# Master Discussion Thread For BF4 Punkbuster Bans. **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 26, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/master-discussion-thread-for-bf4-punkbuster-bans/104609 "2019-02-26T18:08:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Axlerod1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Axlerod1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Axlerod1)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2020, 2:43am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/master-discussion-thread-for-bf4-punkbuster-bans/104609/181 "2020-09-29T02:43:00Z")
Internet Lawyers are out in full force. More times than not, punkbuster gets it right. They do over turn legitimate bans. I actually wish on the next battlefield game, EA would go back to punkbuster and 3rd party servers with live admins. ---
**Author:** ![StarscreamUK](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@StarscreamUK](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/StarscreamUK)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2020, 4:10am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/master-discussion-thread-for-bf4-punkbuster-bans/104609/182 "2020-09-29T04:10:00Z")
> [@USMCss07](#): > > Two questions still remain: will anything ever come from these facts…probably not. I do not have the time to pursue them. Although, I know of several class action law firms that are interested and have stated interest after browsing (and copying) each and everyone of the pages registered under this topic. And, will the moderators of this forum choose to keep this post moved out of the public/users eyes, as it was removed as a sticky’d or pinned post about 4 months ago. I would recommend that it be re-pinned as it will not do EA well to scuttle (and eventually delete) this topic. Yes we keep out of users eyes by a) keeping it open b) not locking it… Who’d have thought that a topic would go down the index because people don’t post in it? Good luck with your law firms, but don’t raise it in this thread, as discussion of legal action is the fastest way to close open discussions. ---
**Author:** ![SpoolaZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@SpoolaZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SpoolaZ)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2020, 7:37pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/master-discussion-thread-for-bf4-punkbuster-bans/104609/183 "2020-10-03T19:37:00Z")
Always fun with people who have to sue the out of Punkbuster for all false bans, but year after year they also seem to lack the basis to create a valid lawsuit. ---
**Author:** ![BI3nd3R](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/b5a626/32.png) [@BI3nd3R](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BI3nd3R)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2020, 11:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/master-discussion-thread-for-bf4-punkbuster-bans/104609/184 "2020-10-03T23:21:00Z")
hmm i see the problem with false bans is bigger than i thinked. 2/3 days ago when i play BF4 i got Kicked by punkbuster , after that i go start search where is my problem i got 2 another “Violation” reasons at first i got “Violation (AIMBOT) #51174” after 2/3 tryes go into server i got another “Violation” now its name is " (GAMEHACK) #81686". My “ban” is not listed on pbbans MBi. Writing on the pbbans forum about it 0 reaction from the stuff.I saw some bans on MBi but my GUID is clear. My GUID “PB Server assigned guid = 272f64056a3c351558e89147c713ce7c” I can only say i NEVER bought again bf and any game secured by PB. ---
**Author:** ![khm3](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/45deac/32.png) [@khm3](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/khm3)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2020, 11:57am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/master-discussion-thread-for-bf4-punkbuster-bans/104609/185 "2020-10-04T11:57:00Z")
> [@SpoolaZ](#): > > Always fun with people who have to sue the ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ out of Punkbuster for all false bans, but year after year they also seem to lack the basis to create a valid lawsuit. What are you implying? ---
**Author:** ![SpoolaZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@SpoolaZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SpoolaZ)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/master-discussion-thread-for-bf4-punkbuster-bans/104609/186 "2020-10-09T18:53:00Z")
> [@khm3](#): > > > [@SpoolaZ](#): > > > > Always fun with people who have to sue the ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ out of Punkbuster for all false bans, but year after year they also seem to lack the basis to create a valid lawsuit. > > What are you implying? If the cheaters are few, and that all who are banned is only innocent. Then it should be easy to sue Evenbalance, right. > [@](#): > ---
