# Lets talk Assault rifles

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-talk-assault-rifles/110539>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [December 15, 2013, 12:47am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-talk-assault-rifles/110539 "2013-12-15T00:47:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Stole\_My\_Banana](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Stole\_My\_Banana](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Stole_My_Banana)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 12:47am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-talk-assault-rifles/110539/1 "2013-12-15T00:47:17Z")

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So I have been working on assault class unlocks and am wondering what you guys consider the “best” assault rifle. I have recently been using mostly the L85A2 and only recently have discovered that while it is decent in short range (due to high RPM) it is AMAZING at mid-\>long range.

I have noticed a lot of people tend to us the AK pattern rifles…so what is everyone’s opinion?

EDIT: after some research and experimentation I have determined the best assault rifle.

ACE 23 \> all

Rate of fire is perfect (high enough to win duels point blank, low enough to not destroy your ammo pool)

The damage is broken…seriously give this thing a try and you will be trying to figure out how you bumped into 3 people and killed them all with 5 rounds left in the mag

Stability is amazing. Probably the most stable gun that I have used so far, you can literally lean on the trigger and stay on target

mid range is just as strong (if not stronger) than the L85…part due to bullet damage and part due to the super low recoil

So there you have it…you want an assault rifle that beats them all? Get the ACE. Too bad you have to get 200 kills with another assault rifle to unlock it

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**Author:** ![skinny\_gator](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@skinny\_gator](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/skinny_gator)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 1:49am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-talk-assault-rifles/110539/2 "2013-12-15T01:49:36Z")

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My go to assault rifle is the sar because I prefer the stability. I have a few mods/attachments that increase the stability even more. I prefer to target people at a short distance then up close and personal. It just gives me an advantage.

Every one is different though.

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**Author:** ![JuggernautClass](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/6a8cbe/32.png) [@JuggernautClass](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JuggernautClass)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 1:52am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-talk-assault-rifles/110539/3 "2013-12-15T01:52:16Z")

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I prefer to stick to more stable weapons in all classes. Extra damage isn’t worth much if you can’t keep your aim on-target. Bullpup weapons are supposed to allow you to move faster while ADS, but I think it might be bugged currently.

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**Author:** ![Seerix](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Seerix](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Seerix)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 1:59am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-talk-assault-rifles/110539/4 "2013-12-15T01:59:16Z")

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AEK for smaller maps, SCAR H for larger.

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**Author:** ![Keamy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@Keamy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Keamy)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 2:04am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-talk-assault-rifles/110539/5 "2013-12-15T02:04:40Z")

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M416 - All-rounder

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**Author:** ![El\_Camino\_SS](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/a698b9/32.png) [@El\_Camino\_SS](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/El_Camino_SS)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 2:36am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-talk-assault-rifles/110539/6 "2013-12-15T02:36:12Z")

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I’d say it has a lot more to do with ‘learning your gun and sticking with it.’

All of the assault rifles have great response, and really, the differences with them are academic. I look at my shooting patterns in a game, and realize, that “thinking that the grass is greener on this map because I will use this gun,” is a fools errand.  
Switching guns actually makes you forget how to shoot properly as you reformat your mind for that weapon.  
Find a AR that you like, and stick.  
Find a shotgun that you like, and keep using it.  
Find a carbine you like, and stick.

If you think that any particular gun is going to ‘get you over that hump’ as far as upping your K/D is concerned, you’re fooling yourself.  
Pick your gun, learn it, stick with it, if the tactics change, then adapt, but it’s not the assault rifle of any particular game that is going to mess you up.  
You start changing guns mid-game, and I guarantee your K/D is going to go down.

It’s what I call the ‘engineer paradox.’ You GET KILLED BY A TANK WHEN YOU HAVE A STINGER. So you get out your rocket launcher. Then a second later, you get killed by a chopper. You go back to a stinger, and then you got a tank up in your shit again.

