# Lock On Scrubs & BF1

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lock-on-scrubs-bf1/101502>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 24, 2016, 1:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lock-on-scrubs-bf1/101502 "2016-05-24T13:04:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ChickNFoot](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/chicknfoot/32/101502_2.png) [@ChickNFoot](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ChickNFoot)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lock-on-scrubs-bf1/101502/21 "2016-05-24T18:59:00Z")

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I thought that no lockons was pretty self explained when the WW1 setting was announced.

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**Author:** ![Benny9393](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/benny9393/32/101317_2.png) [@Benny9393](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Benny9393)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lock-on-scrubs-bf1/101502/22 "2016-05-24T19:04:00Z")

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> [@ChickNFoot](#):
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> I thought that no lockons was pretty self explained when the WW1 setting was announced.

Haha basically this.

Also not wanting to be locked onto every 30 seconds does not equal being a bad player.

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**Author:** ![HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@HaveThisRocket](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HaveThisRocket)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lock-on-scrubs-bf1/101502/23 "2016-05-24T19:15:00Z")

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There are also no helicopters either.And planes will be there but not jets with lock ons and 30mm gau instakill cannon

So we’re pretty much guaranteed a cancer free game.

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**Author:** ![JuveOG1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/eada6e/32.png) [@JuveOG1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JuveOG1105)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lock-on-scrubs-bf1/101502/24 "2016-05-24T19:17:00Z")

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> [@HaveThisRocket](#):
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> There are also no helicopters either.And planes will be there but not jets with lock ons and 30mm gau instakill cannon
> 
> So we’re pretty much guaranteed a cancer free game.

Just gadget wise. I hope there’s not an unnecessary amount of useless gadgets or there not used they way they should be.

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**Author:** ![Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sir-xer21/32/103487_2.png) [@Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sir-xer21)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lock-on-scrubs-bf1/101502/25 "2016-05-24T19:56:00Z")

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> [@Jihad\_Jockey](#):
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> A pilot that cant deal with lock ons is more of a scrub than the people using the lock ons.

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**Author:** ![VBALL\_MVP](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/vball_mvp/32/103977_2.png) [@VBALL\_MVP](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VBALL_MVP)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lock-on-scrubs-bf1/101502/26 "2016-05-24T20:05:00Z")

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> [@ChickNFoot](#):
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> I thought that no lockons was pretty self explained when the WW1 setting was announced.

Need at least 10 more threads on this topic before it sinks in.

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**Author:** ![Not\_Paul\_Blart](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/e9a140/32.png) [@Not\_Paul\_Blart](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Not_Paul_Blart)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lock-on-scrubs-bf1/101502/27 "2016-05-24T21:25:00Z")

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This game has the potential to Make Battlefield Great Again. Removing scrub crutches and reintroducing skill into the game is definitely a step in the right direction.

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**Author:** ![Im\_A\_Drag85](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/im_a_drag85/32/102296_2.png) [@Im\_A\_Drag85](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Im_A_Drag85)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 9:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lock-on-scrubs-bf1/101502/28 "2016-05-24T21:42:00Z")

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> [@VBALL\_MVP](#):
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> > [@ChickNFoot](#):
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> > I thought that no lockons was pretty self explained when the WW1 setting was announced.
> 
> Need at least 10 more threads on this topic before it sinks in.

sadly a LOT of folks that play these games are children or at least have the mind of a child

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**Author:** ![H-Hour\_Absolute](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/85f322/32.png) [@H-Hour\_Absolute](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/H-Hour_Absolute)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 5:48am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lock-on-scrubs-bf1/101502/29 "2016-05-25T05:48:00Z")

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> [@TexanWolverine](#):
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> I wasnt completely sold on the idea of a WW1 game, especially since I love modern shooters. But then I got to reading on reddit that there will be no lock ons. **As a pilot, i appreciate the rare time somebody smaws or rpgs me** when i make a run as opposed to the same _beep_beep_beep_beep\* trash i hear from the AA and Stingers/IGLA. Skill being reintroduced to the game? _gasp_ omg they might be onto something!

**First, here’s a little something I thought you might appreciate given your RPG comments haha!**

[![Video: H-HOUR _Absolute: Operation FLYSWAT](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/d/f/dfdf9176d6265e987c0541d672d3107f46193eb4.jpeg "H-HOUR \_Absolute: Operation FLYSWAT") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11PK29mYONo)

**And secondly, have you ever played BFBC2: Vietnam?**  
Reason I ask: in “going back in time” Dice gave a nod to the more fragile air-based vehicles of the time. This meant that you could literally knock a heli out of the air, with a 1911 pistol…it IS possible that in order to balance for no lock-ons, that they decrease biplane/triplane health. Not sure it’s the fix you want…I shot down plenty choppers in BFBC2 with just my pistol lol

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**Author:** ![VectorRoll](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/vectorroll/32/103980_2.png) [@VectorRoll](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VectorRoll)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 6:06am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lock-on-scrubs-bf1/101502/30 "2016-05-25T06:06:00Z")

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You will more than likely have to deal with Flak in BF1. I have a great feeling that it is going to be fun, both taking planes down and trying to survive in them. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Vespervin1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/278dde/32.png) [@Vespervin1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Vespervin1)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 6:23am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lock-on-scrubs-bf1/101502/31 "2016-05-25T06:23:00Z")

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> [@VectorRoll](#):
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> You will more than likely have to deal with Flak in BF1. I have a great feeling that it is going to be fun, both taking planes down and trying to survive in them. 🙂

I hope we get flak cannons, I enjoyed using them a lot when playing BF1942.

