# "Line of Sight" gamemode is NOT PTFO FRIENDLY!!!! DICE!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 30, 2016, 11:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/line-of-sight-gamemode-is-not-ptfo-friendly-dice/102753 "2016-11-30T23:03:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DTMCRAZY](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dtmcrazy/32/101795_2.png) [@DTMCRAZY](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DTMCRAZY)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 11:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/line-of-sight-gamemode-is-not-ptfo-friendly-dice/102753/1 "2016-11-30T23:03:00Z")
So playing this gamemode just once and already I could tell this is not a PTFO gamemode. Snipers stay far away from everyone and scout out enemy positions. On top of that, a lot of people already complained too much about snipers and now they have 200% damage. I myself don’t have problems with snipers, but come on DICE, listen to the community!!! Medics!!! DO YOUR JOB!!! I know there are players that revive others like its there job, but this gamemode has a lot more medics and I still don’t get revived with 3 medics 5m away from me. These are probably the 2 main classes I here more about in a bad way and DICE, this gamemode isn’t helping. Last thing the SPAWN TIME!!! 30 SECONDS TO WAIT!!! WTF!!! That is all ---
**Author:** ![TickTak77](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ticktak77/32/103838_2.png) [@TickTak77](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TickTak77)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 11:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/line-of-sight-gamemode-is-not-ptfo-friendly-dice/102753/2 "2016-11-30T23:08:00Z")
@DTMCRAZY - Don’t like snipers? Don’t like 200% damage? Don’t like a Rush variant where the primary goal is weapon focus? Then stay out of the Custom Game mode. Simple. Drop that sense of entitlement. It reeks. I thought Fog of War was crap. I didn’t come here and moan about it. I played something else. Grow up. /thread. ---
**Author:** ![incapslap](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/d6d6ee/32.png) [@incapslap](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/incapslap)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 11:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/line-of-sight-gamemode-is-not-ptfo-friendly-dice/102753/3 "2016-11-30T23:57:00Z")
What is this mode? Rush with extra damage for snipers? Lol, hopefully they have a different variant of Sniper Superiority every week to keep them out of the other servers. Would be nice to be able to play more than 4 maps some day. ---
**Author:** ![Jabaariyn](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jabaariyn/32/102344_2.png) [@Jabaariyn](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jabaariyn)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/line-of-sight-gamemode-is-not-ptfo-friendly-dice/102753/4 "2016-12-01T00:05:00Z")
> [@TickTak77](#): > > @DTMCRAZY - Don’t like snipers? Don’t like 200% damage? Don’t like a Rush variant where the primary goal is weapon focus? > > Then stay out of the Custom Game mode. > > Simple. > > Drop that sense of entitlement. It reeks. > > I thought Fog of War was crap. I didn’t come here and moan about it. I played something else. > > Grow up. > > /thread. But don’t you feel like they should be spending more time on aspects of the game that are failing, like RSP, Optimization, instead of dreaming of these useless game modes? ---
**Author:** ![DTMCRAZY](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dtmcrazy/32/101795_2.png) [@DTMCRAZY](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DTMCRAZY)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 1:59am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/line-of-sight-gamemode-is-not-ptfo-friendly-dice/102753/5 "2016-12-01T01:59:00Z")
> [@TickTak77](#): > > @DTMCRAZY - Don’t like snipers? Don’t like 200% damage? Don’t like a Rush variant where the primary goal is weapon focus? > > Then stay out of the Custom Game mode. > > Simple. > > Drop that sense of entitlement. It reeks. > > I thought Fog of War was crap. I didn’t come here and moan about it. I played something else. > > Grow up. > > /thread. First: I played the mode once to see how it was. I played it and I didn’t like it. So I cant see me playing it again. Second: Its a forum. People have the right to complain, complement, and give ideas on the games. (including yours and mine). Otherwise what’s the point of have a forum? Third: There really isn’t a third thing I can think of at this time. ---
**Author:** ![ChineseToTheBone1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/45deac/32.png) [@ChineseToTheBone1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ChineseToTheBone1)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 2:38am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/line-of-sight-gamemode-is-not-ptfo-friendly-dice/102753/6 "2016-12-01T02:38:00Z")
> [@Jurgen\_Kappke](#): > > But don’t you feel like they should be spending more time on aspects of the game that are failing, like RSP, Optimization, instead of dreaming of these useless game modes? Creating this new custom game mode was basically adjusting a few settings of Rush, so I doubt it heavily cut into the development time for other aspects of the game DICE is currently working on. ---
**Author:** ![TickTak77](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ticktak77/32/103838_2.png) [@TickTak77](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TickTak77)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 3:03am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/line-of-sight-gamemode-is-not-ptfo-friendly-dice/102753/7 "2016-12-01T03:03:00Z")
> [@Jurgen\_Kappke](#): > > > [@TickTak77](#): > > > > @DTMCRAZY - Don’t like snipers? Don’t like 200% damage? Don’t like a Rush variant where the primary goal is weapon focus? > > > > Then stay out of the Custom Game mode. > > > > Simple. > > > > Drop that sense of entitlement. It reeks. > > > > I thought Fog of War was crap. I didn’t come here and moan about it. I played something else. > > > > Grow up. > > > > /thread. > > But don’t you feel like they should be spending more time on aspects of the game that are failing, like RSP, Optimization, instead of dreaming of these useless game modes? Yes. Creating a game mode which involves changing a few custom settings around doesn’t take much time to do. People were complaining about Fog of War being removed, just in case you still think these game modes are “useless”. People are playing and enjoying them. ---
