# Is It Time For Battlefield To Step Up Into Blood/Guts/Grit/Dismemberment

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 8, 2016, 4:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-time-for-battlefield-to-step-up-into-blood-guts-grit-dismemberment/101745 "2016-06-08T16:41:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![crakface](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crakface/32/101572_2.png) [@crakface](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/crakface)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 4:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-time-for-battlefield-to-step-up-into-blood-guts-grit-dismemberment/101745/1 "2016-06-08T16:41:00Z")

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Is it time for Dice to have more realistic effects of the weapons of war. Limbs coming off, blood, body destruction. With visceral in their camp you would think maybe this was the direction they were going in.

Is the community ready for that or are going to settle for rag doll physics cartwheels.

Would it enhance your gameplay experience

Can consoles handle it?

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**Author:** ![JuveOG1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/eada6e/32.png) [@JuveOG1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JuveOG1105)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 4:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-time-for-battlefield-to-step-up-into-blood-guts-grit-dismemberment/101745/2 "2016-06-08T16:51:00Z")

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All set I’m fine with the rag doll effects. There’s no need for gore and what not I personally do not want the game to be realistic and we dont need the gore. If anything it’s going to make it way to complicated for the devs.

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**Author:** ![crakface](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crakface/32/101572_2.png) [@crakface](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/crakface)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 4:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-time-for-battlefield-to-step-up-into-blood-guts-grit-dismemberment/101745/3 "2016-06-08T16:53:00Z")

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> [@JuveOG1105](#):
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> All set I’m fine with the rag doll effects. There’s no need for gore and what not I personally do not want the game to be realistic and we dont need the gore. If anything it’s going to make it way to complicated for the devs.

How does it make it to complicated for devs?

Is that true or do you just not like the idea

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**Author:** ![Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lordmang4)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 4:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-time-for-battlefield-to-step-up-into-blood-guts-grit-dismemberment/101745/4 "2016-06-08T16:56:00Z")

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I would personally like to see more gore and rag-doll graphics.  
Anything really that enhances the immersiveness of a game.  
For example, I think SWBF does well in this regard (game immersiveness).

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**Author:** ![JuveOG1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/eada6e/32.png) [@JuveOG1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JuveOG1105)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 4:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-time-for-battlefield-to-step-up-into-blood-guts-grit-dismemberment/101745/5 "2016-06-08T16:58:00Z")

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> [@crakface](#):
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> > [@JuveOG1105](#):
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> > All set I’m fine with the rag doll effects. There’s no need for gore and what not I personally do not want the game to be realistic and we dont need the gore. If anything it’s going to make it way to complicated for the devs.
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> How does it make it to complicated for devs?
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> Is that true or do you just not like the idea

Probably is I mean think about it that’s a lot of work with 64 players and how many players would be loosing a limb or being blown to little bits at once during a match? I feel games would lag because of it. Plus the revive system would need a complete overhaul because of it. That’s just my opinion I’m not trying to bash yours.

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**Author:** ![mkk555](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@mkk555](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mkk555)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-time-for-battlefield-to-step-up-into-blood-guts-grit-dismemberment/101745/6 "2016-06-08T16:59:00Z")

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Oh man gore would be sweet. I enjoyed World at War’s limbs and blood. They also had a graphic content filter as well that all players were made aware of in the first boot of the game.

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**Author:** ![GnomeScat](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/gnomescat/32/102080_2.png) [@GnomeScat](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GnomeScat)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-time-for-battlefield-to-step-up-into-blood-guts-grit-dismemberment/101745/7 "2016-06-08T17:08:00Z")

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I don’t think I would want to be revived after both my legs have been blown off. It’s a cool concept for campaign maybe, but it wouldn’t mesh well with the multiplayer’s game design.

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**Author:** ![SgtBreastCannon](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sgtbreastcannon/32/103433_2.png) [@SgtBreastCannon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SgtBreastCannon)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-time-for-battlefield-to-step-up-into-blood-guts-grit-dismemberment/101745/8 "2016-06-08T17:08:00Z")

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> [@crakface](#):
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> Is it time for Dice to have more realistic effects of the weapons of war. Limbs coming off, blood, body destruction. With visceral in their camp you would think maybe this was the direction they were going in.
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> Is the community ready for that or are going to settle for rag doll physics cartwheels.
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> Would it enhance your gameplay experience
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> Can consoles handle it?

Absolutely not. If I wanted a realistic experience I’d go play Red Orchestra 2.

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**Author:** ![bananahead81](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bananahead81/32/101282_2.png) [@bananahead81](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bananahead81)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-time-for-battlefield-to-step-up-into-blood-guts-grit-dismemberment/101745/9 "2016-06-08T17:22:00Z")

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Hey crakface!

