# Is this game bent towards casual? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 15, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-this-game-bent-towards-casual/106853 "2019-04-15T23:22:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MBT\_Layzan](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mbt_layzan/32/102770_2.png) [@MBT\_Layzan](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MBT_Layzan)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-this-game-bent-towards-casual/106853/1 "2019-04-15T23:22:00Z")
I think it is, and are we happy about that? ---
**Author:** ![parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/parkingbrake)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2019, 11:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-this-game-bent-towards-casual/106853/2 "2019-04-15T23:39:00Z")
Which check would you rather have deposited to your bank account, a dollar for every “casual” BFV player, or a dollar for each “competitive” player? Given the obvious nature of the answer, why would you expect EA to not feel exactly the same? ---
**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2019, 11:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-this-game-bent-towards-casual/106853/3 "2019-04-15T23:46:00Z")
Battlefield has always been catered to the “casual” gamer. There isn’t much in terms of competitive gameplay in the BF series, 3 seems decent enough to lean into the competitive area. BF1 had that incursions but I don’t think there are servers for it anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Rex\_Holez](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/rex_holez/32/106606_2.png) [@Rex\_Holez](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rex_Holez)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-this-game-bent-towards-casual/106853/4 "2019-04-16T00:05:00Z")
The last BF in the series that wasn’t geared towards casuals was 2142. ---
**Author:** ![Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/noodlesocks/32/101045_2.png) [@Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Noodlesocks)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 12:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-this-game-bent-towards-casual/106853/5 "2019-04-16T00:16:00Z")
Game is such a mish mash of design concepts that I’m not even sure if Dice Sweden knows the answer. ---
**Author:** ![Titan\_Awaken](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/titan_awaken/32/103849_2.png) [@Titan\_Awaken](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Titan_Awaken)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 12:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-this-game-bent-towards-casual/106853/6 "2019-04-16T00:28:00Z")
Is ‘Casual’ synonymous with ‘bad’ now? If so, why is it so stigmatised? Everyone and anyone is welcomed to play the game. I don’t care if you’re a 50 y.o battle-hardened hardcore vet or a 10 y.o casual skrub, just as long as you aren’t toxic. ---
**Author:** ![MBT\_Layzan](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mbt_layzan/32/102770_2.png) [@MBT\_Layzan](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MBT_Layzan)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 1:01am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-this-game-bent-towards-casual/106853/7 "2019-04-16T01:01:00Z")
I’m sorry I’m a bit I guess too many beers. Just ignore. ---
**Author:** ![sabootheshaman](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sabootheshaman/32/103347_2.png) [@sabootheshaman](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/sabootheshaman)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 1:18am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-this-game-bent-towards-casual/106853/8 "2019-04-16T01:18:00Z")
> [@Rex\_Holez](#): > > The last BF in the series that wasn’t geared towards casuals was 2142. Would kill for 2142 on frostbite. After the first few patches it was quite balanced yet could still be perceived as asymmetrical. Someone go get me my Voss ---
**Author:** ![Jayremie570](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jayremie570/32/102375_2.png) [@Jayremie570](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jayremie570)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 1:23am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-this-game-bent-towards-casual/106853/9 "2019-04-16T01:23:00Z")
As has been said, all games are geared toward casuals. It’s literally a video game whereby one assumes control of little army men and plays war. ---
**Author:** ![MBT\_Layzan](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mbt_layzan/32/102770_2.png) [@MBT\_Layzan](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MBT_Layzan)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 2:13am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-this-game-bent-towards-casual/106853/10 "2019-04-16T02:13:00Z")
> [@sabootheshaman](#): > > > [@Rex\_Holez](#): > > > > The last BF in the series that wasn’t geared towards casuals was 2142. > > Would kill for 2142 on frostbite. After the first few patches it was quite balanced yet could still be perceived as asymmetrical. Someone go get me my Voss I’d really really love that too. ---
**Author:** ![Rex\_Holez](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/rex_holez/32/106606_2.png) [@Rex\_Holez](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rex_Holez)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 2:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-this-game-bent-towards-casual/106853/11 "2019-04-16T02:26:00Z")
> [@sabootheshaman](#): > > > [@Rex\_Holez](#): > > > > [»] > > The last BF in the series that wasn’t geared towards casuals was 2142. > > Would kill for 2142 on frostbite. After the first few patches it was quite balanced yet could still be perceived as asymmetrical. Someone go get me my Voss Oh me too, had so much fun in 2142. The maps, the weapons, the squad play. Amazing game that hasn’t been touched by any BF since. ---
