Is there something off about the game since the DLC? Im getting very frustrated....

I totally agree, ever since the update and DLC the game runs very laggy and I have also been hit literally once by a Lewis and killed. Also I have been getting seriously spawn killed a lot since this update where before I may get spawn killed once or twice in a three hour span, today I was spawn killed 10 times in four hours and I’m spawning on objectives and team mates. Also the submachine guns are basically crap now, I’ve hit people today at close to medium range with the Hellreigel and MP18 at least 5 or 6 times and they lived!! Also hit detection is completely broken now, had sites right on a guy at medium range with GW95 shot three times and every shot missed him when he took up the entire sight. Not feeling this update at all, I’m not a bad player and I love this game but I’m a bit disappointed in how they are pandering to people crying about nerfing this and buffing that. As for the grenade spam fix…LMAO are you kidding me, I actually didn’t notice it being a problem before but now its a joke.

HEY XBOX PEOPLE. There’s definitely a few different things. I think there are a lot of better players on with the new maps just because they are the ones that are really into the game and willing to pay for premium.. also these grenades regenerating makes a huge difference. A couple weapons are different and I think people are finally realizing they need to play with a team to do well. If you guys wanted to do better and have more wins you should join a clan you’re welcome to check out ours we always play The Objective and we care about our teammates and winning more than our own KD. We have a lot of fun and make a lot of friends we have members from all over the world there’s always someone on to play with we have casual squads as well as competitive squads. No weird requirements or trials just apply at our website. www.tactgaming.net if you are on Xbox. Feel free to add me and message with any questions. RK BYRDMAN

Im glad you were able to improve things with the new router. But the laggy menus are definitely not a network issues, its a game issue. My internet is 50Mb up/down and they are super laggy for me. Almost to the point that its a joke. If you hit the menu button in game you are going to die because the thing just freezes for 10 seconds. It shouldnt even be contacting the server at that point, its just bringing up a menu of thing to choose from. That needs to be fixed.

Record clips of your problems and post them in the other thread.

Agreed, when an enemy team decided to lock down an entrance or area in the fort, there is no getting through and those pushes often last for more than 37 seconds, or whatever the grenade respawn timer is. So it stands to reason that 4 or 5 guys, especially if assault with anti tank grenades, can totally SPAM an area in an almost continuous fashion. I have noticed though that you take a significant amount LESS of explosive damage if you are laying down vs. standing up. The spawn killing does suck as well. On verdun Heights Operations, second sector if you spawn in on A (the church) it puts you on the back side of the hill directly in the line of fire from Snipers. I’ve learned to immediately start running and go prone in a bomb hole on the ground. Spawning in on squad mates is always risky if you are not mic’d up with them. Seriously, log into your router and check these settings out:

  1. MTU size. If its off you could be losing packets to and from the server. Mine is set to 1472. Here’s how you can determine the right setting.
    Go to PC and type CMD in the search programs under the start menu
    Pull up command prompt and type this… ping google.com -f -l 1400…Youll get a response in ms. the idea is to change the last number of 1400 and go up in increments of 10
    until you start losing packets. At that point go down in increments of 2 until you are at the highest you can go without packet loss.
  2. QoS- these vary from router to router but this is where you assign priority to certian ip addresses or specific devices regarding bandwidth. I had mine all screwed up. When my
    my wife would start watching Netflix while I was playing its like the crap switch was turned on. This will give highest priority to your xbox which shouldn’t affect Netflix at all.
  3. Port Forwarding- Assign your xbox a static internal IP address or reserve an IP address in the router for it. Then Forward all the necessary ports for Xbox live and BF1. There
    several tutorials floating around the web about how to do this
  4. Make sure xbox is running a wired connection to router
  5. Turn on UPnP
  6. Play games with the Netgraph on and watch the Extra Offest numbers. If these get above 20-30 while in game (not spawn menu) you are not seeing what is actually going on in the server. Mine were running between 300 and 500 ms. until I fixed the settings in the router. MTU seemed to be a big one. No wonder I couldn’t hit anyone.

I did all of these yesterday and played last night and I swear it was like playing a different game. Last night I dropped 3 enemies with a single magazine from the Ribeyerolles and one pistol shot…it used to take almost a full mag for me to down a guy and the second or third guy would have killed me. I still cant figure out why it seemed so worse after the DLC…maybe its like they have said, a lot better players playing which makes it more prominent?? I’ll also say I’m FAR from a networking expert and there may be some guys out there who know a lot more about this than i do. I don’t think I have said anything that will cause problems but maybe consult a few sources before making these changes. This is simply what I did and it seemed to work for me.