No. Absolutely no no no. Battlefield has the benefit of actually being a great series without stooping to those levels with cheap (and I mean REALLY cheap) tactics which will only really impress 13 year olds. I don’t play the game to see horror, I play it as an arcade game. The odd soldier flying through the air which we currently have is enough thanks (and pretty amusing at times)

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**Author:** ![Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lordmang4)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-time-for-battlefield-to-step-up-into-blood-guts-grit-dismemberment/101745/10 "2016-06-08T17:25:00Z")

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I’m certainly not 13 but still enjoy seeing gore, blood splash, ragdoll effects in FPS games.  
What I don’t like seeing is wonky physics which sends tanks and LAVs into a low altitude orbit (e.g. BF4).

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**Author:** ![ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thepoolshark/32/103801_2.png) [@ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThePoolshark)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-time-for-battlefield-to-step-up-into-blood-guts-grit-dismemberment/101745/11 "2016-06-08T17:31:00Z")

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> [@SgtBreastCannon](#):
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> > [@crakface](#):
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> > Is it time for Dice to have more realistic effects of the weapons of war. Limbs coming off, blood, body destruction. With visceral in their camp you would think maybe this was the direction they were going in.
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> > Is the community ready for that or are going to settle for rag doll physics cartwheels.
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> > Would it enhance your gameplay experience
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> > Can consoles handle it?
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> Absolutely not. If I wanted a realistic experience I’d go play Red Orchestra 2.

This

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**Author:** ![crakface](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crakface/32/101572_2.png) [@crakface](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/crakface)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-time-for-battlefield-to-step-up-into-blood-guts-grit-dismemberment/101745/12 "2016-06-08T17:44:00Z")

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> [@bananahead81](#):
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> Hey crakface!
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> No. Absolutely no no no. Battlefield has the benefit of actually being a great series without stooping to those levels with cheap (and I mean REALLY cheap) tactics which will only really impress 13 year olds. I don’t play the game to see horror, I play it as an arcade game. The odd soldier flying through the air which we currently have is enough thanks (and pretty amusing at times)

Battlefield doesn’t tout itself as an arcade shooter though. It’s already rated M for mature but why, because soldiers scream like women when killed or use profanity when killing someone?

They should add gore to the game but allow players to create servers to turn it off for people like you

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**Author:** ![VenomRTX](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/venomrtx/32/103986_2.png) [@VenomRTX](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VenomRTX)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-time-for-battlefield-to-step-up-into-blood-guts-grit-dismemberment/101745/13 "2016-06-08T17:50:00Z")

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Why so? What good would it bring? In which way would it improve gameplay?

See, if you implement lingering damage, you start to impair people’s ability to play the game. I can only imagine how not being able to aim right in a MP shooter because you got hit in the arm would be frustrating. Considering that in a normal game there’s bullets flying everywhere, chances are we’d be playing in a near constant state of handicap. Hardly what I’d call fun.

Losing limbs, as @GnomeScat pointed out, render the revive mechanic pointless. Gore can make people really uncomfortable. I doubt the real horrors of war make up for an interesting, long lasting gaming experience.

BF has never been about that. It has never, in any point of history, been an accurate depiction of a real battle. I don’t think the franchise stands to gain anything by moving in that direction, quite the contrary. It’ll cease to be the game a lot of people want to play.

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**Author:** ![crakface](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crakface/32/101572_2.png) [@crakface](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/crakface)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-time-for-battlefield-to-step-up-into-blood-guts-grit-dismemberment/101745/14 "2016-06-08T17:51:00Z")

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> [@GnomeScat](#):
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> I don’t think I would want to be revived after both my legs have been blown off. It’s a cool concept for campaign maybe, but it wouldn’t mesh well with the multiplayer’s game design.

They could make it work with a little imagination

Say you got killed and were revived then you were killed again  
They could then randomize an effect on the body in scenarios like this where a limb would come off the head would explode or nothing ato all.

If a tank she’ll hits you direct DOOOOOOOOOM, no recovery and body decimated. Headshots from high powered sniper. Doom no recovery and animated body damage.

You wouldn’t want this?

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**Author:** ![JuveOG1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/eada6e/32.png) [@JuveOG1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JuveOG1105)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-time-for-battlefield-to-step-up-into-blood-guts-grit-dismemberment/101745/15 "2016-06-08T17:51:00Z")

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> [@crakface](#):
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> > [@bananahead81](#):
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> > Hey crakface!
> > 
> > No. Absolutely no no no. Battlefield has the benefit of actually being a great series without stooping to those levels with cheap (and I mean REALLY cheap) tactics which will only really impress 13 year olds. I don’t play the game to see horror, I play it as an arcade game. The odd soldier flying through the air which we currently have is enough thanks (and pretty amusing at times)
> 
> Battlefield doesn’t tout itself as an arcade shooter though. It’s already rated M for mature but why, because soldiers scream like women when killed or use profanity when killing someone?
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> They should add gore to the game but allow players to create servers to turn it off for people like you

But it is mostly an arcade shooter whether they say it themselves or not and it’s rated M because of what you said profanity and killing.