If you have a pesky chopper, then switch. Don’t be changing everything mid-game, it just leaves you second guessing your tactics.

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**Author:** ![febreeze1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/ed8c4c/32.png) [@febreeze1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/febreeze1)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 3:49am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-talk-assault-rifles/110539/7 "2013-12-15T03:49:05Z")

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I personally like the AK’s

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**Author:** ![Oh\_Sweet\_Jeebus](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@Oh\_Sweet\_Jeebus](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Oh_Sweet_Jeebus)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 4:23am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-talk-assault-rifles/110539/8 "2013-12-15T04:23:02Z")

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I prefer the SAR too. I could up against an opponent with a higher RoF but still win, even at close range, because I can get the shots on target.

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**Author:** ![gotyougoodfookah](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/a9adbd/32.png) [@gotyougoodfookah](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/gotyougoodfookah)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 12:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-talk-assault-rifles/110539/9 "2013-12-15T12:42:45Z")

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I have never been an assault player but the l85a2 with stability mods is just outstanding equal or better than the sar

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**Author:** ![trollingisfun](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/4da419/32.png) [@trollingisfun](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/trollingisfun)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 4:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-talk-assault-rifles/110539/10 "2013-12-15T16:45:32Z")

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- AEK + muzzle break + angle grip + laser sight
- ACE21 + muzzle break + angle grip + laser sight

AEK is the best DPS, ACE21 is close while having good reload speed.

M416 is also nice but isn’t as good as ACE21.

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**Author:** ![HugePWNr](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/7c8e57/32.png) [@HugePWNr](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HugePWNr)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 7:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-talk-assault-rifles/110539/11 "2013-12-15T19:18:31Z")

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If the differences between the AEK and the SAR are “academic,” then I’m Michael Bolton.

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**Author:** ![kraddy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ee7513/32.png) [@kraddy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/kraddy)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 9:49am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-talk-assault-rifles/110539/12 "2013-12-16T09:49:54Z")

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ACE 23 is seriously amazing. Best spray pattern combined with a great ROF.

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**Author:** ![Stole\_My\_Banana](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Stole\_My\_Banana](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Stole_My_Banana)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 3:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-talk-assault-rifles/110539/13 "2013-12-16T15:50:25Z")

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confirmed

I unlocked the ACE randomly last night while I was trying to get to the AEK and decided I would give it a try. This thing is a MONSTER

Short range??? NP with super high stability you can just lay on the trigger and every shot hits

Mid range?? Swear to god ZERO bullet drop, good damage

Long range?? ok, have not tried it yet

The thing I really love about this gun is the fire rate + the bullet damage combined with the stability make this the perfect weapon. I often found myself with the L85 needing 2/3 of a mag to actually get a kill. With the AEK I found it almost impossible to NOT drop an entire mag…the with the ACE I score my kills normally in less than 10 bullets. It is the only gun I have used so far that I don’t feel like I have to have a full mag to be useful.

The only weapon I can think to compare it to is the AN94 from bad company 2…which was my favorite weapon for assault. The damage seems absurdly high at times, and you actually go through ammo at a reasonable pace (looking at you AEK)

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**Author:** ![kraddy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ee7513/32.png) [@kraddy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/kraddy)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 6:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-talk-assault-rifles/110539/14 "2013-12-16T18:26:31Z")

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Hah glad you like it. I think its best parallel is the pre-nerf M16A3 from BF3 what with how its pretty much the best all around.

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**Author:** ![Stole\_My\_Banana](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Stole\_My\_Banana](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Stole_My_Banana)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 7:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-talk-assault-rifles/110539/15 "2013-12-16T19:07:26Z")

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It really does do everything. I love that tap tap tap will kill about anyone and leave you with 2/3 of a mag

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**Author:** ![lilvoice32](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@lilvoice32](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/lilvoice32)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2013, 6:35am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lets-talk-assault-rifles/110539/16 "2013-12-18T06:35:15Z")

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best one shot sniper?
