# \[Megathread\] BFV and Cheating Discussion

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 25, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326 "2019-09-25T16:59:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![UnPh4ZeD](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/unph4zed/32/112863_2.png) [@UnPh4ZeD](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/UnPh4ZeD)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 5:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/201 "2019-10-15T17:25:00Z")

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I’ve been submitting video evidence in my reports and I can say that the cheaters are being banned. The turn around time isn’t ideal but it’s better than nothing. I also tweet them at Jaqub Ajmal so he can forward from his end. Having to spectate for 5 - 10 mins is annoying but so is having your game ruined everytime one of these people join.

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**Author:** ![zerweast](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/bc8723/32.png) [@zerweast](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/zerweast)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/202 "2019-10-18T18:37:00Z")

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Seriously thou, why cant BF5 stop cheaters?

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**Author:** ![warslag](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/warslag/32/101053_2.png) [@warslag](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/warslag)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 8:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/203 "2019-10-18T20:15:00Z")

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Players should be the ones who decide what defines how successful an anti-cheat really is.

1 kill using a cheat must constitute a complete failure to protect players from cheating.

Sanctions should be automatically placed on game producers where thresholds of acceptable levels of cheating are crossed.

If cheating directly results in more than 500 kills across the entire player base and all platforms then the game should be withdrawn from sale and warnings placed on it to alert customers to the failure of the game producers to protect their customers from hacking.

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**Author:** ![TheFightin](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@TheFightin](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TheFightin)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 10:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/204 "2019-10-18T22:08:00Z")

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Tried 3 different servers to play at least a full game today. Couldn’t happen. It’s travesty that this issue has been around for months, and has been completely ignored by the publisher, developer, youtubers. Then there’s moderators on here literally trolling the subject.

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**Author:** ![PL4INWALKER](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/7ab992/32.png) [@PL4INWALKER](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PL4INWALKER)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 2:30am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/205 "2019-10-19T02:30:00Z")

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This is becoming shameful. This game is ruined with all this cheating.

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**Author:** ![zerweast](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/bc8723/32.png) [@zerweast](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/zerweast)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 5:42am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/206 "2019-10-19T05:42:00Z")

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Yea, there should be a disclaimer before and during purchase. “Diminished fun experience due to cheaters on most servers” Thank you and please go to purchase screen.

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**Author:** ![STOPchris](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@STOPchris](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/STOPchris)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 10:10am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/207 "2019-10-19T10:10:00Z")

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> [@warslag](#):
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> Players should be the ones who decide what defines how successful an anti-cheat really is.
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> 1 kill using a cheat must constitute a complete failure to protect players from cheating.
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> Sanctions should be automatically placed on game producers where thresholds of acceptable levels of cheating are crossed.
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> If cheating directly results in more than 500 kills across the entire player base and all platforms then the game should be withdrawn from sale and warnings placed on it to alert customers to the failure of the game producers to protect their customers from hacking.

We for sure need some serious regulation in the gaming industry, as well as social media. These companies are pushing to not be regulated at all, but they are basically stealing millions from customers through lies.

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**Author:** ![WagaKinguCrimson](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/wagakingucrimson/32/106025_2.png) [@WagaKinguCrimson](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/WagaKinguCrimson)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 10:55am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/208 "2019-10-19T10:55:00Z")

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Trial Player here  
Just curious why the cheater problem is going so rampant on PC right now.  
Asian servers suffer the most, as almost every server I joined got at least 1 blatant hacker going full aimbot and headshotting everyone on his sight.  
Reporting doesn’t seem to work either as some hackers claim they’ve been using injection since launch and there is no ban so far.

Is Fairfight somehow currently disabled on PC?

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**Author:** ![TFBisquit](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/f07891/32.png) [@TFBisquit](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TFBisquit)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 12:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/209 "2019-10-19T12:02:00Z")

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Fairfight is an observing stats ac. So with just 3d spotting you will stay under the radar. You will just be considered a good player.  
This is how most of them do it.  
Having said that, you can follow some of those aimbotters and notice their battle reports stop on a given date. Maybe they became bored, maybe they’re banned.

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**Author:** ![EmineNc33](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/eminenc33/32/106649_2.png) [@EmineNc33](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/EmineNc33)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 1:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/210 "2019-10-19T13:26:00Z")

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I was on a hacking forum tonight reading up on what people are up to.  
this game is a laughing stock in the hacking communities, they love the fact EA insist on using fairfight, because its the easiest anti cheat system to get around.  
I spectated 4 rounds tonight and seen 2 straight out cheaters.

the sad fact is, I’ve played against some of these guys since bf3, who have been running bots since, and they still here to laugh at us and laugh at EA.  
private servers SHOULD help reduce the hacking and players who have always been that little bit too good, like it did in BF4..  
EA’s servers are disgusting, wild west out there with no law enforcement and EA couldnt care less.

