > Take that with a grain of salt though. There were so many deer in headlights celebrities playing. > > > > It’s like Lebron scoring 100 on a high school team and calling basketball unbalanced. > > Yup, I’m aware of that. Even the more experienced players might not have known the best ways to counter tanks. > > The flipside though, we didn’t see the tanks performing at their finest either. What happens when you put a well coordinated squad instead of some celebs in one of those heavy tanks? > Some upgrades for the tanks we didn’t see yet? Who knows. Good point. Even a pro could be lost when experiencing a new game with new mechanics and counters, some of which might not even have been available yet (dynamite I’m looking at you). On the subject of upgrades, my gut feeling is that we won’t be getting any. For one the technology just wasnt there. If you look at the medium tank, the driver doesn’t even appear to get a cannon, just a beefy machine gun turret. Adding tons of customization might ruin the balance Dice has implemented with the differing tank designs. ---
**Author:** ![Ameeba37](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ameeba37/32/101194_2.png) [@Ameeba37](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Ameeba37)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 3:45am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-vehicles-look-incredibly-cumbersome/102083/12 "2016-06-15T03:45:00Z")
> [@B3ANTOWN\_\_B3A5T](#): > > On the subject of upgrades, my gut feeling is that we won’t be getting any. For one the technology just wasnt there. If you look at the medium tank, the driver doesn’t even appear to get a cannon, just a beefy machine gun turret. Adding tons of customization might ruin the balance Dice has implemented with the differing tank designs. I imagine there will be vehicle customization of some sort, that’s just what most people expect even from a WW1 game. Some things that come to my mind could be pretty basic, LMG or HMG? Maybe some choices between armor thickness and better engine for more mobility? Some sort of protected tracks to make it harder to immobilize the tank? The heavy tank at least seems to be pretty interesting to me. High Explosive or Armor Piercing for the main cannon? From the gameplay I’ve seen the secondary seems to be similar to canister shell from BF3/BF4. Maybe you could have a machine gun instead of that? In its inventory it also had what looked like AT mines, dunno what else that slot could have. The 4th one was mustard gas. The tank left a big cloud of gas behind it, looks pretty interesting to me. I’m not a game dev by any means, I’m sure the people at DICE have something a lot better than that listed above waiting for us. ---
**Author:** ![redzuluzulu0096](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@redzuluzulu0096](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/redzuluzulu0096)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 4:18am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-vehicles-look-incredibly-cumbersome/102083/13 "2016-06-15T04:18:00Z")
> [@Loqtrall](#): > > > [@GhostOwI](#): > > > > > [@B3ANTOWN\_\_B3A5T](#): > > > > > > Take that with a grain of salt though. There were so many deer in headlights celebrities playing. > > > > This. Some of these celebrities probably never even played a video game before. Probably didn’t know how to even shoot their guns much less know how to use cover against vehicles. > > > > I rather see more gameplay and technical aspects of the game than see rappers smoking blunts. was EA thinking? > > There were also “pro” players expressing how powerful the tanks were as well, as well as a moderator for this forum right up this very page. > > They weren’t just overpowered in the sense that maybe TEN out of 64 people were clueless celebs that didn’t know what they were doing. Watch Russianbadger’s footage. He did pretty good against tanks with the anti-tank bipod rifle and grenades. I didn’t see many others using that bipod rifle in the footage I’ve seen, but it seems to be pretty effective. ---
**Author:** ![bananahead81](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bananahead81/32/101282_2.png) [@bananahead81](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bananahead81)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 4:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-vehicles-look-incredibly-cumbersome/102083/14 "2016-06-15T04:24:00Z")
The planes looked just as expected. Look like so much fun, can’t wait! ---
**Author:** ![SavedByToast](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/savedbytoast/32/103372_2.png) [@SavedByToast](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SavedByToast)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 4:30am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-vehicles-look-incredibly-cumbersome/102083/15 "2016-06-15T04:30:00Z")
> [@bananahead81](#): > > The planes looked just as expected. Look like so much fun, can’t wait! The infantry combat looks pretty fun to me. But the vehicle combat looks so slow paced and awkward. I have a bad feeling it is going to be like swbf vehicle handling. ---
**Author:** ![Keif68](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/keif68/32/100928_2.png) [@Keif68](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Keif68)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 4:30am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-vehicles-look-incredibly-cumbersome/102083/16 "2016-06-15T04:30:00Z")
> [@bananahead81](#): > > The planes looked just as expected. Look like so much fun, can’t wait! I’m so excited!!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ameeba37](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ameeba37/32/101194_2.png) [@Ameeba37](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Ameeba37)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 4:39am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-vehicles-look-incredibly-cumbersome/102083/17 "2016-06-15T04:39:00Z")
> [@GhostOwI](#): > > > [@bananahead81](#): > > > > The planes looked just as expected. Look like so much fun, can’t wait! > > I have a bad feeling it is going to be like swbf vehicle handling. The people in the stream played on PC, and it’s confirmed that the flight mechanics won’t be like in SWBF. I don’t believe they’d make separate flight mechanics for consoles. ---
**Author:** ![bananahead81](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bananahead81/32/101282_2.png) [@bananahead81](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bananahead81)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 4:43am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-vehicles-look-incredibly-cumbersome/102083/18 "2016-06-15T04:43:00Z")
> [@GhostOwI](#): > > > [@bananahead81](#): > > > > The planes looked just as expected. Look like so much fun, can’t wait! > > The infantry combat looks pretty fun to me. But the vehicle combat looks so slow paced and awkward. I have a bad feeling it is going to be like swbf vehicle handling. I’m sure DICE have looked at feedback from sw and hardline. They won’t risk ruining bf4, bf is their baby! ---
**Author:** ![SavedByToast](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/savedbytoast/32/103372_2.png) [@SavedByToast](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SavedByToast)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 4:45am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-vehicles-look-incredibly-cumbersome/102083/19 "2016-06-15T04:45:00Z")
> [@Ameeba37](#): > > The people in the stream played on PC, and it’s confirmed that the flight mechanics won’t be like in SWBF. I don’t believe they’d make separate flight mechanics for consoles. I am hoping for the best. Still not sold on the ww1 theme. Read rumors stating there will be a modern BF title in 2017. I might hold out until then unless BF1 somehow manages to wow me on the beta. People are still playing BF3, I am not too worried about BF4 making through to 2017. ---
**Author:** ![bananahead81](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bananahead81/32/101282_2.png) [@bananahead81](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bananahead81)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 4:49am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-vehicles-look-incredibly-cumbersome/102083/20 "2016-06-15T04:49:00Z")
@GhostOwI for the price of the game I don’t see why you would consider missing it out? I’m assuming you’re a hardcore bf fan? Fairly sure it can’t be that bad you won’t get your 50 pounds worth of entertainment out of it. [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-vehicles-look-incredibly-cumbersome/102083.md?page=2)