# Keyboard and Mouse support for Console

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/keyboard-and-mouse-support-for-console/102467>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 21, 2016, 5:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/keyboard-and-mouse-support-for-console/102467 "2016-09-21T17:10:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![theguywhosninja](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/theguywhosninja/32/103782_2.png) [@theguywhosninja](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/theguywhosninja)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 9:58am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/keyboard-and-mouse-support-for-console/102467/21 "2016-10-05T09:58:00Z")

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To the OP; I do not believe BF1 will get KB&M support on console. Even when Project Scorpio comes out. There will most likely be performance updates, but to invest in adding mechanics for KB&M when they can make it a feature of the next Battlefield title is where my business mindset goes. Some may say they can take the mechanic from the PC. Well, yes, but they would still have to test, which is an investment of time. So unless we get really lucky and some of the developers are given that time. Dice/EA/Microsoft will most likely make it a selling point to get the Scorpio with the next battlefield title.(IMO)

To all the others talking about these 3rd party tools. Its great that you want to play different ways.

But I kind of agree with the quote below.

> [@Rancherlee](#):
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> not a fan of it, consoles are suppose to be a “level playing field”, I consider XIM4 and other devices as cheating on consoles. This is why I game with both a PC and an XB1. Leave the KB/M to PC and controllers to the console.

Also to the statement.

> [@MrRudeJude69](#):
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> So technically we are just getting left behind for not using them? Almost in category of scuf and elite controllers im my mind

Is true but not true. The thumb sticks are what have not been advanced in a couple years. PC players go to the Xbox controller because it has drivers that install/update automatically. (everyone like things easy)

Although I would prefer all of us to have the luxury of playing with Elite controlers.

So once we get Microsoft and Sony to help invest in better thumb stick technology, then (IMO) the playing field will start to get even and the gaming community become one.

Although at this point what is happening here with third party tools is the same thing that happens all the time, instead of the masses going to advocate for better tech. We spend our money on the most convenient immediate alternative tech.

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**Author:** ![Zombi3Warrior76](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/8dc957/32.png) [@Zombi3Warrior76](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Zombi3Warrior76)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 10:00am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/keyboard-and-mouse-support-for-console/102467/22 "2016-10-05T10:00:00Z")

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Look it up they did they “In couple months Keyboard & Mouse will be compatible”

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**Author:** ![theguywhosninja](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/theguywhosninja/32/103782_2.png) [@theguywhosninja](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/theguywhosninja)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 10:11am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/keyboard-and-mouse-support-for-console/102467/23 "2016-10-05T10:11:00Z")

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> [@Zombi3Warrior76](#):
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> Look it up they did they “In couple months Keyboard & Mouse will be compatible”

Look what up? care to share a link in your findings?

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**Author:** ![Zombi3Warrior76](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/8dc957/32.png) [@Zombi3Warrior76](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Zombi3Warrior76)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 10:17am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/keyboard-and-mouse-support-for-console/102467/24 "2016-10-05T10:17:00Z")

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[http://www.xblafans.com/xbox-one-get-keyboard-mouse-support-year-88122.html](http://www.xblafans.com/xbox-one-get-keyboard-mouse-support-year-88122.html)

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**Author:** ![Zombi3Warrior76](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/8dc957/32.png) [@Zombi3Warrior76](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Zombi3Warrior76)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 10:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/keyboard-and-mouse-support-for-console/102467/25 "2016-10-05T10:19:00Z")

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I have been thinking about buying Xim 4 just for bf1 since I went back and played bf4 on pc I felt more better then joystick

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**Author:** ![theguywhosninja](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/theguywhosninja/32/103782_2.png) [@theguywhosninja](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/theguywhosninja)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 10:27am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/keyboard-and-mouse-support-for-console/102467/26 "2016-10-05T10:27:00Z")

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That is talking about support for the console it self, there would still need to be implementation and testing on developer side to work for the game.

Quote from your site.  
**Naturally, nothing is set in stone yet, and not every game may support the additional inputs, but with Microsoft leading the way in regard to Play Anywhere, it can be expected for first-party games to at least offer this option.**

Although, good find.