**Author:** ![UnearthedCO](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/cab0a1/32.png) [@UnearthedCO](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/UnearthedCO)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 4:00am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-this-game-bent-towards-casual/106853/12 "2019-04-16T04:00:00Z")
> [@LOLGotYerTags](#): > > Battlefield has always been catered to the “casual” gamer. > > There isn’t much in terms of competitive gameplay in the BF series, 3 seems decent enough to lean into the competitive area. > > BF1 had that incursions but I don’t think there are servers for it anymore. COD caters to the casual gamer not BF. ---
**Author:** ![full951](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/full951/32/102018_2.png) [@full951](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/full951)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 4:04am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-this-game-bent-towards-casual/106853/13 "2019-04-16T04:04:00Z")
Of course it is. ---
**Author:** ![oX\_oBIGBOSS-FoX](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ox_obigboss-fox/32/107039_2.png) [@oX\_oBIGBOSS-FoX](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/oX_oBIGBOSS-FoX)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 4:38am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-this-game-bent-towards-casual/106853/14 "2019-04-16T04:38:00Z")
No. This game is designed by and for the competitive mindset. Just take a look at the upcoming 5v5 competitive mode with exclusive maps, gadgets, soldier skins. However, aren’t we all causal players who are looking for more 64p maps with more authentic WWII atmosphere? ---
**Author:** ![SirSpectacle](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@SirSpectacle](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SirSpectacle)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 5:08am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-this-game-bent-towards-casual/106853/15 "2019-04-16T05:08:00Z")
Define “casual” ---
**Author:** ![olavafar](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/olavafar/32/101046_2.png) [@olavafar](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/olavafar)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 5:42am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-this-game-bent-towards-casual/106853/16 "2019-04-16T05:42:00Z")
Yes it is and yes most players are happy about that including me. Doing something ‘non casual’ means putting in so much time and effort that it becomes a job. I already have one. ---
**Author:** ![Vycinas2](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/vycinas2/32/101881_2.png) [@Vycinas2](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Vycinas2)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 6:22am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-this-game-bent-towards-casual/106853/17 "2019-04-16T06:22:00Z")
> [@UnearthedCO](#): > > LOLGotYerTags said: > Battlefield has always been catered to the “casual” gamer. > > There isn’t much in terms of competitive gameplay in the BF series, 3 seems decent enough to lean into the competitive area. > > BF1 had that incursions but I don’t think there are servers for it anymore. > > COD caters to the casual gamer not BF. So does BF. You can make it competitive with leagues and certain rules but the whole core is built for casuals. End of story. ---
**Author:** ![SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sirbobdk/32/103491_2.png) [@SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SirBobdk)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 6:51am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-this-game-bent-towards-casual/106853/18 "2019-04-16T06:51:00Z")
BFV is casuel and so have all BF games been. BFV is not different A game with 64 players will always be casuel. Dice have tried several times to make it competitive, but it have never really worked and has not reach the competitive scene. Although Dice implements 5x5 it does not make it competitive. It will still be casuals playing a competitive mod. It requires a lot more. Since BF don’t have rental servers or a competition scene, it will remain casual. ---
**Author:** ![X\_Sunslayer\_X](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/278dde/32.png) [@X\_Sunslayer\_X](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/X_Sunslayer_X)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 7:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-this-game-bent-towards-casual/106853/19 "2019-04-16T07:28:00Z")
BFV is imo for no one since almost the entire community has some serious gripes with the game. “casuals” find the TTK too fast or other flaws in this unfinished game “core”-fans or whatever you want to call them find the animations to be too infringing or general balance being worse then its ever been the list is endless and support for BFV will drop faster then the bombs in WW2 did ---
**Author:** ![SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sirbobdk/32/103491_2.png) [@SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SirBobdk)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 8:11am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-this-game-bent-towards-casual/106853/20 "2019-04-16T08:11:00Z")
> [@X\_Sunslayer\_X](#): > > BFV is imo for no one since almost the entire community has some serious gripes with the game. > “casuals” find the TTK too fast or other flaws in this unfinished game > “core”-fans or whatever you want to call them find the animations to be too infringing or general balance being worse then its ever been > the list is endless and support for BFV will drop faster then the bombs in WW2 did EA/Dice has made every imaginable mistake and is fighting a lost war imo. Once confidence is lost and the rumor is out in the street, there is rarely any way back. They may have come to the same conclusion when we look at the current road map. My guess would be that they put all ressources in the next BF and just enough ressources to keep BFV alive. But imo live service is now just an empty word from the past without any content. [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/is-this-game-bent-towards-casual/106853.md?page=2)