# lets hope bf1 be like the great bf1942 and not pay to win model **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 14, 2016, 1:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-hope-bf1-be-like-the-great-bf1942-and-not-pay-to-win-model/101277 "2016-05-14T13:31:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![emile44](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/emile44/32/101857_2.png) [@emile44](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/emile44)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2016, 1:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-hope-bf1-be-like-the-great-bf1942-and-not-pay-to-win-model/101277/1 "2016-05-14T13:31:00Z")
we need mod support no unlocks no premium or any form of weapons you can buy to get upper hand navy battles you probably won’t get any of this in the new bf1 so it’s time to move back to bf1942 lets have look at the mods [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlIMYAHs5PE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlIMYAHs5PE) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYZpTfTiycY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYZpTfTiycY) [![Video: FPS klub - BattleGroup42 - Battle of Ortona (the movie)](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/d/9/d96978983f2c20ec4028a7a48881a0f0b2afde05.jpeg "FPS klub - BattleGroup42 - Battle of Ortona (the movie)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjx7ZrKnIOs) ---
**Author:** ![JadedJunglist](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jadedjunglist/32/102351_2.png) [@JadedJunglist](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JadedJunglist)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2016, 1:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-hope-bf1-be-like-the-great-bf1942-and-not-pay-to-win-model/101277/2 "2016-05-14T13:40:00Z")
when has BF ever been pay to win? sure you arent able to obtain some weapons available through dlc if you havent purchased it but these items have never been game breaking. has dlc ever put someone at a legitimate disadvantage to back up this pay to win claim? ---
**Author:** ![Brentlostak](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/brentlostak/32/101414_2.png) [@Brentlostak](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Brentlostak)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2016, 1:47pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-hope-bf1-be-like-the-great-bf1942-and-not-pay-to-win-model/101277/3 "2016-05-14T13:47:00Z")
yeah mods, this is something that will never happen! + pay to win is never been the case for battlefield! ---
**Author:** ![emile44](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/emile44/32/101857_2.png) [@emile44](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/emile44)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2016, 1:52pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-hope-bf1-be-like-the-great-bf1942-and-not-pay-to-win-model/101277/4 "2016-05-14T13:52:00Z")
battlepacks premium Shortcut Bundles need i say more ? if just buy bf4 standard you need spend hours and hours to unlock your guns or you can just go to the origin store and buy it in 10 secs in bf1942 you dont have this you get guns at the start ---
**Author:** ![KaaDaver](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kaadaver/32/102448_2.png) [@KaaDaver](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KaaDaver)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2016, 2:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-hope-bf1-be-like-the-great-bf1942-and-not-pay-to-win-model/101277/5 "2016-05-14T14:01:00Z")
The scar, my top gun is the second ar ---
**Author:** ![JadedJunglist](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jadedjunglist/32/102351_2.png) [@JadedJunglist](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JadedJunglist)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2016, 2:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-hope-bf1-be-like-the-great-bf1942-and-not-pay-to-win-model/101277/6 "2016-05-14T14:01:00Z")
battlepacks and shortcuts dont provide you with anything you cant obtain in game. battlepacks provide attachments and exp boosts. last i checked level essentially means nothing and you can earn your weapon attachments simply by using your weapon. short cuts are just short cuts and still are not pay to win. i am in no way over powered by someone who purchased a short cut to their kit. its not like a free to play model mmo where people practice rmt to obtain enhancements to their gear thus briefly over powering their opposition. BF is not now and has never been pay to win ---
**Author:** ![zePokar1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/35a633/32.png) [@zePokar1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/zePokar1)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2016, 2:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-hope-bf1-be-like-the-great-bf1942-and-not-pay-to-win-model/101277/7 "2016-05-14T14:16:00Z")
> [@emile44](#): > > battlepacks premium Shortcut Bundles need i say more ? if just buy bf4 standard you need spend hours and hours to unlock your guns or you can just go to the origin store and buy it in 10 secs in bf1942 you dont have this you get guns at the start Yeah you need to say more because Battlefield has never been pay2win. You can buy shortcuts wich is pretty ridiculous but in no way it is pay2win since everyone can get thoses unlocks too. ---
**Author:** ![emile44](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/emile44/32/101857_2.png) [@emile44](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/emile44)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2016, 3:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-hope-bf1-be-like-the-great-bf1942-and-not-pay-to-win-model/101277/8 "2016-05-14T15:20:00Z")
it is pay to win if was not there be no battlepacks no premium no Shortcut Bundles lets have look at older battlefield games bf1942 = just click on gun kit you want to have and spawn knowing the enemy does not have a better gun or rank up faster bf Vietnam = same as bf1942 bf2 this is where start to see unlocks the idea of pay2win was already in bf2 why ? if buy it at Release date for the full 70 dollers all players you be playing are at the same rank and unlocks as you if buy it 2 years later for 20 dollers all players you be playing will have unlock all guns but at least you know that they had to play hours and hours to do it but still means they have upper hand for some time on you so is this game pay2win yes and no bf2142 same as bf2 bfbc and 2 same as bf2 bf heroes bf free2play well dont want to even talk about that that pure pay2win bf3 this is where we start to see premium so can unlock faster if you pay more ? that is pay to win bf4 the Ultimate Shortcut Bundle = unlock all weapons and upgrades unlock all air vehicle upgrades unlock all ground and sea vehicle upgrades how is that not pay 2 win ? for me pay2win = if you can buy stuff that give a advantage early in game ---