This why I think it will not happen for BF1, but will most likely be in the next Battlefield title. DICE is not a first party to Microsoft, like Epic is.

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**Author:** ![TheRudeJudeTTV](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/therudejudettv/32/103813_2.png) [@TheRudeJudeTTV](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TheRudeJudeTTV)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 12:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/keyboard-and-mouse-support-for-console/102467/27 "2016-10-05T12:21:00Z")

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I am confused by this play anywhere, including gears of war. Are pc and xb1 playing each other or separate communities? Because if they are mixed, then obviously u r playing against mnk. I know in rocket league u have the choice to turn off playing against pc.

Also if the game is able to play on both like that, then obviously it has mnk support? It will be an interesting couple years. The next halo will be for both xbox and pc, so I believe scorpio will bridge everything. But as somebody else said, I dont think bf1 will see “official support”

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**Author:** ![V99999](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/v99999/32/103964_2.png) [@V99999](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/V99999)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 4:12am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/keyboard-and-mouse-support-for-console/102467/28 "2016-10-06T04:12:00Z")

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Itake a crutch for people who can’t aim with a controller adding mnk support would trash the fps markets on console because people would just play pc if it ever got to that point.

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**Author:** ![StingX71](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/stingx71/32/103620_2.png) [@StingX71](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/StingX71)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 10:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/keyboard-and-mouse-support-for-console/102467/29 "2016-10-07T22:28:00Z")

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> [@MAGNUM\_MU5TACHE](#):
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> > [@SH1GGLES](#):
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> > > [@MAGNUM\_MU5TACHE](#):
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> > > If console had keyboard and mouse support I feel like most Xim users would not play on consoles because their advantage would be gone. Most of them have PC, but play on console because of the advantage they get from having a kb/m against controller users.
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> > You don’t know XIM players. I have several friends who use a XIM and I’ve played with one but it definitely didn’t give me an advantage. The most common reason they don’t use an Xbox controller is because it doesn’t work for them ergonomically. A M/K doesn’t differentiate players on an Xbox and a controller doesn’t level the playing field. Look at all the differences that exist with monitors/TV, headsets, routers, headsets, bandwidth, etc. What’s consistent is the graphics/video card, memory, processor and other internal components.
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> Not true I know multiple Xim users that went to PC and got rekt then came back to console because of it. On a side note I looked at your stats and it’s clear you’ve never played in the competitive community and played against players that have mastered the Xim4. The Xim users you know are probably bad so that’s why the info your getting is wrong about how much of an advantage it gives.

I play CoD on both xbox (with XIM) and PC. My score per minute and KD are almost identical. I don’t use aim assist (most xim players don’t use it because of effect it has on aiming with kb/m) on the xbox so that evens things up a bit. XIM is also limited to turning speed of the game, it can’t make you spin faster than what the game will allow. CoD numbers are so low on PC, I decided to get an xbox so I could play without worrying about getting a lobby going.

Not to mention, anyone can get a XIM, they’re relatively affordable. Not seeing the big deal about the little device except for all of the bad info about it.

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**Author:** ![Mikex2112](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/ad7895/32.png) [@Mikex2112](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Mikex2112)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 5:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/keyboard-and-mouse-support-for-console/102467/30 "2016-10-08T17:15:00Z")

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Xim4 is NOT the same as KB/M on PC.

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**Author:** ![TheRudeJudeTTV](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/therudejudettv/32/103813_2.png) [@TheRudeJudeTTV](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TheRudeJudeTTV)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/keyboard-and-mouse-support-for-console/102467/31 "2016-10-08T18:08:00Z")

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I dont think the price is the factor. My headset and controller together cost more than a xim and a decent mnk.

The point is that its in the grey area. They arent allowed in lan events and are not thought of like scuf or elites BUT I dont think it would take much to change that… If they became a sponsor for mlg or paid enough money, they could be widely accepted. Theres plenty of other outlets besides mlg as well.

There really isnt much point for them to do so tho. With scorpio coming out in a year, its about to bridge the gap for consoles and mnk support (imo) and xim wont even be necessary. Im expecting microsoft to come out with their own accessories or weird plugins so u can only use their products. We will see tho.