**Author:** ![rocketrandalhood](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/bc8723/32.png) [@rocketrandalhood](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/rocketrandalhood)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/master-discussion-thread-for-bf4-punkbuster-bans/104609/187 "2020-10-18T18:22:00Z")
It seems my ticket was submitted 8/19/2019. It’s been over a year and still no response from Even Balance. I feel robbed/cheated, needless to say I won’t ever purchase another game with Punkbuster or published by EA. ---
**Author:** ![StarscreamUK](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@StarscreamUK](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/StarscreamUK)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 4:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/master-discussion-thread-for-bf4-punkbuster-bans/104609/188 "2020-10-19T16:42:00Z")
> [@rocketrandalhood](#): > > It seems my ticket was submitted 8/19/2019. It’s been over a year and still no response from Even Balance. > > I feel robbed/cheated, needless to say I won’t ever purchase another game with Punkbuster or published by EA. Punkbuster hasnt been used in the last 2 releases. ---
**Author:** ![rocketrandalhood](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/bc8723/32.png) [@rocketrandalhood](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/rocketrandalhood)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 10:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/master-discussion-thread-for-bf4-punkbuster-bans/104609/189 "2020-10-24T22:59:00Z")
Umm… I’ll try to play again I guess… ---
**Author:** ![rocketrandalhood](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/bc8723/32.png) [@rocketrandalhood](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/rocketrandalhood)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 11:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/master-discussion-thread-for-bf4-punkbuster-bans/104609/190 "2020-10-25T23:38:00Z")
Well I went to go reinstall Battlefield 4 yesterday, it took quite a while too. It seems I still need Punkbuster because I got kicked from the first game I joined and it said I have “no packet flow.” Were you trying to convince me to buy Battlefield 1 and/or Battlefield 5 as a replacement for not being able to play 4? ---
**Author:** ![rocketrandalhood](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/bc8723/32.png) [@rocketrandalhood](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/rocketrandalhood)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 2:32am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/master-discussion-thread-for-bf4-punkbuster-bans/104609/191 "2020-10-26T02:32:00Z")
Well I reinstalled Punkbuster tonight, my game seems to be working now… ---
**Author:** ![StarscreamUK](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@StarscreamUK](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/StarscreamUK)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 7:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/master-discussion-thread-for-bf4-punkbuster-bans/104609/192 "2020-10-26T19:08:00Z")
> [@rocketrandalhood](#): > > Well I went to go reinstall Battlefield 4 yesterday, it took quite a while too. It seems I still need Punkbuster because I got kicked from the first game I joined and it said I have “no packet flow.” > > Were you trying to convince me to buy Battlefield 1 and/or Battlefield 5 as a replacement for not being able to play 4? No packet flow is a common issue, but typically people dont use battlelog so dont get to see the real error, they just get you were kicked by punkbuster from the ingame launcher ---
**Author:** ![rocketrandalhood](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/bc8723/32.png) [@rocketrandalhood](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/rocketrandalhood)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 9:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/master-discussion-thread-for-bf4-punkbuster-bans/104609/193 "2020-10-26T21:44:00Z")
Never mind, I’m still banned. I guess it took a day for Punkbuster to reissue my “Global Punkbuster GUID” ban. “GLOBAL PunkBuster GUID BAN 24f13b55” ---
**Author:** ![Tango7224](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/9dc877/32.png) [@Tango7224](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Tango7224)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 3:20am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/master-discussion-thread-for-bf4-punkbuster-bans/104609/194 "2020-11-03T03:20:00Z")
So it’s been over a month and still no reply from even balance and since I’ve been told they stopped responding to tickets last year August it seems my time in bf3 and bf4 is at a end I honestly think 81686 gamehack was triggered by people who updated game drivers of nvidia gtx If anyone with that violation can confirm it then we may prevent others from getting banned as well Violation information from [PBBans.com](http://PBBans.com): Ban Date: September 24, 2020 at 9:43:01 pm EDT PBBans Ban Link: [https://www.pbbans.com/mbi-viewban-a66f90de-vb425171.html](https://www.pbbans.com/mbi-viewban-a66f90de-vb425171.html) GUID: 508d0e8029d9869eb94e6159a66f90de Game: Battlefield 4 Violation: VIOLATION (GAMEHACK) 81686 ---
