Erm. Have you ever played another BF? At least in BF1 you can almost always get a vehicle or choose a different path and just avoid those snipers.
Absolutely agree BF1 is a superb game. I’m using the term ‘Casual’ as it seems to be the main term for describing BF1. To be clear, I see no insult in that.
I’m not speaking in absolutes, of course there will be PC players who prefer BF1 just as there must be Console players that prefer BFV.
But in terms of appeasing the majority of players it’s been noted that the PC player base saw a more significant drop off during BF1 than was atypical for a Battlefield game, which could indicate that PC players on the whole prefer a different style of Battlefield.
Battlefield began on PC so I assume that the original formula is what people are craving, I never played these games so hopefully others here can better explain what that is.
While on Console BF1 absolutely flourished. I’d argue that if Dice had stuck more closely to this formula and treated V as more of a refined successor to BF1 then V would be just as much of a hit on console. With the customisation options added, possibly even more so. And I say this as a console player who up until patch 4.4 really enjoyed V.
BF1. Solid game. Way too casual, but sure, it was solid. If BFV had it’s together I would have put BF3 and BFV over BF1.
Here we go again, what is casual about it?
Sluggish movement, strong aim assist, lower ceiling on sensitivity settings, sweet spot mechanic, dorito spotting, short grenade fuse, bayonet charge.
So TOO fast movement, no need for aim assist because every gun is laser accurate and most have 3x scope without glint, insane fast TTK (which is worse ans easier than sweet spot), being able to be totally invisible (and no footsteps so also no audio) and camp like crazy, easy PIAT killing, V1/JB2 and artillery strikes, still bayonet charge like in BF V is NOT casual?
You just need to look at the score board at the end of the round or be in a squad with them to see how poorly some players are doing here. It’s definitely less casual. I’ve no idea how that would be a good thing though, it’s definitely less fun.
CHAMMOND1992 I went back to play BF1 on PC recently to see if I’ve been too hard on the game and I found the base game to be acceptable despite my long standing design objections and that my main point of contention was the players who absolutely refused to play their classes. I was requesting ammo in text and via commo rose for minutes and nobody, even with 3 supports next to me would throw a box down, I’d be downed waiting for res and none of the many medics near me were resing anyone despite being in a safe location. This is something that I’ve not experienced in any other BF game even after the end of the game’s development cycle. Sure there’s always been some people who didn’t play their classes in BF games but it was never as universal\systemic as I saw in BF1. It really makes me wonder if the BF1 players who are not playing their class are the COD refugees from COD AW who never “went native” when they started playing Battlefield. It seemed as if there were lone wolves everywhere too and few people actually stuck with their squad.
NLBartmaN personally I love the fast movement, it’s reminiscent of BF3 just a tad faster. I absolutely hated the launch BF4 movement when it was sluggish and slow and was quite happy when DICE made BF4’s movement closer to BF3. I like the BF5 weapon handling altough I prefer BF3’s minus the OP suppression mechanic but I agree on squad call ins. Those are too close to COD kill streaks for my taste and I think they should be reserved for a commander role which I really want added to BF5.
Movement is similar to BF3, so in terms of what’s been implemented before, so no, movement isn’t TOO fast.
Every gun isn’t laser accurate. Although I agree with your, “3x scope without glint” mantra.
TTK isn’t that much different from other titles (except for TTK 1.0 BF1). Saying it’s easier than a one shot kill with the sweet spot mechanic makes no sense.
Visibility and audio issues isn’t really an argument.
Camping existed in BF1.
PIAT has been nerfed, and rightfully so.
V1/Jb2 and artillery strike aren’t really annoying to me, especially artillery given how easy they can be avoided.
Bayonet charge isn’t nearly as rampant.
Now where did I say BFV wasn’t casual?
Bayonet charge is a cool feature in BF1 and tricky to pull off actually. It’s easy to side step and then you’re still stuck in a run while being shot in the back…lol
Glad to see we agree 
Too bad some people only talk about BF1 being casual …
BF1 was by far the most casual of them all. Hence why so many people who had BF4 stayed in BF4.
Right now BF V is the most casual of them all, that is why players go back to (stayed at) BF1, BF4 and BF HL …
Hate bf1 and still hate it to this day.
Way too many hours in that game.
Bf4 is more Casual then BF1. Spray N Pray gunplay, Lock on stuff for everything, Auto spotter, Thermo scopes, range finder, 50x scopes, Energy shield for Tanks and Auto Rotation was in that Game too.
So please Stop with BF4 more skillfull. Even BF3 had more noob Gimmicks with Thermo scopes, MAVs and so on. But BF3 had a way better gunplay then BFV and BF4.
Wish DICE would make the BF1 Conquest scoring system like all other titles, but then even more would go back to BF1.
I like casual, it’s fun. 
BFV is the most broken, not the most casual.
I can understand why some like bf1, I did like certain aspects too but a whole load of awful design choices were given birth to in that game that have now matured into abominations in this, like the god awful vehicle spawn system. I also did not like all the behemoths and elite kits.