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**Author:** ![PottyScottie](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pottyscottie/32/103156_2.png) [@PottyScottie](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PottyScottie)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 7:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/keyboard-and-mouse-support-for-console/102467/32 "2016-10-09T19:55:00Z")

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Another one of these posts. Ugh. Phil spencer already said he will never pit controllers vs kbm players for multiplayer shooters. He would only consider it for single or coop player experiences. A average pc gamer can become a GOD on console when using kbm. Its an unfair advantage. Whoever keeps posting these topics, please stop and go build a pc or in november you can switch to greedy SOny and buy their Hori licensed 150$ Kbm adapter that works with every game. But, keep in mind their ps3 hori kbm was complete garbage and shipped broken.

Stop with these posts. Play on pc.

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**Author:** ![SH1GGLES](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sh1ggles/32/103441_2.png) [@SH1GGLES](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SH1GGLES)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 12:09am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/keyboard-and-mouse-support-for-console/102467/33 "2016-10-10T00:09:00Z")

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Couldn’t care less if someone wants to play with other controllers on a console. Those who do have repeatedly said it’s not the same as playing on a PC. The only advantage I see is cost. Having a solid gaming PC isn’t cheap and continually having to upgrade hardware just adds to the cost. You’ll pay a lot less for a console, adapter and a mouse/KB.

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**Author:** ![PottyScottie](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pottyscottie/32/103156_2.png) [@PottyScottie](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PottyScottie)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:08am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/keyboard-and-mouse-support-for-console/102467/34 "2016-10-10T01:08:00Z")

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> [@SH1GGLES](#):
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> Couldn’t care less if someone wants to play with other controllers on a console. Those who do have repeatedly said it’s not the same as playing on a PC. The only advantage I see is cost. Having a solid gaming PC isn’t cheap and continually having to upgrade hardware just adds to the cost. You’ll pay a lot less for a console, adapter and a mouse/KB.

Yeah you will care when some pc scrub keeps nemesis-ing you game after game after game because he’s point and clicking kills.

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**Author:** ![kingbluewolf](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/46a35a/32.png) [@kingbluewolf](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/kingbluewolf)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 10:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/keyboard-and-mouse-support-for-console/102467/35 "2016-11-03T22:09:00Z")

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Why so angry about KBM requests? If someone said “let’s prevent PottyScotty from giving Phil lap dances” THEN you could get mad and rant and rage.  
I moved onto console because it’s a simple plug and play machine, period. Would I become a better player using KBM ,sure. But a GOD, not by far.  
Quit being a tool PottyScotty.

> [@PottyScottie](#):
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> Another one of these posts. Ugh. Phil spencer already said he will never pit controllers vs kbm players for multiplayer shooters. He would only consider it for single or coop player experiences. A average pc gamer can become a GOD on console …

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**Author:** ![SH1GGLES](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sh1ggles/32/103441_2.png) [@SH1GGLES](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SH1GGLES)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 1:11am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/keyboard-and-mouse-support-for-console/102467/36 "2016-11-04T01:11:00Z")

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> [@PottyScottie](#):
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> > [@SH1GGLES](#):
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> > Couldn’t care less if someone wants to play with other controllers on a console. Those who do have repeatedly said it’s not the same as playing on a PC. The only advantage I see is cost. Having a solid gaming PC isn’t cheap and continually having to upgrade hardware just adds to the cost. You’ll pay a lot less for a console, adapter and a mouse/KB.
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> Yeah you will care when some pc scrub keeps nemesis-ing you game after game after game because he’s point and clicking kills.

KB/M players have been on consoles for years. Hasn’t affected my gaming experience in the least.

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**Author:** ![kingbluewolf](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/46a35a/32.png) [@kingbluewolf](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/kingbluewolf)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 4:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/keyboard-and-mouse-support-for-console/102467/37 "2016-11-04T16:07:00Z")

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> [@SH1GGLES](#):
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> KB/M players have been on consoles for years. Hasn’t affected my gaming experience in the least.

Well said. If someone wants to augment their play style with KBM where is the harm?

There are monsters out there who rock the controller! KBM would just help myself level my playing field. Besides, how many KBM players are out there? Maybe 1 in 64!

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