**Author:** ![TickTak77](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ticktak77/32/103838_2.png) [@TickTak77](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TickTak77)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 3:04am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/line-of-sight-gamemode-is-not-ptfo-friendly-dice/102753/8 "2016-12-01T03:04:00Z")
> [@DTMCRAZY](#): > > > [@TickTak77](#): > > > > @DTMCRAZY - Don’t like snipers? Don’t like 200% damage? Don’t like a Rush variant where the primary goal is weapon focus? > > > > Then stay out of the Custom Game mode. > > > > Simple. > > > > Drop that sense of entitlement. It reeks. > > > > I thought Fog of War was crap. I didn’t come here and moan about it. I played something else. > > > > Grow up. > > > > /thread. > > First: I played the mode once to see how it was. I played it and I didn’t like it. So I cant see me playing it again. > > Second: Its a forum. People have the right to complain, complement, and give ideas on the games. (including yours and mine). Otherwise what’s the point of have a forum? > > Third: There really isn’t a third thing I can think of at this time. Played it just once. Complained about a single minor timed game mode. Insulted developers. Don’t expect people to take you seriously with that stuff. ---
**Author:** ![iKingCobra88](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ikingcobra88/32/102288_2.png) [@iKingCobra88](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iKingCobra88)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 4:44am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/line-of-sight-gamemode-is-not-ptfo-friendly-dice/102753/9 "2016-12-01T04:44:00Z")
I can’t believe this is what they replaced Fog of War with.. A good unique game mode in exchange for a very stripped down version of rush. ---
**Author:** ![TickTak77](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ticktak77/32/103838_2.png) [@TickTak77](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TickTak77)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 5:20am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/line-of-sight-gamemode-is-not-ptfo-friendly-dice/102753/10 "2016-12-01T05:20:00Z")
> [@iKingCobra88](#): > > I can’t believe this is what they replaced Fog of War with.. A good unique game mode in exchange for a very stripped down version of rush. Fog of War was broken, which likely helped in their decision to remove it. ---
**Author:** ![iKingCobra88](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ikingcobra88/32/102288_2.png) [@iKingCobra88](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iKingCobra88)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 5:46am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/line-of-sight-gamemode-is-not-ptfo-friendly-dice/102753/11 "2016-12-01T05:46:00Z")
> [@TickTak77](#): > > > [@iKingCobra88](#): > > > > I can’t believe this is what they replaced Fog of War with.. A good unique game mode in exchange for a very stripped down version of rush. > > Fog of War was broken, which likely helped in their decision to remove it. I played a great deal of Fog of War and only encountered a handful of people running K-bullets and never saw anyone with a primary. Not to say people weren’t, but I really think most people didn’t know the glitch or could care less and just played it how it was supposed to be. It wouldn’t have done any harm to have left it up for the people that enjoyed it. ---
**Author:** ![TheNorthFIN](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thenorthfin/32/101739_2.png) [@TheNorthFIN](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TheNorthFIN)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 5:56am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/line-of-sight-gamemode-is-not-ptfo-friendly-dice/102753/12 "2016-12-01T05:56:00Z")
I haven’t played this game mode, but reading what it’s about makes me thing it’s just two sides sniping each other and no one gets anywhere. I’ll try anything once, though. ---
**Author:** ![neoge0](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/neoge0/32/102937_2.png) [@neoge0](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/neoge0)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 8:47am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/line-of-sight-gamemode-is-not-ptfo-friendly-dice/102753/13 "2016-12-01T08:47:00Z")
> [@TinkkiVaari](#): > > I haven’t played this game mode, but reading what it’s about makes me thing it’s just two sides sniping each other and no one gets anywhere. I’ll try anything once, though. They obiously knew that before launching this gamemode. According to Occam’s Razor I would say this is logically DICE’s way to try and pull camping snipers away from ruining the lack of PTFOing atm, specially in HC. Doubt it will succeed for two reasons, presence of 3D spotting and lack of oblivious targets that can’t actually shoot back at campers. You did make a good point however. Create a new gamemode called “Jamboree Shoot out”, unpassable valley in the middle, teams spawn on either side, scouts only, OHK for the cheap kill feeling, no objective other than getting X amount of kills. See if that gets them out of our hair and let them camp out to eternity. ---