**Author:** ![ApathyOverdose](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/apathyoverdose/32/105494_2.png) [@ApathyOverdose](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ApathyOverdose)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 4:45am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/master-discussion-thread-for-bf4-punkbuster-bans/104609/195 "2020-11-03T04:45:00Z")
@Tango7224 I’m sorry to upset you, but they stopped responding to tickets much earlier, last year. In any case, if they answered, it was for one ticket out of many. Although this thread is BF4-related, it’s worth mentioning that the same thing happens with BF3. Personally, I have been banned from BF3 since July 2019, and this was the third ban. And I really hope that with the release of BF3 Remaster I will be able to play again, since I am almost sure that will be no PunkBuster there. As for the reason, the ban as a result of updating the NVidia drivers is quite possible, you are right. It’s also possible to get banned after updating the antivirus (my case). ---
**Author:** ![rocketrandalhood](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/bc8723/32.png) [@rocketrandalhood](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/rocketrandalhood)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 2:38am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/master-discussion-thread-for-bf4-punkbuster-bans/104609/196 "2020-11-08T02:38:00Z")
I have an AMD Radeon R7 370 series video card and Kaspersky Antivirus and I’m banned so I don’t think it’s an NVIDIA issue. Either way, EA won’t be receiving anymore money from me until I’m unbanned. It’s too bad too because I really want to try that new Star Wars Squadrons game but I can’t bring myself to pay for something from a publisher like EA ever again. They have not helped or supported me at all through this, everyone points the finger at EvenBalance too. It’s as if EA wants nothing to do with BF4 yet they’re still selling it online! It’s time for a game patch that removes PunkBuster. ---
**Author:** ![StarscreamUK](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@StarscreamUK](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/StarscreamUK)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 5:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/master-discussion-thread-for-bf4-punkbuster-bans/104609/197 "2020-11-08T17:00:00Z")
there are servers running without punkbuster with active admins, there is a thread with the servers ---
**Author:** ![USMCss07](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/b2d939/32.png) [@USMCss07](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/USMCss07)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 12:20am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/master-discussion-thread-for-bf4-punkbuster-bans/104609/198 "2020-11-14T00:20:00Z")
> [@StarscreamUK](#): > > there are servers running without punkbuster with active admins, there is a thread with the servers Can you please provide a link to the thread that lists servers running without punkbuster with active admins? ---
**Author:** ![Saycuh](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@Saycuh](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Saycuh)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 7:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/master-discussion-thread-for-bf4-punkbuster-bans/104609/199 "2020-11-14T07:16:00Z")
Figured I’d add my experience as I just got hit with the #81686 ban out of nowhere. 8 other bans on pbbans for #81686 between today and yesterday. Got hooked on the game a few months ago and put 130 hours in since then. Never used any third party tools/cheats. Submitted a support ticket to EvenBalance, but not expecting that to go anywhere based on other’s experiences. Programs - Nvidia Geforce experience / latest drivers, AHK (used for Path of Exile, never anything that interacted with BF4), most recent install was Project Diablo 2 last weekend. Honestly just wish I knew what triggered it because now I’m concerned something is running on my machine that shouldn’t be. Clean virus scan, no unusual processes that I could find. Violation information from [PBBans.com](http://PBBans.com): Ban Date: November 13, 2020 at 9:50:21 pm EST PBBans Ban Link: [https://www.pbbans.com/mbi-viewban-65c9d896-vb425279.html](https://www.pbbans.com/mbi-viewban-65c9d896-vb425279.html) GUID: 6b704fc9414e21fc83e2640f65c9d896 Game: Battlefield 4 Violation: VIOLATION (GAMEHACK) 81686 [https://bf4db.com/player/779226221](https://bf4db.com/player/779226221) ---
**Author:** ![StarscreamUK](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@StarscreamUK](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/StarscreamUK)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2020, 10:52am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/master-discussion-thread-for-bf4-punkbuster-bans/104609/200 "2020-11-14T10:52:00Z")
autohotkey has been a nono for punkbuster for years, although in the past it was just a kick I don’t know if that has changed to a ban however [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/master-discussion-thread-for-bf4-punkbuster-bans/104609.md?page=9) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/master-discussion-thread-for-bf4-punkbuster-bans/104609.md?page=11)