I like how this was a post about the game running a bit off and someone turns it into a damn clan pitch. lol

Just out of curiosity, why did you set your MTU to 1472? If that’s the point at which you no longer lost packets you forgot to add 28 to that number to account for the packet header. So your MTU should actually be the max setting of 1500. If your ISP is cable then your MTU shouldn’t be less than 1500 unless your ISP is restricting it for some reason.

Also, before you run your ping test to determine optimal MTU, you should connect your computer directly to the cable modem to make sure your router isn’t messing with anything.

On another note, I wouldn’t use port forwarding and Upnp together. Only one is necessary because they are redundant and some routers don’t handle this well. Personally I prefer to put my Xbox in DMZ so that all ports are open and I don’t have to worry about all the port forwarding stuff. It just seems more reliable.

Also keep in mind, MTU only affects TCP packets. The in-game networking such as hit detection is most definitely going to be UDP. Changing MTU won’t have any affect on that. Xbox One uses IPV4 to IPV6 tunneling so everything fits in a 1480 unit. But, this should only be when connecting through live directly. When you connect to a game server from within BF1 you’re not routing through Xbox Live service - just using the service in conjunction with EA servers for verification (game license, Xbox gold verification) before you can connect online. After that you’ll have some TCP connections (MTU-related) for the master server list, news, in-game store, and possibly character statistics page, etc - but when connecting to a game server and playing - the packets that affect actual gameplay are UDP.

was hoping someone who was more knowledgeable about networking would come along and set me straight…Thanks for the input. I did not know that about DMZ. I will make these changes asap.

No problem. Essentially all three options accomplish the same goal which is to achieve an open NAT. The difference is, for port forwarding you select which ports to open, UPnP automatically opens ports as needed but isn’t reliable with some routers, and DMZ opens all ports. DMZ to me is the best option because you don’t have to be concerned with what ports to open for different games and you can ensure you’ll always have the right ports open.

Thank you for explaining this…I can see why choosing the DMZ seems like the best option and why also that running multiple things trying to do the same thing might “confuse” the router and cause problems. i have turned off any Port Forwarding, UPnP and set my xbox in the DMZ. It was instantly better when I made these changes over doing nothing but I have also noticed some weird chat issues and other small problems. Overall the game plays much better lately

So I have managed to record a few clips, Ive searched for a thread on how to upload them but not having any luck…can you give a quick explanation on how to do this? thanks

@sbvaughn88

One easy way is just to use One drive. Download the app on your Xbox and your phone or computer. Set up your account, same as Xbox account.

Record a clip then share it to One drive and then share it further to maybe this forum. Looks like this.

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AuJbbl6pkIS2iUmEj7p9JcbK-63v

I’ve been having serious issues with lag for about a week now. Everything on my end appears to be fine. My NAT type is open. My speeds on speedtest.net and xbox both are almost always 93/93. My in game ping usually averages 25-30. Packet loss is 0%. Extra offset usually averages 35-45. But the game looks like a slideshow. I skip around everywhere. I have 0 problems with hit detection though. My shots register fine just like they always have. The game just skips like crazy!!

Try a re-install?

Noticed today the game was rubber banding really bad, then it would play fine, had a bunch of deaths when on my screen I was around a corner and was dead, also shot a guy point blank with a tank cannon and got a hit marker and he scrambled off lol, Checked all my settings on my net and everything was up and running just fine. Kinda annoying as it seems to be happening a lot more after the DLC update.

You can usually tell how your game is going to go based off the hit detection of your shots. In games that I know the hit detection is poor for me, then I leave the server after the game. Sometimes things will be fine for several games and then total garbage. When you start getting shot behind walls and buildings, then it is time to change the server.

Right on man.. 45 year old gamer here. Right with you… I play pretty well for the amount of time I get to play.. there’s nothing wrong with your stats… My accuracy is atrocious because like you, I just spam fire through smoke and gas to keep heads down.. I finish top 10 most games I play.. and I’m cool with that… WhataFrick is my GT… Look me up sometime… I’ll play with ya..

This.

Maruader71 I’d love to play…I’ll try to find you next time I get on…what region do you play in? I’m in North Georgia so I play in US East mainly.