**Author:** ![Private\_UMPalot](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/private_umpalot/32/103169_2.png) [@Private\_UMPalot](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Private_UMPalot)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 8:54am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/line-of-sight-gamemode-is-not-ptfo-friendly-dice/102753/14 "2016-12-01T08:54:00Z")
There is going to be a different custom game every two weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Shezoremet](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/shezoremet/32/103455_2.png) [@Shezoremet](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Shezoremet)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 9:02am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/line-of-sight-gamemode-is-not-ptfo-friendly-dice/102753/15 "2016-12-01T09:02:00Z")
> [@TinkkiVaari](#): > > I haven’t played this game mode, but reading what it’s about makes me thing it’s just two sides sniping each other and no one gets anywhere. I’ll try anything once, though. You’ll be lucky to get half-way across the map without getting team killed. I even had someone in my last match say in chat “Who can I go and TK battle this time?” It’s like some sort of fun for the slow kids to kill team mates that are actually trying to play the game. Maybe it’s because they suck at the game and so they don’t want anyone else to play it, or maybe they are just salty core players that want to vent some frustration because they just got 360 no scoped by a hacker 50 times. Whatever the reason is, it needs to be fixed and I wouldn’t recommend the mode to anyone just yet. The amount of trolling each round is just too damn high. ---
**Author:** ![DTMCRAZY](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dtmcrazy/32/101795_2.png) [@DTMCRAZY](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DTMCRAZY)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 11:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/line-of-sight-gamemode-is-not-ptfo-friendly-dice/102753/16 "2016-12-01T11:24:00Z")
> [@TinkkiVaari](#): > > I haven’t played this game mode, but reading what it’s about makes me thing it’s just two sides sniping each other and no one gets anywhere. I’ll try anything once, though. > [@TickTak77](#): > > > [@DTMCRAZY](#): > > > > > [@TickTak77](#): > > > > > > @DTMCRAZY - Don’t like snipers? Don’t like 200% damage? Don’t like a Rush variant where the primary goal is weapon focus? > > > > > > Then stay out of the Custom Game mode. > > > > > > Simple. > > > > > > Drop that sense of entitlement. It reeks. > > > > > > I thought Fog of War was crap. I didn’t come here and moan about it. I played something else. > > > > > > Grow up. > > > > > > /thread. > > > > First: I played the mode once to see how it was. I played it and I didn’t like it. So I cant see me playing it again. > > > > Second: Its a forum. People have the right to complain, complement, and give ideas on the games. (including yours and mine). Otherwise what’s the point of have a forum? > > > > Third: There really isn’t a third thing I can think of at this time. > > Played it just once. > > Complained about a single minor timed game mode. > > Insulted developers. > > Don’t expect people to take you seriously with that stuff. Again its a forum, anyone can take me seriously if they want or not. ---
**Author:** ![Marshennn](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/marshennn/32/102748_2.png) [@Marshennn](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Marshennn)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 11:47am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/line-of-sight-gamemode-is-not-ptfo-friendly-dice/102753/17 "2016-12-01T11:47:00Z")
Not enjoying it at all. It had potential to be a great WW1 themed rush mode, but the 200% damage completely ruins the fun. It’s unnecessary too, because snipers have sweet spots, so they don’t have to be OHK at all ranges, especially in a game mode that is based on attacking/defending linear sections. ---
**Author:** ![bulletsearl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/ea666f/32.png) [@bulletsearl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bulletsearl)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 11:58am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/line-of-sight-gamemode-is-not-ptfo-friendly-dice/102753/18 "2016-12-01T11:58:00Z")
Idk why the Devs do useless exotic stuff like this but cannot fix the most basic and annoying bugs out there. if they would have created custom servers with the possibilities BF4 had, all those exotic game modes would have be done by the community. ---
**Author:** ![AntiCZe](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e9bcb4/32.png) [@AntiCZe](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/AntiCZe)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 12:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/line-of-sight-gamemode-is-not-ptfo-friendly-dice/102753/19 "2016-12-01T12:01:00Z")
BTW. Do medics use smokes in this mode? If not this can be problem… On BF3 rush smokes are very important and almost no one use it… ---
**Author:** ![IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/illilliii/32/102293_2.png) [@IllIllIII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IllIllIII)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 12:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/line-of-sight-gamemode-is-not-ptfo-friendly-dice/102753/20 "2016-12-01T12:05:00Z")
> [@DTMCRAZY](#): > > So playing this gamemode just once and already I could tell this is not a PTFO gamemode. > > Snipers stay far away from everyone and scout out enemy positions. On top of that, a lot of people already complained too much about snipers and now they have 200% damage. I myself don’t have problems with snipers, but come on DICE, listen to the community!!! > > Medics!!! DO YOUR JOB!!! I know there are players that revive others like its there job, but this gamemode has a lot more medics and I still don’t get revived with 3 medics 5m away from me. > > These are probably the 2 main classes I here more about in a bad way and DICE, this gamemode isn’t helping. > > Last thing the SPAWN TIME!!! 30 SECONDS TO WAIT!!! WTF!!! > > That is all Already been posted many times… Reply in these posts and stop spammen the forum…