# Medic weapons are garbage. And bipoted campers, the way this game is meant to be played? \[RANT\]

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**Created:** [November 15, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/medic-weapons-are-garbage-and-bipoted-campers-the-way-this-game-is-meant-to-be-played-rant/105923 "2018-11-15T20:04:00Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 28, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/medic-weapons-are-garbage-and-bipoted-campers-the-way-this-game-is-meant-to-be-played-rant/105923/178 "2018-11-28T15:37:00Z")

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> [@Vittich](#):
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> > [@VincentNZ](#):
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> > > [@Vittich](#):
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> > > Just completed the last MP40 gold-mastery.  
> > > (which took me 4 rounds for the last 3 masteries)
> > > 
> > > The gun is just insane, the whole medic kit perfectly fits together.
> > > 
> > > Smokes, rushing in, killing your enemies with mp40 in cqc and heal yourself.
> > > 
> > > I guess many people here think too stat-wise.  
> > > Also i guess that many of you are not aiming down sight but instead using hipfire most.  
> > > (The only time i did was for the different masteries).
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> > > With the MP40 you have a brilliant way to kill almost anything - even snipers.  
> > > Just dont spam autofire and try to use the MP40 as what it is: A rather slow firing precise SMG.  
> > > In Bf4 you would have called this type Carbine 😉
> > 
> > Except that Carbines had better spread values, more damage, better damage drop-off and a better ROF. 😃
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> The medic guns are in exactly the same slot as carbines in BF4 - some of them also in the PDW category.
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> You can’t compare the spead value, damage or ROF - because if you do so you need to do this to the assault guns as well.  
> I can’t see a stg44 with 800-900rpm and 1000m range yet (compared to e.g. the AugA3). Also the spread of the assault weapons is immense too.
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> BTT: The medic guns (mostly the MP40 and the Sten) are completely viable at the moment. I am no godlike player but still the MP40 is my best gun currently even though I played the 1-5 for over 1k kills.
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> I bet many of the complainers think that SMGs are “hipfire only” and therefore upgrading the hipfire perks.
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> Try to play the MP40 or Sten as a carbine - and I bet you will love them.

The topic has been discussed to death and everybody that played all classes knows that medic class suffers… a lot!

- SMGs’ niche is up to 9m. After 9m they go from 4 BTK to 5 (same BTK as the ARs). Also, SMGs go from 5BTK to 6 at 25m while ARs only become 6BTK at 50m.
- ARs are INCREDIBLY more accurate
- ARs also happens to have SIGNIFICANT faster RoF than SMGs beside suomi and thompson
- ARs also have bigger mag capacities by default (31 vs 20) than a lot of SMGs (suomi, thompson, MP34 all only have 20 rounds)

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