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**Author:** ![TNA\_SneakyMonkey](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/54ee81/32.png) [@TNA\_SneakyMonkey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TNA_SneakyMonkey)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 1:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/211 "2019-10-19T13:28:00Z")

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I just came off a _clean_ round!

I was playing with randoms, but at least the squad leader was responsive and giving orders.

You know what? It was great fun! I didn’t do that well, but it was enjoyable - exactly the reason that I have stayed so loyal to Battlefield since BF2. With all that said, my patience is starting to wear a bit thin - EVERY other server I’ve joined today has had at least one blatant botter going at it hammer and tongs. On one server I joined, there was a scout who went 103-1. Many of the players on my friends list have stopped playing (hence the random squad mentioned above) for this reason.

Either BFV needs a properly working anti-cheat, or private games (and any RSP) simply _must_ give the community the tools to properly manage their games. Anything else will be too little too late.

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**Author:** ![NN\_Buzz12](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/7cd45c/32.png) [@NN\_Buzz12](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NN_Buzz12)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 2:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/212 "2019-10-19T14:16:00Z")

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I think private servers will only force the cheaters to be cautious. That way they can continue playing but be above average “good” players.

How can the rampant cheating not make me think otherwise?

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**Author:** ![SpoolaZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@SpoolaZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SpoolaZ)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/213 "2019-10-19T17:58:00Z")

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In terms of business, Fairfight is pretty genial, if it manages to tame the remaining rage hackers to play with more normal results like 36-6 and such. All cheaters will suddenly disappear and everyone will be happy for a cheat-free game.  
That’s how FF interprets a cheat-free game. Therefore, it should not be to difficult to make an AC program that captures the small crowd of cheaters who rage. Then they have managed to create a game that looks cheat-free at first glance, but in reality is built up by a self-deception.

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**Author:** ![PL4INWALKER](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/7ab992/32.png) [@PL4INWALKER](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PL4INWALKER)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 12:31am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/214 "2019-10-20T00:31:00Z")

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**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 12:43am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/215 "2019-10-20T00:43:00Z")

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**Author:** ![r\_aquarii](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/96bed5/32.png) [@r\_aquarii](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/r_aquarii)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 1:45am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/216 "2019-10-20T01:45:00Z")

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does EA ever ban cheater reported by player??

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**Author:** ![LEGIJAS\_YT](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/legijas_yt/32/108943_2.png) [@LEGIJAS\_YT](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LEGIJAS_YT)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 1:53am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/217 "2019-10-20T01:53:00Z")

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last times i played against so many cheaters was in Counter Strike Source. Wallhack everywhere!

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**Author:** ![Manoque77](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/b77776/32.png) [@Manoque77](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Manoque77)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 3:07am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/218 "2019-10-20T03:07:00Z")

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Today alone, I que 5 servers all of them got blatant aimbot headshot cheaters. This is in ASIA servers. 5 servers in ROW AND ALL GOT CHEATERS! Even in one of the game, not enough players, still got cheaters.

I am not sure this is just ASIA region or what. Some of these cheaters even manage to get level 70+. How is reporting working if they can get that high cheating?

Maybe Activision is paying these cheaters to ruin Asia server players experience. Guess what, it is working. With COD (poor man micro-transaction infested version of BF) coming, I’m thinking of switching just to avoid facing this day in and day out. Never played COD game and been playing BF since BF3 and this recent cheating no action feedback have taken a toll. Either put in proper anti cheat or give /voteban or /votekick. Something needs to happen.

I wish we have any form of solid feedback but alas, none so far. Well, like I said, if by the time COD comes out and we still no feedback, I probably be spending time there (I hate COD micro-transaction) just to get the hell out of this mess.

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**Author:** ![zerweast](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/bc8723/32.png) [@zerweast](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/zerweast)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 5:30am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/219 "2019-10-20T05:30:00Z")

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I reached my capitulation point too. I think cod can fill the slow shooter space nicely. I hope they pay more attention to cheaters. Even if there are less maps. The main problem here is cheaters, every server. I think BF5 looks good, but whats the point of constantly getting killed by cheater

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**Author:** ![STOPchris](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@STOPchris](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/STOPchris)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 9:03am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/megathread-bfv-and-cheating-discussion/107326/220 "2019-10-20T09:03:00Z")

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> [@SpoolaZ](#):
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> In terms of business, Fairfight is pretty genial, if it manages to tame the remaining rage hackers to play with more normal results like 36-6 and such. All cheaters will suddenly disappear and everyone will be happy for a cheat-free game.  
> That’s how FF interprets a cheat-free game. Therefore, it should not be to difficult to make an AC program that captures the small crowd of cheaters who rage. Then they have managed to create a game that looks cheat-free at first glance, but in reality is built up by a self-deception.

The thing is, this is exactly what it looks like EA was after. AND, like pretty much every attempt that EA makes to pull the wool over everyone’s eyes, the community is much smarter than EA thinks and they find out what’s going on. If EA were just honest, then there wouldn’t be as big of a problem. However, EA tries to manipulate, lie and deceive and ALWAYS get caught.

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