**Author:** ![GRAW2ROBZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/graw2robz/32/102113_2.png) [@GRAW2ROBZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GRAW2ROBZ)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2016, 3:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-hope-bf1-be-like-the-great-bf1942-and-not-pay-to-win-model/101277/9 "2016-05-14T15:33:00Z")
Shortcuts I thought were bogus. I put my time in to unlock stuff. Then a XMAS noob can log in and buy everything and be ahead of the learning curve at a lower rank. I think that’s . ---
**Author:** ![zePokar1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/35a633/32.png) [@zePokar1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/zePokar1)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2016, 4:12pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-hope-bf1-be-like-the-great-bf1942-and-not-pay-to-win-model/101277/10 "2016-05-14T16:12:00Z")
> [@emile44](#): > > it is pay to win if was not there be no battlepacks no premium no Shortcut Bundles I don’t think you understand what pay2win means. You always get really good weapons very early in the unlocks anyway and you can compete. ---
**Author:** ![Sgt-Sph1ncter](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/5fc32e/32.png) [@Sgt-Sph1ncter](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sgt-Sph1ncter)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-hope-bf1-be-like-the-great-bf1942-and-not-pay-to-win-model/101277/11 "2016-05-14T19:44:00Z")
> [@emile44](#): > > we need mod support > > no unlocks > > no premium or any form of weapons you can buy to get upper hand > > navy battles > > you probably won’t get any of this in the new bf1 so it’s time to move back to bf1942 lets have look at the mods I like premium membership, and all the goodies that come with it! Too bad if some people cant afford it. Its not my fault people are to lazy to get a job. ---
**Author:** ![m1k3ol](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/eb9ed0/32.png) [@m1k3ol](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/m1k3ol)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2016, 12:03am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-hope-bf1-be-like-the-great-bf1942-and-not-pay-to-win-model/101277/12 "2016-05-15T00:03:00Z")
BF3 only needed the M16A3, which was used even by “maxed out” users, and was the first gun, lol ---
**Author:** ![RustyFrags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/rustyfrags/32/103330_2.png) [@RustyFrags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/RustyFrags)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2016, 12:06am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-hope-bf1-be-like-the-great-bf1942-and-not-pay-to-win-model/101277/13 "2016-05-15T00:06:00Z")
Battlefield has never been P2W. Weapons that come with DLCs are usually below average-average. ---
**Author:** ![medinaalex47](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/medinaalex47/32/102180_2.png) [@medinaalex47](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/medinaalex47)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2016, 12:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-hope-bf1-be-like-the-great-bf1942-and-not-pay-to-win-model/101277/14 "2016-05-15T00:26:00Z")
> [@RustyFrags](#): > > Battlefield has never been P2W. Weapons that come with DLCs are usually below average-average. At 160? Gol magnum? Mpx? Rpk? Those weapons in itself are gold in BF4.. Is that pay to win tho? Not at all.. Video games have share holder now, pretty trippy.. ---
**Author:** ![JadedJunglist](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jadedjunglist/32/102351_2.png) [@JadedJunglist](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JadedJunglist)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2016, 12:39am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-hope-bf1-be-like-the-great-bf1942-and-not-pay-to-win-model/101277/15 "2016-05-15T00:39:00Z")
even if weapons do seemingly out perform others means nothing. its about what works for the individual. when jack frags was pushing the ACE on his sheep and half the community was running with this weapon, it wasnt for me. i preferred the SG553. so i reiterate, this is battlefield. its about finding what works for you and out playing your opposition. no paid for content will give me any advantage over anyone else nor will it put someone at an advantage over myself. ---
**Author:** ![pHill-Ace](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a88e57/32.png) [@pHill-Ace](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/pHill-Ace)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2016, 12:42am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-hope-bf1-be-like-the-great-bf1942-and-not-pay-to-win-model/101277/16 "2016-05-15T00:42:00Z")
[http://www.pcgamer.com/microtransactions-and-map-packs-confirmed-for-battlefield-1/](http://www.pcgamer.com/microtransactions-and-map-packs-confirmed-for-battlefield-1/) ---
**Author:** ![m1k3ol](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/eb9ed0/32.png) [@m1k3ol](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/m1k3ol)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2016, 1:41am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-hope-bf1-be-like-the-great-bf1942-and-not-pay-to-win-model/101277/17 "2016-05-15T01:41:00Z")
> [@pHill-Ace](#): > > [http://www.pcgamer.com/microtransactions-and-map-packs-confirmed-for-battlefield-1/](http://www.pcgamer.com/microtransactions-and-map-packs-confirmed-for-battlefield-1/) Which was also mentioned to not be P2W Which is what all the other titles have (Battlepacks and shortcuts), which is microtransactions ---
**Author:** ![CAPT\_Gangplank](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/eb9ed0/32.png) [@CAPT\_Gangplank](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CAPT_Gangplank)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2016, 3:39am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-hope-bf1-be-like-the-great-bf1942-and-not-pay-to-win-model/101277/18 "2016-05-15T03:39:00Z")
Am I the only one not thrilled by the idea of map pack DLC? ---
**Author:** ![bf1helicopter](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bf1helicopter](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bf1helicopter)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2016, 4:05am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-hope-bf1-be-like-the-great-bf1942-and-not-pay-to-win-model/101277/19 "2016-05-15T04:05:00Z")
Hopefully it’s pay to win. been saving my money ---
**Author:** ![Crackhead88](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crackhead88/32/101570_2.png) [@Crackhead88](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Crackhead88)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2016, 7:10am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-hope-bf1-be-like-the-great-bf1942-and-not-pay-to-win-model/101277/20 "2016-05-15T07:10:00Z")
> [@JadedJunglist](#): > > when has BF ever been pay to win? sure you arent able to obtain some weapons available through dlc if you havent purchased it but these items have never been game breaking. has dlc ever put someone at a legitimate disadvantage to back up this pay to win claim? That of a game Battlefield Play4Free was pay to win. [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-hope-bf1-be-like-the-great-bf1942-and-not-pay-to-win-model/101277.md?page=2)