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**Author:** ![bananahead81](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bananahead81/32/101282_2.png) [@bananahead81](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bananahead81)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-time-for-battlefield-to-step-up-into-blood-guts-grit-dismemberment/101745/16 "2016-06-08T17:53:00Z")

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> [@Lordmang4](#):
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> What I don’t like seeing is wonky physics which sends tanks and LAVs into a low altitude orbit (e.g. BF4).

That’s not really comparable to the proposal as it is an unintended glitch.

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**Author:** ![crakface](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crakface/32/101572_2.png) [@crakface](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/crakface)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-time-for-battlefield-to-step-up-into-blood-guts-grit-dismemberment/101745/17 "2016-06-08T17:56:00Z")

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> [@JuveOG1105](#):
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> > [@crakface](#):
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> > > [@bananahead81](#):
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> > > Hey crakface!
> > > 
> > > No. Absolutely no no no. Battlefield has the benefit of actually being a great series without stooping to those levels with cheap (and I mean REALLY cheap) tactics which will only really impress 13 year olds. I don’t play the game to see horror, I play it as an arcade game. The odd soldier flying through the air which we currently have is enough thanks (and pretty amusing at times)
> > 
> > Battlefield doesn’t tout itself as an arcade shooter though. It’s already rated M for mature but why, because soldiers scream like women when killed or use profanity when killing someone?
> > 
> > They should add gore to the game but allow players to create servers to turn it off for people like you
> 
> But it is mostly an arcade shooter whether they say it themselves or not and it’s rated M because of what you said profanity and killing.

You don’t know what you’re missing and wouldn’t be able to go back to rag doll cartwheels if implemented

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**Author:** ![Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lordmang4)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-time-for-battlefield-to-step-up-into-blood-guts-grit-dismemberment/101745/18 "2016-06-08T17:56:00Z")

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When an element that starts out as an unintended glitch is not patched out 2+ yrs after a game has been released, there’s a strong possibility that the aforementioned element is now regarded as an in-game “attraction” by the devs or game designers.  
An example of this is the “reverse-thrust flight maneuver” of ESF aircraft in Planetside 2.  
So I view wonky physics in BF4 as comparable to the OP’s proposal.

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**Author:** ![Bertominus\_Rex](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/71c47a/32.png) [@Bertominus\_Rex](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Bertominus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-time-for-battlefield-to-step-up-into-blood-guts-grit-dismemberment/101745/19 "2016-06-08T17:57:00Z")

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> [@crakface](#):
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> > [@bananahead81](#):
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> > Hey crakface!
> > 
> > No. Absolutely no no no. Battlefield has the benefit of actually being a great series without stooping to those levels with cheap (and I mean REALLY cheap) tactics which will only really impress 13 year olds. I don’t play the game to see horror, I play it as an arcade game. The odd soldier flying through the air which we currently have is enough thanks (and pretty amusing at times)
> 
> Battlefield doesn’t tout itself as an arcade shooter though. It’s already rated M for mature but why, because soldiers scream like women when killed or use profanity when killing someone?
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> They should add gore to the game but allow players to create servers to turn it off for people like you

Battlefield doesn’t need to advertise itself as an arcade shooter to be one. It’s always been well within the arcade shooter genre.

I’m not against gore, but it would have to be an option that has to be off by default if anything. Battlefield has always been silly… it’s never been gritty.

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**Author:** ![JuveOG1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/eada6e/32.png) [@JuveOG1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JuveOG1105)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 6:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-it-time-for-battlefield-to-step-up-into-blood-guts-grit-dismemberment/101745/20 "2016-06-08T18:05:00Z")

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> [@crakface](#):
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> > [@JuveOG1105](#):
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> > > [@crakface](#):
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> > > > [@bananahead81](#):
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> > > > Hey crakface!
> > > > 
> > > > No. Absolutely no no no. Battlefield has the benefit of actually being a great series without stooping to those levels with cheap (and I mean REALLY cheap) tactics which will only really impress 13 year olds. I don’t play the game to see horror, I play it as an arcade game. The odd soldier flying through the air which we currently have is enough thanks (and pretty amusing at times)
> > > 
> > > Battlefield doesn’t tout itself as an arcade shooter though. It’s already rated M for mature but why, because soldiers scream like women when killed or use profanity when killing someone?
> > > 
> > > They should add gore to the game but allow players to create servers to turn it off for people like you
> > 
> > But it is mostly an arcade shooter whether they say it themselves or not and it’s rated M because of what you said profanity and killing.
> 
> You don’t know what you’re missing and wouldn’t be able to go back to rag doll cartwheels if implemented

How do you know that? I’ve played tons of games that have gore. I just feel it complicates things too much.

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