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**Author:** ![Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jihad_jockey/32/102395_2.png) [@Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jihad_Jockey)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 10:04am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lock-on-scrubs-bf1/101502/32 "2016-05-25T10:04:00Z")

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> [@H-Hour\_Absolute](#):
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> > [@TexanWolverine](#):
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> > I wasnt completely sold on the idea of a WW1 game, especially since I love modern shooters. But then I got to reading on reddit that there will be no lock ons. **As a pilot, i appreciate the rare time somebody smaws or rpgs me** when i make a run as opposed to the same _beep_beep_beep_beep\* trash i hear from the AA and Stingers/IGLA. Skill being reintroduced to the game? _gasp_ omg they might be onto something!
> 
> **First, here’s a little something I thought you might appreciate given your RPG comments haha!**
> 
> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11PK29mYONo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11PK29mYONo)
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> **And secondly, have you ever played BFBC2: Vietnam?**  
> Reason I ask: in “going back in time” Dice gave a nod to the more fragile air-based vehicles of the time. This meant that you could literally knock a heli out of the air, with a 1911 pistol…it IS possible that in order to balance for no lock-ons, that they decrease biplane/triplane health. Not sure it’s the fix you want…I shot down plenty choppers in BFBC2 with just my pistol lol

I never played BC2. How many people per team?

I dont fancy my chances staying in the air long if they decrease biplane/triplane health and i have 32 enemies shooting at me.

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**Author:** ![xXGriMnEviLXx](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/xxgrimnevilxx/32/112389_2.png) [@xXGriMnEviLXx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xXGriMnEviLXx)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 12:12pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lock-on-scrubs-bf1/101502/33 "2016-05-25T12:12:00Z")

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Who needs lock ons when the planes are made of wood and canvas and slow as hell?

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**Author:** ![H-Hour\_Absolute](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/85f322/32.png) [@H-Hour\_Absolute](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/H-Hour_Absolute)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 10:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lock-on-scrubs-bf1/101502/34 "2016-05-25T22:50:00Z")

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> [@Jihad\_Jockey](#):
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> > [@H-Hour\_Absolute](#):
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> > > [@TexanWolverine](#):
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> > > I wasnt completely sold on the idea of a WW1 game, especially since I love modern shooters. But then I got to reading on reddit that there will be no lock ons. **As a pilot, i appreciate the rare time somebody smaws or rpgs me** when i make a run as opposed to the same _beep_beep_beep_beep\* trash i hear from the AA and Stingers/IGLA. Skill being reintroduced to the game? _gasp_ omg they might be onto something!
> > 
> > **First, here’s a little something I thought you might appreciate given your RPG comments haha!**
> > 
> > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11PK29mYONo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11PK29mYONo)
> > 
> > **And secondly, have you ever played BFBC2: Vietnam?**  
> > Reason I ask: in “going back in time” Dice gave a nod to the more fragile air-based vehicles of the time. This meant that you could literally knock a heli out of the air, with a 1911 pistol…it IS possible that in order to balance for no lock-ons, that they decrease biplane/triplane health. Not sure it’s the fix you want…I shot down plenty choppers in BFBC2 with just my pistol lol
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> I never played BC2. How many people per team?
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> I dont fancy my chances staying in the air long if they decrease biplane/triplane health and i have 32 enemies shooting at me.

BC2 allowed maximum of 24 players total on conquest (12 v 12), and a maximum of 32 players total on PC (16 v 16).

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**Author:** ![JuveOG1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/eada6e/32.png) [@JuveOG1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JuveOG1105)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 11:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lock-on-scrubs-bf1/101502/35 "2016-05-25T23:00:00Z")

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Hey H-Hour former socom player?

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**Author:** ![H-Hour\_Absolute](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/85f322/32.png) [@H-Hour\_Absolute](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/H-Hour_Absolute)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 12:00am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lock-on-scrubs-bf1/101502/36 "2016-05-26T00:00:00Z")

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> [@JuveOG1105](#):
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> Hey H-Hour former socom player?

I never owned it, but I did play it several times. Seemed legit enough.

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**Author:** ![P4tchey](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/p4tchey/32/103057_2.png) [@P4tchey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/P4tchey)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 3:42am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lock-on-scrubs-bf1/101502/37 "2016-05-26T03:42:00Z")

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Yeah IGLAs were super common back in the turn of the century.

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**Author:** ![visegrip117](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/visegrip117/32/104005_2.png) [@visegrip117](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/visegrip117)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 11:11am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lock-on-scrubs-bf1/101502/38 "2016-05-26T11:11:00Z")

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It should balance out.  
No lock ons, yet planes take damage from small fire arms

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**Author:** ![Peccath](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/peccath/32/103094_2.png) [@Peccath](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Peccath)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 11:49am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lock-on-scrubs-bf1/101502/39 "2016-05-26T11:49:00Z")

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> [@xXGriMnEviLXx](#):
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> Who needs lock ons when the planes are made of wood and canvas and slow as hell?

Who needs them in the first place?

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**Author:** ![JuveOG1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/eada6e/32.png) [@JuveOG1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JuveOG1105)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 12:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/lock-on-scrubs-bf1/101502/40 "2016-05-26T12:28:00Z")

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> [@H-Hour\_Absolute](#):
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> > [@JuveOG1105](#):
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> > Hey H-Hour former socom player?
> 
> I never owned it, but I did play it several times. Seemed legit enough.

Ahhhh damn I use to play it so much back in the day. Wish H-Hour didn’t flop.

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